The position that Eddie Jones forgot to select?
Eddie Jones has named his 34-man England squad for the upcoming Six Nations, and, as expected, there has been a significant overhaul of players.
While it may not be on the same level of France’s mass influx of 19 uncapped players, Jones has still picked eight new faces, while dropping ten players that were part of the Rugby World Cup squad.
While this squad has largely been based on form, with 16 players coming from Exeter Chiefs, Northampton Saints and Saracens, the three Champions Cup quarter-finalists, there are questions being raised about one position.
Billy Vunipola’s broken arm on Sunday would have thrown Jones’ selection policy into disarray, as the Saracen would have undoubtedly been picked and probably would have played every match.
Just like he did in the RWC, the Australian may have opted to forgo another No8 specialist in the squad for this Six Nations. However, with his injury, the question has been posed by England fans “Who is playing 8?”
https://twitter.com/CallumCouch/status/1219228688421720064?s=20
I would have picked at least one Number 8 personally.
— Tiny “Boop Squig” Shorterly (@AvOpJGA) January 20, 2020
Vunipola’s uncapped Saracens teammate Ben Earl seems the likely candidate now to start in the eight shirt come the Six Nations, and the 22-year-old deserves to after the season he has had so far. But only Northampton Saints’ Lewis Ludlam is a contender to play at the back of the scrum, although he is more comfortable as a flanker. Both these two would probably have been in the England squad prior to the 51-cap No8’s injury, raising questions as to who has actually replaced him in the squad.
What is most surprising to many about this back row selection is the wealth of in-form No8s England have at their disposal. Harlequins’ Alex Dombrandt and Exeter’s Sam Simmonds both looked to be shoe-ins to make the squad, while Bristol Bears’ Nathan Hughes and Northampton’s Teimana Harrison were also contenders for recalls. The fact that none of these players made the squad, particularly given Vunipola’s injury, seems to be the most surprising selection call of all.
https://twitter.com/HadleyTRavenall/status/1219229266489106432?s=20
https://twitter.com/BJeffrey_/status/1219228900053671944?s=20
How has Sam Simmonds not been picked
— Matt (@MatthewJHolmes) January 20, 2020
Both Dombrandt and Hughes would provide the weight and ballast England are possibly lacking at the moment, although the explosive Earl could provide England’s pack with unparalleled dynamism. He could become the newest addition to the ‘Kamikazee Kids’, alongside Tom Curry and Sam Underhill on either flank.
https://twitter.com/stoffason/status/1219230639809015808?s=20
Where is an 8?…….Dombrandt next cab off the rank surely?
— Lee Garner (@LeeGarn95261232) January 20, 2020
Then again, if Jones is looking to play at the intensity and power that blew the All Blacks away at the RWC, then Simmonds would be a prime candidate to feature, as he has already displayed his searing pace before in an England shirt.
https://twitter.com/cole_elz/status/1219231733880688640?s=20
https://twitter.com/TAGorman89/status/1219232168221839360?s=20
Can’t believe no @samsimmonds_ he been on fire this season or drombrant bit worried who will play at number 8
— Rob smith (@robchiefs4life) January 20, 2020
Earl looks like he will be a key player in the new four-year cycle ahead of the 2023 RWC, and he will thrive behind a strong English pack in the same way he does with Saracens, but there are some huge calls in the back row in this new-look England.
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This is short sighted from Clayton if you ask me, smacks of too much preseason planning and no adaptability. What if DMac is out for a must win match, are they still only going to bring their best first five and playmaker on late in the game? Trusting the game to someone who wasn’t even part of planning (they would have had Trask pinned in as Jacomb preseason). Perhaps if the Crusaders were better they would not have done this, but either way imo you take this opportunity to play a guy you might need starting in a final rather than having their 12th game getting comfortable coming off the bench.
1 Go to commentsThanks Brett.. At last a positive article on the potential of Wallaby candidates, great to read. Schmidt’s record as an international rugby coach speaks for itself, I’m somewhat confident he will turn the Wallaby’s fortunes around …. on the field. It will be up to others to steady the ship off the paddock. But is there a flaw in my optimism? We have known all along that Australia has the players to be very competitive with their international rivals. We know that because everyone keeps telling us. So why the poor results? A question that requires a definitive answer before the turn around can occur. Joe Schmidt signed on for 2 years, time to encompass the Lions tour of 2025. By all accounts he puts family first and that’s fair enough, but I would wager that his 2 year contract will be extended if the next 18 months or so shows the statement “Australia has the players” proves to be correct. The new coach does not have a lot of time to meld together an outfit that will be competitive in the Rugby Championship - it will be interesting to see what happens. It will be interesting to see what happens with Giteau law, the new Wallaby coach has already verbalised that he would to prefer to select from those who play their rugby in Australia. His first test in charge is in July just over 3 months away .. not a long time. I for one wish him well .. heaven knows Australia needs some positive vibes.
21 Go to commentsWhat a load of bollocks. The author has forgotten to mention the fact that the Crusaders have a huge injury toll with top world class players out. Not to mention the fact that they are obviously in a transition period. No this will not spark a slow death for NZ rugby, but it does mean there will be a new Super Rugby champion. Anyone who knows anything about NZ rugby knows that there is some serious talent here, it just isn’t all at the Crusaders.
1 Go to commentsI wouldn’t spend the time on Nawaqanitawase! No point in having him filling in a jersey when he’s committed to leave Union. Give the jersey to a young prospect who will be here in the future.
4 Go to commentsIt was a pleasure to watch those guys playing with such confidence. That trio can all be infuriating for different reasons and I can see why Jones might have decided against them. No way to justify leaving Ikitau out though. Jorgensen and him were both scheduled to return at the same time. Only one of them plays for Randwick and has a dad who is great mates with the national coach though.
53 Go to commentsBrayden Iose and Peter Lakai are very exciting Super Rugby players but are too short and too light to ever be a Test 8 vs South Africa, France, Ireland, and England, Lakai could potentially be a Test player at 7 if he is allowed to focus on 7 for Hurricanes.
7 Go to commentsPencils “Thomas du Toit” into possible 2027 Bok squad.
1 Go to commentsDon’t see why Harrison makes the bench. Jones can play at 10 if needed, and there is a good case for starting her there to begin with if testing combinations. That would leave room for Sing on the bench
1 Go to commentsWhat a load of old bull!
1 Go to commentsOf the rugby I’ve born witness to in my lifetime - 1990 to date - I recognize great players throughout those years. But I have no doubt the game and the players are on average better today. So I doubt going back further is going to prove me wrong. The technical components of the game, set pieces, scrums, kicks, kicks at goal. And in general tactics employed are far more efficient, accurate and polished. Professional athletes that have invested countless hours on being accurate. There is one nation though that may be fairly competitive in any era - and that for me is the all blacks. And New Zealand players in general. NZ produces startling athletes who have fantastic ball skills. And then the odd phenomenon like Brooke. Lomu. Mcaw. Carter. Better than comparing players and teams across eras - I’ve often had this thought - that it would be very interesting to have a version of the game that is closer to its original form. What would the game look like today if the rules were rolled back. Not rules that promote safety obviously - but rules like: - a try being worth 1 point and conversion 2 points. Hence the term “try”. Earning a try at goals. Would we see more attacking play? - no lifting in the lineouts. - rucks and break down laws in general. They looked like wrestling matches in bygone eras. I wonder what a game applying 1995 rules would look like with modern players. It may be a daft exercise, but it would make for an interesting spectacle celebrating “purer” forms of the game that roll back the rules dramatically by a few versions. Would we come to learn that some of the rules/combinations of the rules we see today have actually made the game less attractive? I’d love to see an exhibition match like that.
29 Go to commentsIrish Rugby CEO be texting Andy Farrell “Andy, i found our next Kiwi Irishman”
5 Go to commentsI certainly don’t miss drinking beers at 8am in the morning watching rugby games being played in NZ.
1 Go to commentsThis looks like a damage limitation exercise for Wales, keeping back some of their more effective players for the last 20/25 minutes to try and counter England’s fresh legs so the Red Roses don’t rack up a big score.
1 Go to commentsVery unlikely the Bulls will beat Leinster in Dublin. It would be different in Pretoria.
1 Go to commentsI think it is a dangerous path to go down to ban a player for the same period that a player they injured takes to recover. Players would be afraid to tackle anyone. I once tackled my best friend at school in a practice match and sprained his ankle. I paid for it by having to play fly-half instead of full-back for the rest of that season’s fixtures.
5 Go to commentsJust such a genuine good bloke…and probably the best all round player in his generation. Good guys do come first sometimes and he handled the W.Cup loss with great attitude.
2 Go to commentsWord in France is that he’s on the radar of a few Top14 clubs.
5 Go to commentsGet blocking Travis, this guy has styles and he’s gonna make a swift impact…!
1 Go to commentsWhat remorse? She claimed that her dangerous tackle wasn’t worthy of a red! She should be compensating the injured player for loss of earnings at the minimum. Her ban should include the recovery time of the injured player as well as the paltry 3 match ban.
5 Go to commentsArdie is a legend. Finished and klaar. Two things: “Yeah, yeah, I have had a few conversations with Razor just around feedback on my game and what I am doing well, what I need to improve on or work-ons. It’s kind of been minimal, mate, but it’s all that I need over here in terms of how to be better, how to get better and what I am doing well.” I hope he’s downplaying it - and that it’s not that “minimal”. The amount of communication and behind the scenes preparation the Bok coaches put into players - Rassie and co would be all over Ardie and being clear on what is expected of him. This stands out for me as something teams should really be looking at in terms of the boks success from a coaching point of view. And was surprised by the comment - “minimal”. In terms of the “debate” around Ireland and South Africa. Nice one Ardie. Indeed. There’s no debate.
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