The most obvious call to replace Vunipola at No.8
Since making his England debut in 2013, Billy Vunipola has gone on to become one of the most pivotal players in the side, with the team’s fortunes often waxing and waning on the form and presence of the sizeable No 8.
For much of that period, England have lacked physical ball-carriers, particularly in their pack, and Vunipola was the much-needed source of front-foot ball that allowed England to up the tempo and ensure their playmakers exceled.
His deputy was Bristol Bears star Nathan Hughes for a time, although the Fijian-born back rower has since seemingly fallen out of favour with England head coach Eddie Jones, and despite toying with a couple of Ben Morgan and Zach Mercer call-ups and an appearance or two for Mark Wilson at the position, an alternative to Vunipola has not been found.
The size that Jones covets at the position is no secret and perhaps explains why Sam Simmonds continues to miss out on selection, but it doesn’t help explain the omissions of Alex Dombrandt or Teimana Harrison, especially with Vunipola now sidelined with a broken arm.
Dombrandt was exceptional for Harlequins in the 2018/19 season in what was a breakout campaign for the 22-year-old, whilst Harrison’s physicality with the ball in hand has been a big component of Northampton Saints’ rise back to prominence in the Gallagher Premiership. With neither included in England’s Guinness Six Nations squad, Jones is heading into the tournament without a designated No 8.
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He has options, though, with Lewis Ludlam, Ted Hill and Ben Earl featuring alongside the ‘Kamikaze Twins’, Sam Underhill and Tom Curry. None of that trio are a like-for-like replacement for Vunipola, although they do each offer a physical presence with ball in hand.
Perhaps the most obvious call is for Ludlam to start at No 8, with the Northampton back rower having been part of the group for the past year and the violence of his ball-carrying has proven to be a very valuable attribute for England, albeit with that impact coming off the bench more often than not during the recent Rugby World Cup. He works well alongside Curry and Underhill, adds further to their breakdown skill and even adds a mobility that Vunipola doesn’t.
Then there’s Earl, whose form for Saracens so far this season has been overwhelming. With their internationals being managed back into action and the salary cap furore of their own making that has surrounded them, Earl has stood tall and been counted on the pitch. Whether used as a flanker or at the base of the scrum, Earl’s ability to make tacklers miss and break arm tackles has seen him rampage through Premiership defences of late.
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The final option among the remaining back rows would be to move Hill into No 8 – or have him on the blindside and switch Curry to eight. Hill certainly ticks the physical box and he has previously played at lock and No 8 during his time in the Worcester Warriors academy and international age-grade sides. If you subscribe to the old school stereotypes of the respective back row positions, blindside is his true home, with the versatile loose forward a destructive tackler and a scything presence at attacking breakdowns.
Moving Courtney Lawes to six has also been mooted, with the lock certainly possessing the trust of Jones in the back row, especially with two mobile contact area specialists like Underhill and Curry prowling alongside him. At this point, Lawes or Ludlam would seem like the safest options for Jones, with both having been a part of this group at the Rugby World Cup and complemented the other players in the starting pack.
In previous seasons, this would have been a real cause for concern for England and Jones. Vunipola had become so vital to the team, Hughes’ club form didn’t quite translate to the international arena and with that lack of front-foot ball that would be able to be generated, a midfield loaded with the likes of Owen Farrell, George Ford, Jonathan Joseph and Henry Slade would look a lot less effective.
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This isn’t the England of previous seasons, though.
If you use the team’s highly successful Rugby World Cup last year as an example, England are no longer a side that has to rely on just one or two heavy ball-carriers to shoulder the gain-line burden. Jamie George and Kyle Sinckler have joined Mako Vunipola in the front row, with all three capable of providing go forward in the loose, Maro Itoje has regained the comfort with ball in hand that he had in age-grade rugby and both Curry and Underhill chip in significantly, too. Manu Tuilagi is back in the midfield also, providing England with a means over getting over the gain-line further from the ruck on slow ball.
The younger Vunipola’s impact at the Rugby World Cup shouldn’t be overlooked. He generated that quick ball and one or two metre gains close to the ruck and that was important, although it was also a tournament where he was considerably off of his best. Yet England still prospered all the way until the final.
It’s a shame that we do not get to see how Dombrandt would fare at international level or that the silky evasion skills of Simmonds are not put to the test, but this is an England team that is built to survive the loss of Vunipola, something that simply wasn’t true in seasons past.
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That said, identifying a player that can deputise for and eventually compete with Vunipola is important for Jones and England. They won’t always be able to rely on a pack that is as influential in the loose, particularly with the ball in hand, as the current one is.
Maybe in the coming years that is Dombrandt. It’s almost certain that Jones will have had a word with the Harlequin and told him what he needs to work on in order to be involved in the future. Simmonds might be out of luck under Jones and have to hope for the next England coach to have a different set of desired skills in their ideal No 8, whilst Mercer will be an interesting one to watch when he returns from injury. The Bath man has added weight and yet he still remains as dynamic in the loose as he has always been.
Earl and Ludlam move around the back row at club level, but they could both potentially be viewed as long term eights at international level, or could Curry be that option, with Hill taking on more responsibilities on the blindside?
Further down the English rugby pyramid there are prospects such as Tom Willis, Izaiha Moore-Aino, Rus Tuima, Nahum Merigan and Jack Clement, the latter quartet of whom are a few years away from that conversation at the moment, whilst Andy Christie and Sam Moore are two players in need of more playing time to push their development on.
Whatever way Jones goes at the position over the next two months, it will certainly be one of the more talked about selection decisions in the build-up to the France game and beyond. The England squad is certainly in a better place to deal with it now than it was previously, although establishing some international experience in the nation’s other No 8 options wouldn’t go amiss for Jones.
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Well where do you start, the fact that England have a professional domestic league and Ireland’s is fully amatuer, that they have fully seperated professional squads at Fifteens and Sevens (7’s thinly disguised as GB), and Ireland have fully pro Sevens squad who loan some players back to the Semi-Professional Fifteens squad (moved from amateur for only a year or so) for a few games at 6N & RWC’s. The Women’s games is a shambles, and is at risk of killing itself by pushing for professionalism when the market isn’t really there to support it outside one or two countnries..
2 Go to commentsWayne Smith's input didn't have as much impact on the last final as Davison's red card for Thompson. England were 14 points up and flying when that happened.
2 Go to commentsBilly's been playing consistently well for 2 - 3 seasons now and deserves a look in at the top level. Ioane and ALB are still first choice but there needs to be injury cover and succession. His partnership with Jordie gives him first dibs you'd think. Go the Hurricanes.
3 Go to commentsIt’s not up to Wales to support Georgian Rugby. That’s up to International Rugby and Georgia. I sympathise with Georgia’s decent attempt to create this fixture. But for Wales the proposed match up is just a potential stick to beat them with and a potential big psychological blow that young Welsh team doesn’t need. (I’m Irish BTW.)
2 Go to commentsCale certainly looks great in space, but as you say, he has struggled in contact. At 23 years old, turning 24 this year, he should be close to full physical maturity and yet there exists a considerable gap in the power and physicality required for international rugby. Weight doesn’t automatically equate to power and physicality either. Can he go from a player who’s being physically dominated in Super rugby to physically dominating in international rugby in 1 or 2 years? That’s a big ask but he may end up being a late bloomer.
28 Go to commentsIf rugby wants to remain interesting in the AI era then it will need to work on changing the rules. AI will reduce the tactical advantage of smart game plans, will neutralize primary attacking weapons, and will move rugby from a being a game of inches to a game of millimetres. It will be about sheer athleticism and technique,about avoiding mistakes, and about referees. Many fans will find that boring. The answer is to add creative degrees of freedom to the game. The 50-22 is an example. But we can have fun inventing others, like the right to add more players for X minutes per game, or the equivalent of the 2-point conversion in American football, the ability to call a 12-player scrum, etc. Not saying these are great ideas, but making the point that the more of these alternatives you allow, the less AI will be able to lock down high-probability strategies. This is not because AI does not have the compute power, but because it has more choices and has less data, or less-specific data. That will take time and debate, but big, positive and immediate impact could be in the area of ref/TMO assistance. The technology is easily good enough today to detect forward passes, not-straight lineouts, offside at breakdown/scrum/lineout, obstruction, early/late tackles, and a lot of other things. WR should be ultra aggressive in doing this, as it will really help in an area in which the game is really struggling. In the long run there needs to be substantial creativity applied to the rules. Without that AI (along with all of the pro innovations) will turn rugby into a bash fest.
24 Go to commentsSouth Africa rarely play Ireland and France on these tours. Mostly, England, Scotland and Wales. I wonder why
2 Go to commentsIt was a let’s-see-what-you're-made-of type of a game. The Bulls do look good when the opposition allows them to, but Munster shut them down, and they could not find a way through. Jake should be very worried about their chances in the competition.
2 Go to commentsHats off to Fabian for a very impressive journey to date. Is it as ‘uniquely unlikely’ as Rugby Pass suggests, given Anton Segner’s journey at the Blues?
1 Go to commentsSad that this was not confirmed. When administrators talk about expanding the game they evidently don’t include pathways to the top tier of rugby for teams outside of the old boys club. Rugby deserves better, and certainly Georgia does.
2 Go to commentsLions might take him on if they move on Van Rooyen but I doubt he will want to go back, might consider it a step backwards for himself. Sharks would take him on but if Plumtree goes on to win the challenge cup they will keep him on. Also sharks showing some promising signs recently. Stormers and Bulls are stable and Springboks are already filled up. Quality coach though, interesting to see where he ends up
1 Go to commentsAnd the person responsible for creating a culture of accountability is?
3 Go to commentsMore useless words from Ben Smith -Please get another team to write about. SA really dont need your input, it suck anyway.
264 Go to commentsThis disgraceful episode must result in management and coach team sackings. A new manager with worse results than previous and the coaching staff need to coached. Awful massacre led by donkeys.
1 Go to commentsInteresting article with one glaring mistake. This sentence: “And between the top four nations right now, Ireland, France, South Africa, and New Zealand…” should read: And between the top four nations right now, South Africa, Ireland, New Zealand and France…”. Get it right wistful thinkers, its not that hard.
24 Go to commentsHow did Penny get the gig anyway?
3 Go to commentsNice write up Nick and I would have agreed a week ago. However as you would know Cale & co got absolutely monstered by the Blues back row of Sotutu, Ioane and Papaliti and not all of these 3 are guaranteed a start in the Black jumper. He may need to put some kgs before stepping up, Spring tour? After the week end Joe will be a bit more restless. Will need to pick a mobile tough pack for Wales and hope England does the right thing and bashes the ABs. I like your last paragraph but I would bring Swinton, Hannigan into the 6 role and Bobby V to 8
28 Go to commentsThe Crusaders can still get in to the Play Off’s. The imminent return of outstanding captain Scott Barrett and his All Black team mate Codie Taylor will be a big boost.There are others like Tamaiti Williams too. Two home games coming up. Fellow Crusader fans get there and support these guys. I will be.
2 Go to commentsCant get more Wellington than Proctor.
3 Go to commentsWhy not let the media decide. Like how they choose the head coach. Like most of us we entrust the rugby system to choose. A rugby team includes the coaches. It's collective.
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