Ex-Ireland player's brutal 'English rugby a right old mess' verdict
A former Ireland player has stuck the boot in on England, criticising the baffling approach being taken by Steve Borthwick’s side whom he feels were not helped last weekend by Ellis Genge’s constant whining to the referee. The English have now arrived in Dublin on the back of their humiliating 53-10 record home loss to France and no one is giving them any chance of stopping Ireland from winning the Grand Slam on Saturday.
Andy Farell’s Irish side go into the round five Guinness Six Nations match having won 21 of the last 23 games and momentum is very much with them compared to the crisis that has engulfed England, who sacked head coach Eddie Jones in December and have struggled to understand what Borthwick is attempting to do with them.
Alan Quinlan, the retired Irish back-rower, hasn’t held back in his criticism of the English in a Sports Lens blog. Asked for his verdict on England after their embarrassing loss to France, Quinlan said: “They were horrendous. I’ll tell you what English rugby is in a right old mess.
“Steve Borthwick was the one who said England weren’t very good at anything after the Scottish game. It’s probably the truth. There is no quick fix though. It does take time. It was woeful on Saturday. The biggest surprise for me was probably just the way they were outmuscled and outworked by France.
“They need to get a game plan that suits them and I’m not sure what they are trying to do from an attacking point of view. It’s all over the shop. They just could not hold on to the ball for long enough. The overall execution and strategy from England is baffling. I’m not sure they know what way they want to play.
“There is so much more to attack than the first phase and second phase. It’s getting into multi-phase and they look totally disjointed. One thing you probably wouldn’t associate with France – it’s a big change in the way they play nowadays – is the players are super fit, their work rate is immense.
“France won all the 50-50 balls, their energy to get around the park is so much quicker, speed of movement, all that kind of stuff. I just thought England were very sluggish, very blunt in their attack, and it was just badly exposed.
“There are a lot of confrontational physical players and that English side but collectively they are not working as a unit and from a skills point of view, I’m just very surprised. Their mentality is to slow the game down, kick a lot and try to out-muscle teams.
“The game has just changed so much now that you must attack and you must have the confidence and belief and then obviously you’ve got to execute it. They are still very skilful players, still very good players, but just collectively they’re not performing. Their back row was alarming the way they were beaten in the back row.”
With Farrell dropped to the bench versus the French, Genge was anointed as a first-time England skipper, but that appointment backfired with England trailing at the break by 27-3 after a first half to forget.
“Ellis Genge, who is a wonderful player, spent most of the first half complaining to the referee, even to the point that you could see in the cameras and they are walking off the pitch Ben O’Keefe was getting frustrated and a bit worn out from the questioning and whining and whinging.
“This Saturday is a pivotal moment for Genge and Kyle Sinckler. I do rate them. Genge is just a wonderful player but I’m not sure the captaincy situation helped him at all against France. He just needs to play his game, which is taking the ball on and running at people.”
So dire does Quinlan feel the England approach is, he wasn’t getting caught up in the debate surrounding Farrell and Marcus Smith. Farrell has been reinstated this week by Borthwick and will skipper England in Dublin with Smith on the replacements bench.
“Owen Farrell is starting because they need a strong mentality. He is a big game player and he is confrontational. They needed to change their back row. They needed a fetcher in there. They needed a number seven.
“They are playing three big players there, who are good runners with the ball or physical players if you run out at them. There is so much pace and tempo to the modern game, you need pace and people moving around the field.
“But really it doesn’t matter who’s playing nine and 10 if your forwards are not delivering, it’s very difficult. It doesn’t matter who you have in your backline if your forwards aren’t cohesive and getting dominance up front, which you would always expect from an English pack.”
Despite that crisis, can England somehow cause an upset against Ireland? “If England just go for it and have a bit more energy, then maybe. It’s not as if they are lacking physical players who can get themselves over the gain line, but I just feel they need more work, they need players to move quicker.
“If I was in the English dressing room this week, I’d be rubbing my hands together and say this is a real challenge. It is a challenge for them. It’s a mental challenge, a physical challenge. So much pressure on them, so much expectation.
“I would expect Ireland to win the game, but in no circumstances will I allow myself to think Ireland can win this by 20 or 30 points… Ireland are not going to blow England away; that is not going to happen in my opinion.
“England could unsettle Ireland. Of course, they can because they still are a big physical side. And they will be very disappointed with the collisions and the physical side of their game versus France and how they were out-muscled and out-matched.
“They have to prove they are not as bad a team as they showed against France but based on what we have seen there you know Ireland will win.”
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Absolutely..all they need is a chance in yhe playoffs and I bet all the other teams will be nervous…THEY KNOW HOW TO WIN IM THE PLAYOFFS..
2 Go to commentsI really hope he comes back and helps out with some coaching.
1 Go to commentsI think we are all just hoping that the Olympic 7s doesn’t suffer the same sad fate as the last RWC with the officials ruining the spectacle.
1 Go to commentsPersonally, I’ve lost the will to even be bothered about the RFU, the structure, the participants. It’s all a sham. I now simply enjoy getting a group of friends together to go and watch a few games a year in different locations (including Europe, the championship, etc). I feel extremely sorry for the real fans of these clubs who are constantly ignored by the RFU and other administrators. I feel especially sorry for the fans of clubs in the Championship who have had considerable central funding stripped away and are then expected to just take whatever the RFU put to them. Its all a sham, especially if the failed clubs are allowed to return.
9 Go to commentsI’m guessing Carl Hayman would have preferred to have stayed in NZ with benefit of hindsight. Up north there is the expectation to play twice as many games with far less ‘player management’ protocols that Paul is now criticising. Less playing through concussions means longer, healthier, careers. Carter used as the eg here by Paul, his sabbatical allowed him to play until age 37. OK its not an exact science but there is far more expectations on players who sign for Top 14 or Engl Prem clubs to get value for the huge salaries. NZR get alot wrong but keeping their best players in NZ rugby is not one of them. SA clubs are virtually devoid of their top players now, no thanks. They cant threaten the big teams in the Champions Cup, the squads have little depth. Cant see Canes/Chiefs struggling. Super has been great this year, fantastic high skill matches. Drua a fantastic addition and Jaguares will add another quality team eventually. Aus teams performing strongly and no doubt will benefit with the incentive of a Lions tour and a home RWC. Let Jordie enjoy his time with Leinster, it will allow the opportunity for another player to emerge at Canes in his absence.
5 Go to commentsLove that man, his way to despise angry little men is so funny ! 😂
4 Go to comments“South African franchises would be powerhouses if we had all our overseas based players back in situ. We would have the same unbeatable aura the Toulouses, Leinsters or Saracens of this world have had over the last decade or so.” Proof that Jake white does not understand the economics of the game in SA. Players earning abroad are not going to simply come back and represent the bulls. But they might if they have a springbok contract.
22 Go to commentsA lot of fans just joined in for the fun of it! We all admire O'Gara and what he has done for La Rochelle
4 Go to commentsThe RFU will find a way to mess this up as usual. My bet is there will be no promotion into the the Premiership, only relegation into National League One. Hopefully they won’t parachute failed clubs into the league at the expense of clubs who have battled for promotion.
9 Go to commentsWell that’s the contracts for RG and Jordie bought and paid for. Now, what are the chances we can persuade Antoine to hop over with all the extra dosh we’ll have from living at the Aviva & Croke next season…??? 🤑🤑🤑
14 Go to commentsWow, that’s incredible. Great for rugby.
14 Go to commentsYou probably read that parling is going to coach the wallaby lineout but if not before now you have.
14 Go to commentsIf someone like Leo Cullen was in O’Gara’s place I don’t hear Boo-ing. It’s not just that La Rochelle has hurt Leinster and O’Gara is their Irish boss. It’s the needle that he brings and the pantomime activity before the game around pretending that Munster were supporting LaRochelle just because O’Gara is from Cork. That’s dividing Irish provinces just to get an advantage for his French Team. He can F*ck right off with that. BOOOOO! (but not while someone is lying injured)
4 Go to commentsDid the highlanders party too hard before the game? They were the pits.
1 Go to commentsWhat a player! Not long until he’s in the England side, surely?
5 Go to commentsHe seems to have the same aura as Marcus Smith - by which I mean he’s consistently judged as if he’s several years younger than he actually is. Mngomezulu has played 24 times for the Stormers. When Pollard was his age he had played 24 times for South Africa! He has more time to develop, but he has also had time to do some developing already, and he hasn’t demonstrated nearly as much talent in that time as one would expect. If he is a generational talent, then it must be a pretty poor generation.
6 Go to commentsThe greatest Springbok coach of all time is entirely on the money. Rassie and Jacques have given the south african public a great few years, but the success of the springbok selection policy will need to be judged in light of what comes next. The poor condition that the provincial system is currently in doesn’t bode well for the next few years of international rugby, and the insane 2026 schedule that the Boks have lined up could also really harm both provincial and international consistency.
22 Go to commentsJake White is a brilliant coach and a master in the press. This is another masterclass in media relations and PR but its also a very narrow view with arguments that dont always hold water. White wants his team to win, he wants the best players in SA and wants his team competitive. You however have to face up to the reality of a poor exchange rate and big clubs with big budgets. SA Rugby cant compete and unless it can find more money SA players will keep leaving regardless of Springbok eligibility and this happened in 2015 - 2017. Also rugby is not cricket. Cricket has 3 formats and T20 cricket is where the money is at. When it comes to club vs country the IPL is king but that wont happen because the international calendar does not clash with the club calendar in rugby. So the argument about rugby going down the same path as cricket is really a non-starter
22 Go to commentsNZ rugby seem not to have learnt anything from professional rugby. Super rugby was dying and SA left before they died with the competition. SA rugby did a u turn on their approach to international players playing overseas and such players are now selected for Bok teams. As much as each country would love to retain their players playing in local competitions, this is the way the world is evolving my friends. Move with it or stay 20 years behind the times. One more thing. NZ rugby hierarchy think they are the big cheese. Take a more humble approach guys. You do not seem to have your players best interests at heart.
5 Go to commentsBeaches? In Cardiff? Where?
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