Panther power puts odds in NSW Blues' favour
If history is anything to go by, the benefit of having six Penrith players running out together in State of Origin will benefit NSW.
Call it intuition, call it combinations or just call it a mental edge.
Whatever it is, the numbers show that when Penrith’s six State of Origin stars run out together on Wednesday night, the odds will favour NSW.
Of the past six times NSW have picked at least half a dozen players from the one club for a State of Origin game dating back to 1985, the Blues have won five of those games.
Queensland’s most recent era of success was also built on club combinations, with Melbourne players often dominating the spine and key positions.
For NSW, such club combinations have been rare in recent seasons.
Penrith are the first NRL team since St George Illawarra in 2011 to field six or more players in a NSW side, with the Dragons having seven Blues for Game I that year.
Like the Panthers, the Dragons of 2011 were into their third straight big year and were sitting at 11-1 in their premiership defence before entering camp.
“It definitely helped me because it was my first Origin series,” Dragons half Jamie Soward told AAP.
“Having so many Dragons guys, it took the pressure off everyone else to accept me.
“The other guys who didn’t know me had probably formed opinions.
“People would say I was soft and only kicked, and all that. So to have guys in the team who trusted me forced other guys to trust me.”
Soward’s 2011 team did not lift the Origin shield, with coach Ricky Stuart playing five Dragons in Game II and four in Game III.
But after the dominant Queensland team had torn NSW apart between 2007 and 2010, they did go some way to putting the Blues back in Origin reckoning with a win in Sydney forcing a decider.
“I just remember going in there with a team that had finished minor premiers twice, won a comp,” Soward said.
“And we had eight guys there who knew how to win in those big games.
“Gaz (Mark Gasnier) and Beau (Scott) had been there before, but the familiarity around how I played as a playmaker definitely helped me.
“Penrith will have that with the way they’ve played the last couple of years.
“They have the best halfback in the world (in Nathan Cleary), one of the world’s best five-eighths (in Jarome Luai) and the best lock in the world (with Isaah Yeo).
Defence also looms as one of NSW’s biggest advantages.
Cameron Smith told Sydney radio on Monday of how Queensland had spent early days in their Game I camp working out their defensive structures.
NSW have had it far easier in that facet, with the Panthers who regularly defend together at club level complementing 13 players backing up from last series under Brad Fittler.
It was another thing Soward did not take for granted in 2011.
“I had Beau (Scott) who was looking after me at the Dragons, so it was a plug-and-play situation with those guys,” Soward said.
“We had a combination straight away defensively which is important. And they had GI (Greg Inglis) and (Billy) Slater swinging around the back.”
Stuart’s thinking in 2011 was no doubt borne out of his own career.
He spent the majority of his Origin days playing alongside Laurie Daley in the halves, with fellow Raiders Brad Clyde and Glenn Lazarus in the middle.
It was a time when NSW enjoyed their most success in Origin, thriving off the Canberra club combination and stability around the selections.
“When I played with Loz, I knew where he would be,” Stuart said.
“I didn’t have to hear him. “Instinctively we knew one another’s games and he knew what my role was at the ruck and he knew what he had to do outside the football to receive it.
“That comes through repetitive practice and muscle memory. That’s the beauty of picking players whose combination becomes instinctive.”
Penrith players are also well aware of the upside.
Think Yeo in the middle, linking with Cleary and Luai on the edges or going short to Liam Martin.
Or the combination Cleary already has with Martin when he comes on the field, together with Luai having regularly played and defended next to Stephen Crichton and Brian To’o.
“It’s nice, you don’t have to worry about building relationships there,” Yeo said.
“We have been building them over the past five or six years, so that is pretty cool.
“You know how each player gets the ball, you know how they like it.
“Having played so much footy together, I think it helps in games like this. It is so helter-skelter, so fast, you can’t hear yourself think.
“That’s where I feel like that helps.”
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smith at 9 / mounga 10 / laumape 12 / fainganuku 14
37 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
2 Go to commentsDon’t disagree with much of this but it appears you forgot Rodda and Beale, who started at the Force on the weekend.
9 Go to commentsExcept for the injured Zach Gallagher this would be Saders best forward pack for the season. Blackadder needs to stay at 7, for all of Christies tackling he is not dominant and offers very little else. McNicholfullback is maybe a good option, Fihaki not really upto it, there was a reason Burke played there last year. Maybe Havilli to 2nd five McLeod to wing. Need a strong winger on 1 side to compliment Reece
1 Go to commentsTo me TJ is clearly the best 9 in the competition right now but he's also a proven player off the bench, there's few playmaking players who can come off the bench as calm and settled as he is, Beauden can, TJ can and I doubt any of the scrumhalves in contention can, if they want to experiment with new 9s I want him on the bench ready to step in if they crumble under the pressure. The Boks put their best front row on the bench, I'd like to see us take a similar approach, the Hurricanes have been doing similar things with players like Kirifi.
37 Go to commentsROG has better chance to win a WC if he starts training and make himself eligible as a player. He won’t make the Ireland squad but I reckon he may get close with Namibia (needs to improve his Afrikaans) or Portugal. Both sides had 1000:1 odds to win the RWC in 2023 which is an improvement on ROG’s odds of winning a RWC as a coach. Unlike Top 14 teams, national teams can’t go shopping and buy the best players - you work with the available talent pool and turn them into world beaters.
2 Go to commentsthat backline nope that backline is terrible why would you have sevu Reece when he’s not even top 5 wingers in the comp why have Blackadder when there’s better players no Scott barret isn’t an automatic the guy is more of a liability than anything why have him there when you have samipeni who’s far far better
37 Go to commentsAh, good to find you Nick. Agree with everything about Cale. So much to like about his game
49 Go to commentsNot too bad. Questions at 6, lock and HB for me. The ABs will be a lot stronger once Jordan and Roigard return. Also, work needs to be made to secure Frizzell back for next season and maybe also Mo’unga; they’re just wasting time playing in japan
37 Go to commentsOn the title, i wonder for many of those people it is a case something like a belief in working smarter, not harder?
1 Go to commentsForget Sotutu. One of those whose top level is Super Rugby. Id take a punt on Wallace Sititi Finau ahead of Glass body Blackadder.
37 Go to commentsI’m a pensioner so I've been around a bit. My opinion of SBW is he is an elite athlete and a great New Zealander and roll model. He has been to the top and knows what he's talking about. To all the negative comments regarding SBW the typical New Zealand way, cut that tall poppy down.
17 Go to commentsI'm not listening to a guy moralise over others when this is the guy who walked out mid season on Canterbury RLFC when he had a contract with them, what a hypocrite. All the Kiwis sticking up for this unprincipled individual because they can't accept justified criticism, he has zero credibility or integrity. Those praising him are a joke.
17 Go to commentsI’d put Finau at 6 instead of Blackadder but that’s the only change I’d make. Can’t wait to see who Razor picks.
37 Go to commentsTamati Williams, Codie Taylor, and Same Cane? Not sure about Hoskins Sotutu at test level. Wasn’t that impressive last season. Need a balance between experience and talent/youth.
37 Go to commentsInteresting insight. Fantastic athlete, and a genuine human being.
17 Go to commentsThey played at night in Suva last weekend and it’s an afternoon game forecast for 19 degrees in Canberra this weekend. Heat change is a non issue.
2 Go to commentsWishing Rosie a speedy recovery
1 Go to commentsObscene that SA haven’t been knocking
1 Go to commentsChances of Blackadder being injured seem too high to give him serious consideration. ABs loosie combination finally looked good with 2 committed to tackling and clearing rucks in the centre and Ardie roaming. Hoskins/Ardie together would force one of them into where they don’t excel and don’t get to use their talent, or require a change in tactics. If we continue to evolve last years systems I would take Papali’i and Finau at 6 and 7 (conceding that Blackadder will be injured) and Ardie at 8.
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