Lions 2013 Back row - Where Are They Now?
The fourth in a seven-part series in the run up to this summer’s selection, taking a look at the 2013 incumbents and their chances of being selected again.
Part 1: Props
Part 2: Hookers
Part 3: Locks
SAM WARBURTON
2013 tour: Openside and captain of Gatland’s Wales side, who as a result of their success in 2011-13 formed the core of the Lions, was made captain for the 2013 tour. This news was big a surprise to a couple of monks in outer Mongolia and no one else. Earned his coin with two outstanding defensive performances in the first two Tests before missing the third through injury.
Since then: It’s been something of an up and down run. Peak Warburton was doubtlessly in 2013 and he’s faced a fair bit of competition for his Wales spot from Justin Tipuric. This season has seen something of a resurgence, and a move to the blindside flank while moving on from the captaincy seems to have worked wonders.
Touring chances: 99%. Warburton is favourite to take the captaincy again despite leaving it behind for Wales. A minor injury has suspiciously ruled Warburton out for ‘six weeks’, that is ‘not playing any more until the Lions tour leaves’. Funny that.
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TOM CROFT
2013 tour: A searing winger masquaring as a flanker, Croft had a tendency for 50m tries, loitering out wide instead of hitting rucks, and just being fit to play in time for a Lions tour, which he did twice. Played in the first two tests, before Gatland settled decisevly on his pack’s strategy in the third, leaving no room for Croft.
Since then: Imagine you have a shovel. It is the most futuristic, technologically advanced shovel you have ever seen. It has neon lights down one side, can play all your music and shoots fireworks out of one end. It also has a tendency to go floppy and useless if you ever need to, y’know, dig a hole. Casual onlookers are very impressed by your shovel, but you know the real story. Eventually, you’re going to just call it a pillock and tell it to go back to Leicester and stop wasting everyone’s time. Tom Croft has only played in two Tests since the Lions tour, starting neither.
Touring chances: 2%. Still plagued by injuries, 31-year old Croft hasn’t shown any evidence of that temtping pace in the recent past either, and is not going to go on his third Lions tour.
SEAN O’BRIEN
2013 tour: One of the most exciting back rowers of the early part of the decade (and European player of the year in 2011), O’Brien played four club games before coming into the test side late on the tour.
Since then: Despite being an effective mainstay for Leinster and Ireland, that might be about to change. One or two injuries have been an issue, but for the most part O’Brien hasn’t quite hit the heights that he managed before the previous Lions tour.
Touring chances: 15%. At the time of writing, Peter O’Mahony is better than him and offers better balance in the back row. Despite Gatlandball’s peak being only four years ago, carryers like O’Brien are now looking a little old-fashioned. Just don’t ask me to say it to his face.
DAN LYDIATE
2013 tour: He had one job: Chop tackle hard and let Warburton or Alun-Wyn Jones come over the top for a turnover. He was very, very good at it and was player of the tournament for Wales in the grand slam winning campaign of 2012. Lydiate was brought in for the second and third test to lead the Lion’s defense and protect the scrum half despite there being more all-round rugby players available. In other words, Lydiate would last as long as Gatlandball and the Wales team that played it.
Since then: It hasn’t quite lasted this long. Lydiate moved to Racing Metro after his Lions success but was soon back in Wales, making increasingly sporadic appearances as Justin Tipuric and Ross Moriarty cemented international places after the 2015 world cup. He was left out of the Wales squad entirely for this years’ six nations.
Touring chances: 2%. Still there for Ospreys but the international game has changed and there’s better competition for that blindside spot. Ross Moriarty has eclipsed him through sheer performance and even he’s unlikely to fit on the plane.
JUSTIN TIPURIC
2013 tour: Did I mention Wales were good in 2013? It’s kind of a theme. Tipuric wasn’t starting for Wales but many felt he should be doing so over the Lions captain, so it’d look silly not to take him at all. Tips was just starting to turn into the all-round ball player he’s become and was a mainstay in the midweek team, before appearing as a sub in the third test.
Since then: Has gone from strength to strength, particularly in open play. 50+ caps for Wales and is the current leading champion of youtube montages. If that’s not the mark of a world class player I don’t know what is.
Touring chances: 75%. Again, lots of competition is the only thing stopping this from being a sure bet, but if Gatland wanted him in 2013 it’s hard to see him falling afoul of the big Kiwi cuboid now.
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TALUPE FALETAU
2013 tour: Played for Wales, started the third test, what else is new and I’m beginning to regret trying to summarise this for every player. He’s good. Back then he was just ‘Toby’, but like a former member of Blazin Squad, has requested the use of his real name in order to be taken more seriously.
Since then: Has been one of the few young starlets from the 2013 tour to actually follow a typical career progression. Now aged 26, and playing for a much more fashionable club since his move from Dragons to Bath, there’s a sense that he is coming into his own.
Touring chances: 75%. A few weeks ago there were questions over his fitness, but his recent performance against Leicester at Twickenham suggested that leaving him out would be as popular as leaving your dog in a hot car at the airport. The only reason it’s as low as it is here is because I can only see two spots between him, Heaslip and Billy Vunipola.
JAMIE HEASLIP
2013 tour: Ireland captain and veteran of the 2009 tour, Heaslip was expected to start all three tests. In the end he started the first two, but still went home with plenty of credit in the bank, literally as well as figuratively.
Since then: Has left the captaincy behind him but the 33 year old remains a mainstay for both club and country. Some suggest that CJ Stander could be a better number 8 for Ireland by now, but Heaslip was still there scoring the try that won the try of the year last year. Reports of his decline have been, I would suggest, greatly exaggerated.
Touring chances: 35%. Like a few of the second rows yesterday, Heaslip remains a good player but there’s just more competition now. I’d expect him to lose his place to Billy Vunipola, so he probably needs Gatland to pick a third number 8.
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It couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
25 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
13 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
25 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
13 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
80 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
2 Go to commentsSometimes people just like a moan mate!
1 Go to commentsexcellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
13 Go to comments9 Brumbies! What a joke! The best performing team in Oz! Ditch Skelton for Swain or Neville. Ryan Lonergan ahead of McDermott any day! Best selection bolter is Toole … amazing player
12 Go to commentsI like this, but ultimately rugby already has enough trophies. Trying to make more games “consequential" might prove to be a fools errand, although this is a less bad idea than some others. Minor quibble with the title of the article; it isn’t very meaningful to say the boks are the unofficial world champions when it would be functionally impossible for the Raeburn trophy not to be held by the world champions. There’s a period of a few months every 4 years when there is no “unofficial” world champion, and the Raeburn trophy is held by the actual world champions.
13 Go to commentsIts a great idea but one that I dont think will have a lot of traction. It will depend on the prestige that they each hold but if you can do that it would be great. When Japan beat the Boks (my team) I was absolutely devestated but I wont deny the great game they played that day. We were outclassed and it was one of the best games of rugby I have seen. Using an idea like this you might just give the the underdog teams more of an opportunity to beat the big teams and I can absolutely see it being a brilliant display of rugby. They beat us because they planned for that game. It was a great moment for Japan. This way we can remove the 4 year wait and give teams something to aim for outside of World Cup years.
13 Go to commentsHi, Dave here. Happy to answer questions 🥰
13 Go to commentsDon’t think that headline is accurate. It’s great to see Aus doing better but I’m not sure they’ve shown much threat to the top of the table. They shouldn’t be inflating wins against the lousy Highlanders and Crusaders either.
3 Go to commentsSuch a shame Roigard and Aumua picked up long term injuries, probably the two form players in the comp. Also, pretty sure Clarke Dermody isn’t their coach. Got it half right though.
3 Go to commentsOh the Aussie media, they never learn. At least Andrew Kellaway is like “Woah, yeah it’s great, but settle down there guys” having endured years of the Aussie media, fans, and often their players getting ahead of themselves only to fall flat on their faces. Have the “We'll win the Bledisloe for sure this year!” headlines started yet? It’s simple to see what’s going on. The Aussie teams are settled, they didn't lose any of their major players overseas. The Crusaders and Chiefs lost key experienced All Blacks, and Razor in the Crusaders case, and clearly neither are anywhere near as strong as last year (The Canes and Blues would probably be 3rd & 4th if they were). The Highlanders are annually average, even more so post-Aaron Smith and a big squad clean out. The two teams at the top? The two nz sides with largely the same settled roster as last year, except Ardie Savea for the Canes. They’ve both got far better coaches now too. If the Aussies are going to win the title, this is the year the kiwi sides will be weakest, so they better take their chance.
3 Go to commentsThe World Cup has to be the gold standard, line in the sand. 113 teams compete for what is the opportunity to make the pool stages, and then the knockout games for the trophy. The concept is sound. This must have been the rationale when the World Cup was created, surely? But I’m all for Looking forward and finding new ways for the SH to dominate the NH into the future. The autumn series needs a change up. Let’s start by having the NH teams come south every odd year for the Autumn/Spring series games?
13 Go to commentsWhat’ll happen when the AI models of the future go back in time and try to destroy the AI models of the past standing in their way of certain victory?
44 Go to commentsThanks, Nick. We (Seanny Maloney, Brett and I) just discussed Charlie as a potential Wallaby No 8, and wondered if he has truly realised how big he is in contact (and whether he can add 5 kg w/o slowing down). Your scouting report confirms our suspicions he has the materiel. No one knows if he has the mentality (as Johann van Graan said this week about CJ, Duane and Alfie B) to carry 10-15 times a game.
57 Go to commentsHe would be a great player for the Stormers, Dobbo should approach the guy.
3 Go to commentsGood article. A few years back when he was playing for the Cheetahs, he was a quiet standout for exactly the seasons stated here. I occasionally get to see his games in the UK, and he has become a more complete player and in many ways like an Irish player. His work ethic is so suitable to the Leinster game. I wonder if Rassie would have him listed somewhere.
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