Dylan Hartley's reign as England captain could be about to end
After a busy international summer that saw England take a largely developmental squad down to Argentina and record a 2-0 series victory, as well as 15 prominent players play vital roles in the British and Irish Lions’ series draw in New Zealand, the England captaincy is once again up for debate.
Head coach Eddie Jones was impressed by Jamie George’s role as a starter for the Lions in all three of their Tests and he has admitted that the England captaincy is a “series by series appointment” and that current incumbent Dylan Hartley is well-aware of that.
When the players rendezvous for a short training camp in Oxford later this month, Hartley, barring any unforeseen circumstances, will retain the captaincy. That said, Jones has also been clear that he is watching players’ form post-Lions and that no one’s spot in the team is safe, including that of his captain.
No one ever said coaching was easy
Speaking at Soccerex, the Australian was, however, effusive with praise for Hartley and the role he has had as captain over the last two years.
“He is a lunatic, but a nice lunatic. Nice lunatics are good to run a team. He’s not the greatest player in the world, but he leads by example.”
“He knows the value of how hard he has to work and because he leads like that it sets a great example for the rest of the team.”
And why wouldn’t Jones be happy with what he has seen from Hartley?
Since the New Zealand-born hooker’s appointment as captain, he has started 20 of England’s 21 games, leading the side to 19 victories in those 20 matches. The only match he has missed was the uncapped game against the Barbarians earlier this year.
Over that period, Hartley’s performances at international level have been good and his captaincy has been exemplary, making him a strong candidate to not only retain the captaincy for the upcoming Oxford training camp, but also for the Autumn series against Argentina, Australia and Samoa.
George is pushing hard for his spot in the XV, however, and it is far from a certainty that Hartley will have the two jersey come November. If that does become a reality, Hartley’s leadership around the squad will still be invaluable, but Jones and England will need to look at an alternative captain for the starting XV, with Hartley potentially continuing in a role akin to that of a club captain.
The most obvious replacement would seem to be Owen Farrell.
He, along with Billy Vunipola, has been a vice captain throughout Jones’ tenure, he is the demonstrative leader that many coaches love in the captaincy role and he is as close to a guaranteed starter as England have. He is currently being managed back into regular action following the Lions tour, sitting out Saracens’ season-opening win over Northampton but coming off the bench in their round two loss to Bath.
Would Farrell be next-man-up for England?
Vunipola is another option and, after having the summer off to have a persistent shoulder issue operated on, will be as fresh as anyone coming into the international window. The opportunity to hit the ground running and not have any kind of Lions or international hangover will do his prospects no harm at all, with the powerful ball-carrier targeting a return to club action in the next 2-3 weeks.
Two further players who Jones has trusted with leadership roles are George Ford and Chris Robshaw, with the pair being named co-captains for England’s match with the Barbarians.
Robshaw obviously comes with plenty of captaincy experience, having led England 42 times previously, whilst Ford captained England at U20 level and was appointed vice captain in Argentina, with Farrell away with the Lions. Mike Brown and Danny Care joined Ford as vice captains on that tour.
One player who has yet to be given an official leadership position by Jones, but who has consistently shown himself to be both a passionate and cerebral leader of men, is Maro Itoje.
The former England U20 captain has been tipped as a future England and Lions captain by all and sundry, so could this be his opportunity to take the reins for the first time at senior level?
Well, he’s achieved almost everything else already
His youth and enthusiasm may work against him, but like Farrell, he is as close to a guaranteed starter as you are going to get in the current England team.
The irony is that, with the possible exception of the New Zealand captain, no captaincy in Test rugby gets debated and analysed as much as the England position, yet Jones’ continual selection of multiple vice captains and natural leaders throughout his squads mean that there is a much larger support network for the England captain on the pitch than many of his opponents have the luxury of.
Given the form England have been in under Hartley, it is understandable to be reluctant to want to change his role.
As the mantra goes, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
But international rugby isn’t always about being broken or working, it is about striving to be the best possible team that you can be and the form that George has shown over the last couple of seasons is getting harder and harder to ignore.
Jones has that Oxford training camp and seven weeks of club rugby to make a decision over his starting hooker and for everyone bar Hartley and George – and possibly Luke Cowan-Dickie and Jack Singleton – it is going to be a joy to watch.
Hartley laid down the gauntlet with arguably his best club showing in the past two seasons against Leicester Tigers on Saturday, putting in an all-action performance and clearly relishing his re-appointment as Northampton captain. It is now George’s turn, who is still yet to be integrated back into club rugby following his summer exploits, to respond.
If poor club form was affecting Hartley’s stock last season, he rectified that on Saturday
We are heading into the final half of the current Rugby World Cup cycle and the decisions made now will shape how teams perform in Japan in two years’ time.
England have the leadership and captaincy prospects to make a change if they believe it will make them a better team, but equally, Hartley has done nothing to warrant losing the position he has occupied for the past two seasons.
These are the decisions that separate the great coaches from the good coaches and all eyes will be on Jones, Hartley and George over the next two months.
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It couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
25 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
13 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
25 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
13 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
77 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
2 Go to commentsSometimes people just like a moan mate!
1 Go to commentsexcellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
13 Go to comments9 Brumbies! What a joke! The best performing team in Oz! Ditch Skelton for Swain or Neville. Ryan Lonergan ahead of McDermott any day! Best selection bolter is Toole … amazing player
12 Go to commentsI like this, but ultimately rugby already has enough trophies. Trying to make more games “consequential" might prove to be a fools errand, although this is a less bad idea than some others. Minor quibble with the title of the article; it isn’t very meaningful to say the boks are the unofficial world champions when it would be functionally impossible for the Raeburn trophy not to be held by the world champions. There’s a period of a few months every 4 years when there is no “unofficial” world champion, and the Raeburn trophy is held by the actual world champions.
13 Go to commentsIts a great idea but one that I dont think will have a lot of traction. It will depend on the prestige that they each hold but if you can do that it would be great. When Japan beat the Boks (my team) I was absolutely devestated but I wont deny the great game they played that day. We were outclassed and it was one of the best games of rugby I have seen. Using an idea like this you might just give the the underdog teams more of an opportunity to beat the big teams and I can absolutely see it being a brilliant display of rugby. They beat us because they planned for that game. It was a great moment for Japan. This way we can remove the 4 year wait and give teams something to aim for outside of World Cup years.
13 Go to commentsHi, Dave here. Happy to answer questions 🥰
13 Go to commentsDon’t think that headline is accurate. It’s great to see Aus doing better but I’m not sure they’ve shown much threat to the top of the table. They shouldn’t be inflating wins against the lousy Highlanders and Crusaders either.
3 Go to commentsSuch a shame Roigard and Aumua picked up long term injuries, probably the two form players in the comp. Also, pretty sure Clarke Dermody isn’t their coach. Got it half right though.
3 Go to commentsOh the Aussie media, they never learn. At least Andrew Kellaway is like “Woah, yeah it’s great, but settle down there guys” having endured years of the Aussie media, fans, and often their players getting ahead of themselves only to fall flat on their faces. Have the “We'll win the Bledisloe for sure this year!” headlines started yet? It’s simple to see what’s going on. The Aussie teams are settled, they didn't lose any of their major players overseas. The Crusaders and Chiefs lost key experienced All Blacks, and Razor in the Crusaders case, and clearly neither are anywhere near as strong as last year (The Canes and Blues would probably be 3rd & 4th if they were). The Highlanders are annually average, even more so post-Aaron Smith and a big squad clean out. The two teams at the top? The two nz sides with largely the same settled roster as last year, except Ardie Savea for the Canes. They’ve both got far better coaches now too. If the Aussies are going to win the title, this is the year the kiwi sides will be weakest, so they better take their chance.
3 Go to commentsThe World Cup has to be the gold standard, line in the sand. 113 teams compete for what is the opportunity to make the pool stages, and then the knockout games for the trophy. The concept is sound. This must have been the rationale when the World Cup was created, surely? But I’m all for Looking forward and finding new ways for the SH to dominate the NH into the future. The autumn series needs a change up. Let’s start by having the NH teams come south every odd year for the Autumn/Spring series games?
13 Go to commentsWhat’ll happen when the AI models of the future go back in time and try to destroy the AI models of the past standing in their way of certain victory?
44 Go to commentsThanks, Nick. We (Seanny Maloney, Brett and I) just discussed Charlie as a potential Wallaby No 8, and wondered if he has truly realised how big he is in contact (and whether he can add 5 kg w/o slowing down). Your scouting report confirms our suspicions he has the materiel. No one knows if he has the mentality (as Johann van Graan said this week about CJ, Duane and Alfie B) to carry 10-15 times a game.
57 Go to commentsHe would be a great player for the Stormers, Dobbo should approach the guy.
3 Go to commentsGood article. A few years back when he was playing for the Cheetahs, he was a quiet standout for exactly the seasons stated here. I occasionally get to see his games in the UK, and he has become a more complete player and in many ways like an Irish player. His work ethic is so suitable to the Leinster game. I wonder if Rassie would have him listed somewhere.
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