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'A really important skill to train': Why Proudfoot mirrors Jones by also coaching elsewhere
England assistant Matt Proudfoot has stressed the importance of being able to coach elsewhere outside of the dozen or so weeks he annually spends working with the Eddie Jones-led national team. Jones has come in for criticism in recent times for flying to Japan to do some additional coaching, but that didn’t persuade him to stop and he has since revealed he spent a day at Leicester last week.
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“I spent the day up there with him [Steve Borthwick]. Managed to do a little bit of coaching. I know I am not supposed to coach another team so I apologise now, I apologise for coaching another team but I was able to do a little bit of practice there and it was good,” said Jones about his midweek Premiership club coaching visit.
It followed on from Jones’ insistence the previous week about how he needed to experience other environments. “I’m a coach, I have got to practise coaching. If you are a golfer you play golf, if you’re a coach you coach and I only get twelve weeks a year to coach with England so I have got to use my time in between to practise coaching and find better ways to coach.”
It’s something that current England assistant Proudfoot agrees with. Asked by RugbyPass what he does in the weeks when he is not working with the national team he joined after helping the Springboks to win the 2019 World Cup, he said: “I spend time with the U20s. I went up to the camp at Loughborough.
“It’s really important for an international coach that you get to do that. It’s not just the detail that you are coaching but it is your eye, you see the detail you coach, and then the ability to interact with different players, learn new skills and communicating. It’s about personal relationships and how you communicate with people. That is a really important skill to train.”
Rob Baxter reckoned last Thursday it would be "pretty difficult" for Jones to practise coaching at a Premiership club but that is what the England boss has done this week https://t.co/OoGPEjNpkq
— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) June 10, 2021
Asked for an example of this hands-on detail which he alluded to, Proudfoot continued: “So particularly the scrum you could be focusing on the bind for an example and if you haven’t coached in a long time you might look at the outcome and not what the key coaching point of it, what is the key coaching parts, so how early you must bind.
“If you forget to do the coaching of it, it’s like running through a checklist of a manual. You are automatically looking at what is the outcome so when you want to correct a problem you are trying to create the outcome without going through the process, so that is an important aspect to keep yourself active. When you are watching on TV it is not the same as coaching.”
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Unlike in England where regular coaching at club teams by national team coaches doesn’t really happen, Proudfoot added the set-up was very different when he worked in South Africa as club coaching figured in his weekly schedule outside of his Springboks duties.
“The South African environment, you were associated with two franchises so you had to visit franchises on a Tuesday and I built up relationships up with those coaches that I would coach the scrum, giving myself the opportunity to do that, and then I was also responsible for the Varsity Cups, so I would go to the Varsity Cup teams and assist there which was great. Being a professional coach you want to coach, you don’t want to sit behind a laptop.”
The 26-year-old is currently the most senior player in Eddie Jones’ summer series squad due to his haul of 28 England capshttps://t.co/MP229ltck0
— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) June 16, 2021
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2 Go to commentsOh dear, bones too suspect to continue?
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1 Go to commentsI think Matt Proctor became a 1 test AB in the same fixture. Cameron is quality and has been great this season, can’t believe’s he only 27. Realistically how would he not be selected for ABs squad this year. Only Dmac is ahead of him as a specialist 10. With Jordan out, it will come down to where and when Beauden Barrett slots back in, and where they want to play Ruben Love. Cameron seems an absolute lock in for the wider squad though. Added benefit of TJ-Cameron-Jordie combination at 9, 10, 11 too.
1 Go to commentsFarcical, to what end would someone want to pay to keep this thing going.
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61 Go to commentsWe had during the week twilight footy, twilight cricket, tw golf plus there was the athletics club. Then the weekend was rugby 15s plus the net ball, really busy club scene back then but so much has changed and rugby has suffered. And it was all about changing lifestyles.
6 Go to commentsIn the 70s and 80s my club ran 5 Senior sides plus a Vets. Now it is 2 sides with an occasional 3rd team. Players have difficulty getting to training now, not sure why and the commitment is not there. It seems to me more a problem of people applying themselves and not expecting to turn up and play whenever they want to.
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8 Go to commentsNo Islam says it must rule where it stands Thus it is to be deleted from this planet Earth
18 Go to commentsThis team probably does not beat the ABs sadly Not sure if BPA will be available given his signing for Force but has to enter consideration. Very strong possibility of getting schooled by the AB props. Advantage AB. Rodda/Skelton would be a tasty locking combination - would love to see how they get on. Advantage Wallabies. Backrow a risk of getting out hustled and outmuscled by ABs. Will be interesting to see if the Blues feast on the Reds this weekend the way they did the Brumbies we are in big trouble at the breakdown. Great energy, running and defence but goalkicking/general kicking/passing quality in the halves bothers me enormously. SA may have won the World Cup for a lot of the tournament without a recognised goalkicker but Pollard in the final made a difference IMO. Injuries and retirements leave AB stocks a bit lighter but still stronger. 12 and 13 ABs shade it (Barret > Paisami, Ione = Ikitau, arguably) Interesting clash of styles on the wings - Corey Toole running around Caleb Clark and Caleb running over the top of Toole. Reece vs Koro probably the reverse. Pretty even IMO. 15s Kelleway = Love See advantage to ABs man for man, but we are not obviously getting slaughtered anywhere which makes a nice change. Think talent wise we are pretty even and if our cohesion and teamwork is better than the ABs then its just about doable.
11 Go to commentsCompletely agree. More friday night games would be a hit. RFU to make sure every club has a floodlit pitch. Club opens again Saturday to welcome touch / tag. Minis and youths on Sunday
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56 Go to commentsThe value he brought to the crusaders as an assistant was equal to what he got out of being there. He reflected not only on the team culture but also the credit he attributed to the rugby community. Such experience shouldn’t be overlooked.
8 Go to commentsGood luck Aussie
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61 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
2 Go to commentsDon’t disagree with much of this but it appears you forgot Rodda and Beale, who started at the Force on the weekend.
11 Go to commentsExcept for the injured Zach Gallagher this would be Saders best forward pack for the season. Blackadder needs to stay at 7, for all of Christies tackling he is not dominant and offers very little else. McNicholfullback is maybe a good option, Fihaki not really upto it, there was a reason Burke played there last year. Maybe Havilli to 2nd five McLeod to wing. Need a strong winger on 1 side to compliment Reece
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