'We've seen the Springboks slip up against Japan': Tonga should be considered a serious threat
After the recent naming of Tonga’s squad for the Pacific Nations Cup, the strength of their squad is obvious with a number of ex-international players now available.
The squad features former All Blacks and Wallabies in Malakai Fekitoa, Charles Piutau, Augustine Pulu, and Israel Folau as well as the possible inclusion of George Moala and forwards Vaea Fifita, Adam Coleman and Sekope Kepu come November.
Speaking on the Aotearoa Rugby Podcast, Crusaders halfback Bryn Hall and former All Black hooker James Parsons shared their views on the Tongan side and the likely strengths and deficiencies for the upcoming Pacific Nations Cup and Rugby World Cup.
Tonga has been drawn in Pool B along side South Africa, Ireland, and Scotland for next year’s World Cup in France.
“It won’t be easy but the pressure is not on them,” Parsons said of their World Cup draw.
“We’ve seen the Springboks slip up against Japan before, Ireland have had moments as well and they’ve just got nothing to lose.
“They’ve got time together now. This is not just going to be a short lead in, they’ve got a good year to embed some systems and processes.
“Tonga aren’t going to be easy to dominate physically, so they’ll have to come up with a different style or they just go head-to-head and the best man wins out of those collisions.”
Speaking about those that have switched allegiances, Parsons explained how much Tonga will benefit from the experience they are bringing in.
“They really want to be there; they have wanted to be there for a number of years,” Parsons said.
“Now they have the opportunity they will want to make every post a winner. They are now a serious threat. It’s not just the skill set of those players.
“The IP [intellectual property] they have got from the years of high performance environments they have been in, and their ability to up skill those around them and help the coaches in terms of systems and game plans.
“There is just so much to like and get excited about…This just adds more energy to our game, it’s exactly what we need.”
However, with such a great roster there still remains some weaknesses. Crusaders halfback Bryn Hall questioned whether the side possessed the right players to manage the game effectively in the big test matches.
“I think the game management is going to be a big part of that. I don’t know which direction they will go [playing either William Havili, or James Faiva],” Hall said.
“I think [William Havili] having time with Tasman and then being able to play in key games and see decision making with Mitch Hunt, being able to see what that looks like.
“Being with Moana Pasifika and learning from the likes of Christian Lealiifano for the whole year will be invaluable for him to go on that tour.
“If they play too much, what’s plan B? Are they going to be able to have the kicking game?
“Augustine Pulu will be massive for them. Sonatane Takulua is there, who has been a stalwart of Tongan rugby. Having that one-two punch is going to be great for them and they have great decision makers around that.
“Again, it’s just being able to be real smart, game management wise.
“You have guys like Charlie Piutau, George Moala who have been in those big games and experiences being able to give that to the likes of Fine Inisi, who’s a young player in that team.
“Physicality wise they are always there or thereabouts, they will bring that, they always bring that as a Tongan team. But it’s those game management skills. They have got enough players there now that can really understand that and hopefully get the best out of that moving forward.”
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Super rugby is struggling but that has little to do with sabbaticals. 1. Too many teams from Aust and NZ - should be 3 and 4 respectively, add in 2 from Japan, 1 possibly 2 from Argentina. 2. Inconsistent and poor refereeing, admittedly not restricted to Super rugby. Only one team was reffed at the breakdown in Reds v H’Landers match. Scrum penalty awarded in Canes v Drua when No 8 had the ball in the open with little defence nearby - ideal opportunity to play advantage. Coming back to Reds match - same scrum situation but ref played advantage - Landers made 10 yards and were penalised at the breakdown when the ref should have returned to scrum penalty. 3. Marketing is weak and losing ground to AFL and NRL. Playing 2 days compared with 4. 4. Scheduling is unattractive to family attendance. Have any franchises heard of Sundays 2pm?
8 Go to commentsAbsolutely..all they need is a chance in yhe playoffs and I bet all the other teams will be nervous…THEY KNOW HOW TO WIN IM THE PLAYOFFS..
2 Go to commentsI really hope he comes back and helps out with some coaching.
1 Go to commentsI think we are all just hoping that the Olympic 7s doesn’t suffer the same sad fate as the last RWC with the officials ruining the spectacle.
1 Go to commentsPersonally, I’ve lost the will to even be bothered about the RFU, the structure, the participants. It’s all a sham. I now simply enjoy getting a group of friends together to go and watch a few games a year in different locations (including Europe, the championship, etc). I feel extremely sorry for the real fans of these clubs who are constantly ignored by the RFU and other administrators. I feel especially sorry for the fans of clubs in the Championship who have had considerable central funding stripped away and are then expected to just take whatever the RFU put to them. Its all a sham, especially if the failed clubs are allowed to return.
9 Go to commentsI’m guessing Carl Hayman would have preferred to have stayed in NZ with benefit of hindsight. Up north there is the expectation to play twice as many games with far less ‘player management’ protocols that Paul is now criticising. Less playing through concussions means longer, healthier, careers. Carter used as the eg here by Paul, his sabbatical allowed him to play until age 37. OK its not an exact science but there is far more expectations on players who sign for Top 14 or Engl Prem clubs to get value for the huge salaries. NZR get alot wrong but keeping their best players in NZ rugby is not one of them. SA clubs are virtually devoid of their top players now, no thanks. They cant threaten the big teams in the Champions Cup, the squads have little depth. Cant see Canes/Chiefs struggling. Super has been great this year, fantastic high skill matches. Drua a fantastic addition and Jaguares will add another quality team eventually. Aus teams performing strongly and no doubt will benefit with the incentive of a Lions tour and a home RWC. Let Jordie enjoy his time with Leinster, it will allow the opportunity for another player to emerge at Canes in his absence.
8 Go to commentsLove that man, his way to despise angry little men is so funny ! 😂
4 Go to comments“South African franchises would be powerhouses if we had all our overseas based players back in situ. We would have the same unbeatable aura the Toulouses, Leinsters or Saracens of this world have had over the last decade or so.” Proof that Jake white does not understand the economics of the game in SA. Players earning abroad are not going to simply come back and represent the bulls. But they might if they have a springbok contract.
22 Go to commentsA lot of fans just joined in for the fun of it! We all admire O'Gara and what he has done for La Rochelle
4 Go to commentsThe RFU will find a way to mess this up as usual. My bet is there will be no promotion into the the Premiership, only relegation into National League One. Hopefully they won’t parachute failed clubs into the league at the expense of clubs who have battled for promotion.
9 Go to commentsWell that’s the contracts for RG and Jordie bought and paid for. Now, what are the chances we can persuade Antoine to hop over with all the extra dosh we’ll have from living at the Aviva & Croke next season…??? 🤑🤑🤑
14 Go to commentsWow, that’s incredible. Great for rugby.
14 Go to commentsYou probably read that parling is going to coach the wallaby lineout but if not before now you have.
14 Go to commentsIf someone like Leo Cullen was in O’Gara’s place I don’t hear Boo-ing. It’s not just that La Rochelle has hurt Leinster and O’Gara is their Irish boss. It’s the needle that he brings and the pantomime activity before the game around pretending that Munster were supporting LaRochelle just because O’Gara is from Cork. That’s dividing Irish provinces just to get an advantage for his French Team. He can F*ck right off with that. BOOOOO! (but not while someone is lying injured)
4 Go to commentsDid the highlanders party too hard before the game? They were the pits.
1 Go to commentsWhat a player! Not long until he’s in the England side, surely?
5 Go to commentsHe seems to have the same aura as Marcus Smith - by which I mean he’s consistently judged as if he’s several years younger than he actually is. Mngomezulu has played 24 times for the Stormers. When Pollard was his age he had played 24 times for South Africa! He has more time to develop, but he has also had time to do some developing already, and he hasn’t demonstrated nearly as much talent in that time as one would expect. If he is a generational talent, then it must be a pretty poor generation.
6 Go to commentsThe greatest Springbok coach of all time is entirely on the money. Rassie and Jacques have given the south african public a great few years, but the success of the springbok selection policy will need to be judged in light of what comes next. The poor condition that the provincial system is currently in doesn’t bode well for the next few years of international rugby, and the insane 2026 schedule that the Boks have lined up could also really harm both provincial and international consistency.
22 Go to commentsJake White is a brilliant coach and a master in the press. This is another masterclass in media relations and PR but its also a very narrow view with arguments that dont always hold water. White wants his team to win, he wants the best players in SA and wants his team competitive. You however have to face up to the reality of a poor exchange rate and big clubs with big budgets. SA Rugby cant compete and unless it can find more money SA players will keep leaving regardless of Springbok eligibility and this happened in 2015 - 2017. Also rugby is not cricket. Cricket has 3 formats and T20 cricket is where the money is at. When it comes to club vs country the IPL is king but that wont happen because the international calendar does not clash with the club calendar in rugby. So the argument about rugby going down the same path as cricket is really a non-starter
22 Go to commentsNZ rugby seem not to have learnt anything from professional rugby. Super rugby was dying and SA left before they died with the competition. SA rugby did a u turn on their approach to international players playing overseas and such players are now selected for Bok teams. As much as each country would love to retain their players playing in local competitions, this is the way the world is evolving my friends. Move with it or stay 20 years behind the times. One more thing. NZ rugby hierarchy think they are the big cheese. Take a more humble approach guys. You do not seem to have your players best interests at heart.
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