'I want to play when I’m ready, rather than chucked in when I’m unprepared or undeserving.'
“I want to play when I’m ready, rather than being chucked in when I’m unprepared or undeserving.”
Patience is a virtue that can be hard to find in young athletes, but it is something which is helping budding Saracens back-rower Andy Christie prepare for what he hopes will be a long career at Allianz Park and in professional rugby.
A product of Harrow School, Christie graduated from Saracens’ junior academy to their senior set-up at the beginning of the 2017/18 season, before spending the majority of that campaign at Old Albanians, turning out 14 times in National League 1 and picking up two tries in the process.
With teammate Nick Isiekwe making an impact immediately out of school for Saracens’ senior side, as well as similar stories for players such as Marcus Smith and Tom and Ben Curry, a feeling of frustration could be understandable, but when looking back on his debut season, there is a sense of contentment around Christie.
“I think it went pretty well. You have that first year to get used to the professional environment and, really, you’re just trying to establish yourself with the rest of the squad.”
“You’re in the academy, obviously, but you’re all part of the same squad in the bigger picture and you’re just getting used to that lifestyle, because it’s something that’s so different to what you’ve been accustomed to. Ultimately, I made improvements where I wanted to, and I made progress on where I want to get to eventually, although I’m still a long way off.”
One thing that certainly helped Christie acclimatise to that new challenge was the time he spent at Harrow, a school renowned for producing top Gallagher Premiership and international rugby players, not least so Christie’s teammate, Billy Vunipola.
“I think Harrow helped me immensely. They constantly posed me challenges and I was thrown in with a lot of new people, like Sean [Reffell], Reuben [Bird-Tulloch] and Elliot [Obatoyinbo]. Getting to know them and being in with a lot of class players in that age-group was brilliant and now we have the likes of Manu Vunipola at Sarries, too.
“I think going to Harrow, for me, was a great move. It gave me the tools I needed to get a professional contract. I just think all the extra stuff Harrow offers and the opportunities I was blessed to have, I really just can’t recommend it enough.”
His time at the school certainly helped Christie make an impression in junior rugby and saw him represent England U18s after a switch from the Scottish Exiles program at the U16 level. It paved the way to a professional contract with Saracens and a rather unique opportunity this past summer.
“I got the call from Mike [Hynard, Saracens’ academy manager] and as soon as he mentioned it, I jumped at it.”
Instead of spending his summer lounging on a beach somewhere, Christie and his club teammate Obatoyinbo were making a concerted effort to improve as rugby players. They headed down to Wellington in New Zealand, to spend several weeks embedded in Mitre 10 Cup side’s academy and play some first team rugby in the local club leagues, which Christie describes as being at “Championship or high National League 1 level”.
“The club came with the offer to me and Elliot and they thought given the amount we’d developed in the past season – we obviously both still have a bit of a way to go – and the fact that we’d had a couple of injury issues, that it would be a great opportunity for us to have a bit of a freedom, play some rugby and develop over there. There’s not really any place better in the world to do that than New Zealand.”
During his stay, Christie turned out several times for Petone in the Wellington Premiership, a club that has produced a number of prominent players over the years, such as Tana Umaga, Andy Leslie, Neemia Tialata and even former England international Riki Flutey.
It’s fair to say it was a valuable learning experience on the field.
“It’s so unstructured. In the UK we have plans to dictate the first few phases but over there, they just don’t. They’re not going to give you detailed instructions as to what to do. They’ll give you the basic structure, but then it’s just, basically, play what you see. Having a taste of that was great. Whilst I was there, I played against a couple of the Super Rugby lads and they just came in and tore up playing like that. It’s so ingrained at every level out there.”
The learning wasn’t just limited to his time on the pitch, either, as Christie experienced a whole new kind of rugby culture off of it, too.
“It’s just so different. To start, we were in the gym at 6:30 in the morning, which is ridiculous [laughs]. Obviously, at Saracens you’re in for a full day when you’re training. You’re doing gym, units and rugby training, but over at Wellington you get in and do the gym and that’s kind of it. Elliot and I had skills sessions with Rodney So’oialo and Cory Jane but even that would finish at about 10:30am.”
“The other lads would go straight from the gym to jobs or university. It’s so different to over here, where you go from school to professional contracts. They tend to play for their local first team and then try and earn a place at Wellington, which will get them a contract.”
“It definitely opened my eyes to how fortunate we are. I was waking up at 5:30, because I had a bit of a journey into the club, trying to squeeze in a bit of food, which isn’t fun at that time of day, then as soon as we were done, we would walk into town and get a meal.”
“At Saracens, there’s always someone there to help you, but in New Zealand, it’s more about taking control of yourself.”
When pushed for one aspect of the experience that he found particularly beneficial during his time in New Zealand, Christie’s answer was emphatic.
“Rodney So’oialo. He was unbelievable. For me personally, who better is there to learn from than someone who won 62 caps in the back-row for the All Blacks? He made the experience.”
“He taught me so much, on all aspects of the game, but if I had to pick one area where I felt he made the most impact, it would have to be the work he did with me at the breakdown. He taught me how it’s not always about playing the ball, but also playing the body position of the opposing player. He showed me that if I’m going to have to lean over to get the ball, I’m probably going to struggle to stay on my feet and in that instance it’s better to control the body of the opposing player by turning him and slowing down their ball.”
“It was things like that, that seem so obvious, but until it’s said to you, it’s not necessarily something you think about.”
“He’s done things like jiu-jitsu, too, and that’s kind of opened my eyes in terms of thinking outside of rugby as to how to improve. In Wellington, they had us going down to the dojo for fitness and doing some karate.”
“He blew my mind, he was unbelievable. If there was one thing I could have brought back from New Zealand, it would have been him!”
The time Christie spent in New Zealand meant that he missed a lot of Saracens’ preseason, but that hasn’t dampened his hopes for the coming season, especially with the extra experience he has picked up in the process.
“This season I need to get my contract renewed and I’ve got another year of U20s eligibility, so I want to keep improving and make those both realistic goals. Everyone at Saracens just wants to play for the club. It doesn’t have to be for the first team, but I want to play with that Saracens shirt on, whether it’s with the first team or in the Premiership Cup and Shield competitions.”
With such a star-studded array of players in the senior side, Saracens have an impressive ability to retain their academy talent and it’s that belief in the pathway that keeps young players like Christie focused, determined and capable of achieving the goal of eventually forcing their way into senior contention.
That said, trying to dethrone the likes of Vunipola, Mike Rhodes and Jackson Wray would be a daunting task for any player, but Christie is insistent that you can’t look at it in that way.
“You’ve just got to learn from them.”
“For example, today I went over my Storm game [vs Richmond, preseason friendly] with Billy [Vunipola] and straightaway I was learning things. You can’t look at them as being an obstacle.”
“Another example today was Faz [Owen Farrell] helping me with how we run our plays off of 10 and things like that. There are so many people to learn from and there’s so much knowledge in the club.”
“Obviously, being a young player means you want to make that step up at some point, but it’s about preparing for it and being ready to take it.”
With Isiekwe, Rhodes and Vunipola all in the mix for England this season, Christie’s patience and determination to be prepared for any opportunity that comes his way could be about to pay off.
“We have so many players that go away on international duty that it’s just about being ready. We have great coaches and we know they’re going to make the right decision about when we should step up, so it’s just about having faith in them, too. Not everyone can be making an impact at 19 like Nick [Isiekwe] did, but if you look at Jamie George, he bided his time, broke through a little later and then went straight from Saracens to the British and Irish Lions.”
“I think if you can make it at Saracens, you can make at it any club.”
It’s hard to disagree with that statement given the success the club have had in recent years, not only in terms of winning titles, but also producing homegrown talent from their own academy, many of whom not only go on to form an integral part of the senior Saracens side, but also take up key roles in the England squad.
If every player coming through at Saracens is tackling their development with the same level-headedness and commitment that Christie is, the signs are ominous for any club looking to knock Saracens off their perch at the summit of English rugby.
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Great insight into the performance culture with Sarries and I predict Christie will be a fixture in the Scotland team now for some time to come. However, he is slightly missing his own point around Scotland “being soft” when he cites physicality examples in defence of that slight. The issue is much closer to the example he referenced around feeling off before a game but being told “it doesn’t matter, you can still play well” by Farrell. Until Scotland can get their psyche in that square, they will carry on folding under extreme pressure…
1 Go to comments> We are having to adapt, evolve and innovate more than when we were in Super Rugby where there was only really one style that everybody had to play to gain the most success. Have = able to? Interesting what that one style might be? I thought SA sides still had bad tours now, or at least bad schedule, months away? Those extra few hours flights have to be a killer though, no surprise to see their sides doing so badly at the start of the season each year. I wouldn’t enjoy that unfairness as a supporter.
4 Go to commentsThe problem for NZ, and Aus, is they ripped up the SR model and lost a massive chunk of revenue that hasn’t been replaced. Don’t forget SA clubs went North because they were left with no choice, Argy unceremoniously binned and Japan cast adrift. Now SR wasn’t perfect, far from it, but they’ve jumped into something without an effective plan, so far, to replace what they’ve lost. The biggest revenue potential now lies in Japan but it won’t be easy or quick to unlock, they are incredibly insular in culture as a nation. In the meantime, there is a serious time bomb sitting under SH rugby and if it happens then the current financial challenges will look like a picnic. IF the Boks follow their provincial teams and head north then it’s revenue meltdown. Not guaranteed to happen but the status quo is a very odd hybrid, with the Boks pointing one way and the clubs pointing the other way. And for as long as that remains then the threat is real.
35 Go to commentsI think Etene has had some good tuition, likely while at the Warriors to be a professional that helped his rugby jump, but he was certainly thrown in the deep end way too early. Should have arguably 20 less SR caps, and therefor a way better record that he does at his age, but his development would have been fast tracked by the need to satiate his signing away from league. Again, credit to him and others that he has done it so well. Easy to fall over under that pressure in the big leagues like that but he kept at it when I myself wasn’t sure he was good enough.
1 Go to commentsAwesome story. I wonder what a bigger American (SA) scene might have mean for Brex.
1 Go to comments“Johnny McNicholl and the Crusaders” save a Penney. Who has been in camp this week and showed them how to play?
5 Go to commentsSo, reports of the Crusaders’ demise / terminal decline are perhaps just - slightly - premature/exaggerated…? 🤔 Will we see a deep-dive into that by the estimable Rugbypass scribes, and maybe one or two mea culpas? Thought not.
5 Go to comments1. The Chiefs are rudderless without DMac, which enhances his AB chances 2. Chiefs pack are powderpuffs. The hard men arent there anymore 3. They had their golden title chance last yr and wont threaten this yr. Gone in second round of playoffs.
5 Go to commentsHonestly, why did you have to publish such a foolish article the day they play us? 😂
35 Go to comments> They are not standalone entities. They are linked to an amateur association which holds the FFR licence that allows the professional side to compete in the league. That’s a great rule. This looks like the chicken or egg professional scenario. How long is it going to be before the club can break even (if that is even a thing in French rugby)? If the locals aren’t into well it would be good to se them drop to amateur level (is it that far?). Hope they can reset from this level and be more practical, there will be a time when they can rebuild (if France has there setup right).
1 Go to commentsWhat about changing the ball? To something heavier and more pointed that bounces unpredictably. Not this almost round football used these days.
35 Go to commentsThis is the problem with conservative mindsets and phycology, and homogenous sports, everybody wants to be the same, use the i-win template. Athlete wise everyone has to have muscles and work at the gym to make themselves more likely to hold on that one tackle. Do those players even wonder if they are now more likely to be tackled by that player as a result of there “work”? Really though, too many questions, Jake. Is it better Jake? Yes, because you still have that rugby of ole that you talk about. Is it at the highest International level anymore? No, but you go to your club or checkout your representative side and still engage with that ‘beautiful game’. Could you also have a bit of that at the top if coaches encouraged there team to play and incentivized players like Damian McKenzie and Ange Capuozzo? Of course we could. Sadly Rugby doesn’t, or didn’t, really know what direction to go when professionalism came. Things like the state of northern pitches didn’t help. Over the last two or three decades I feel like I’ve been fortunate to have all that Jake wants. There was International quality Super Rugby to adore, then the next level below I could watch club mates, pulling 9 to 5s, take on the countries best in representative rugby. Rugby played with flair and not too much riding on the consequences. It was beautiful. That largely still exists today, but with the world of rugby not quite getting things right, the picture is now being painted in NZ that that level of rugby is not required in the “pathway” to Super Rugby or All Black rugby. You might wonder if NZR is right and the pathway shouldn’t include the ‘amateur’, but let me tell you, even though the NPC might be made up of people still having to pull 9-5s, we know these people still have dreams to get out of that, and aren’t likely to give them. They will be lost. That will put a real strain on the concept of whether “visceral thrill, derring-do and joyful abandon” type rugby will remain under the professional level here in NZ. I think at some point that can be eroded as well. If only wanting the best athlete’s at the top level wasn’t enough to lose that, shutting off the next group, or level, or rugby players from easy access to express and showcase themselves certainly will. That all comes back around to the same question of professionalism in rugby and whether it got things right, and rugby is better now. Maybe the answer is turning into a “no”?
35 Go to commentsWow, didn’t realise there was such apathy to URC in SA, or by Champions Cup teams. Just read Nick’s article on Crusaders, are Sharks a similar circumstance? I think SA rugby has been far more balanced than NZs, no?
3 Go to commentsBut here in Australia we were told Penney was another gun kiwi coach, for the Tahs…….and yet again it turned out the kiwi coach was completely useless. Another con job on Australian rugby. As was Robbie Deans, as was Dave Rennie. Both coaches dumped from NZ and promoted to Australia as our saviour. And the Tahs lap them up knowing they are second rate and knowing that under pressure when their short comings are exposed in Australia as well, that they will fall in below the largest most powerful province and choose second rate Tah players to save their jobs. As they do and exactly as Joe Schmidt will do. Gauranteed. Schmidt was dumped by NZ too. That’s why he went overseas. That why kiwi coaches take jobs in Australia, to try and prove they are not as bad as NZ thought they were. Then when they get found out they try and ingratiate themselves to NZ again by dragging Australian teams down with ridiculous selections and game plans. NZ rugby’s biggest problem is that it can’t yet transition from MCaw Cheatism. They just don’t know how to try and win on your merits. It is still always a contest to see how much cheating you can get away with. Without a cheating genius like McCaw, they are struggling. This I think is why my wise old mate in NZ thinks Robertson will struggle. The Crusaders are the nursery of McCaw Cheatism. Sean Fitzpatrick was probably the father of it. Robertson doesn’t know anything else but other countries have worked it out.
35 Go to commentsIt could be coincidental or prescient that the All Blacks most dominant period under Steve Hansen was when the Crusaders had their least successful period under Todd Blackadder and then the positions reversed when Razor took over the Crusaders.
35 Go to commentsDefinitely sound read everybodyexpects immediate results these days, I don't think any team would travel well at all having lost three of the most important game changers in the game,compiled with the massive injury list they are now carrying, good to see a different more in depth perspective of a coaches history.
3 Go to commentsSinckler is a really big loss for English rugby.
2 Go to commentsThanks Nick The loss of players to OS, injury and retirement is certainly not helping the Crusaders. Ditto the coach. IMO Penny is there to hold the fort and cop the flak until new players and a new coach come through,…and that's understood and accepted by Penny and the Crusaders hierarchy. I think though that what is happening with the Crusaders is an indicator of what is happening with the other NZ SRP teams…..and the other SRP teams for that matter. Not enough money. The money has come via the SR competition and it’s not there anymore. It's in France, Japan and England. Unless or until something is done to make SR more SELLABLE to the NZ/Australia Rugby market AND the world rugby market the $s to keep both the very best players and the next rung down won't be there. They will play away from NZ more and more. I think though that NZ will continue to produce the players and the coaches of sufficient strength for NZ to have the capacity to stay at the top. Whether they do stay at the top as an international team will depend upon whether the money flowing to SRP is somehow restored, or NZ teams play in the Japan comp, or NZ opts to pick from anywhere. As a follower of many sports I’d have to say that the organisation and promotion of Super Rugby has been for the last 20 years closest to the worst I’ve ever seen. This hasn't necessarily been caused by NZ, but it’s happened. Perhaps it can be fixed, perhaps not. The Crusaders are I think a symptom of this, not the cause
35 Go to commentsNo way. If you are trying to picture New Zealand rugby with an All Blacks mindset, there have been two factors instrumental to the decline of NZ rugby to date. Those are the horror that the Blues have become and, probably more so, the fixture that the Crusaders became. I don’t think it was healthy to have one team so dominant for so long, both for lack of proper representation of players from outside that environment and on the over reliance on players from within it. If you are another international side, like Ireland for example, sure. You can copy paste something succinct from one level to the next and experience a huge increase in standards, but ultimately you will not be maximizing it, which is what you need to perform to the level the ABs do. Added to that is the apathy that develops in the whole game as a result of one sides dominance. NZ, Super, and Championship rugby should all experience a boom as a result of things balancing out. That said, there is a lot of bad news happening in NZ rugby recently, and I’m not sure the game can be handled well enough here to postpone the always-there feeling of inevitable decline of rugby.
35 Go to commentsNo SA supporter miss Super Rugby - a product that is experiencing significant head wind in ANZ - the competition from rival codes are intense, match attendance figures are at a historical low and the negativity of commentators such as Kirwan and Wilson have accelerated the downward spiral in NZ. After the next RWC in 2027 sponsors will follow Qantas and start leaving in droves.
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