'The likes of Ted Hill, Ollie Lawrence, these boys are specimens'
After weeks of headline-generating hype about Mike Brown supposedly being in line to face his old club Harlequins last Sunday for Newcastle, a head-to-head ultimately cancelled due to a rib injury, this Saturday it is the turn of Worcester front-rower Scott Baldwin, another recent title winner, to go up against his old London pals. Unlike Brown, this is a face-off that will happen as the ex-Wales international is set to start at hooker back at The Stoop.
The curiosity, though, is why the heck Baldwin chose to join the Warriors in the first place. Only for the moratorium on relegation getting voted into the Premiership earlier this year, Worcester would be plying their trade this term down in the Championship. Their results were terrible last season, just one on-pitch win secured – and that came on opening day last November at home to London Irish.
They have managed to repeat that trick the second time around, defeating London Irish again at Sixways last Saturday in another round one encounter, but there is no guarantee that things will now improve compared to 2020/21. It begs the question what the hell is 33-year-old Baldwin doing at Worcester when he could have remained on at Harlequins where he played an important part in their second-ever Premiership title win last June?
The reason for the switch was three-fold – an easier commuting distance to Wales, the potential he felt Worcester had when playing them last season for Harlequins, and his long-term aim to get into coaching under the wing of Jonathan Thomas, his old pal from his Ospreys days.
“Yes, I’m commuting over, staying up on a Monday and Thursday night generally,” explained Baldwin to RugbyPass about his weekly schedule across the Severn bridge. “Something I struggled with in the earlier part of my career was that work/life balance and I have a pretty addictive personality, so it’s nice now to just be able to get home, enjoy being with my family and switching off from work when I am out of the work environment.”
'I never intended to be as honest as I was in that conversation'@scottbaldwin2 's gambling addiction started properly in Italy and went unnoticed for years, but his house of cards eventually collapsed, writes @heagneyl ???https://t.co/10PPbghSF0
— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) May 16, 2021
Most players would have run a mile on getting an offer to join a team that was getting beaten on a weekly basis. They would have viewed it as a step-down in their career. Not Baldwin, though, who saw nothing but merit in the approach he had from Worcester. “I think so,” agreed Baldwin about the likelihood of other players turning their back on a club in the bad habit of losing, “but I also think at Christmas time when I made the decision, there was a lot of rugby to be played.
“We got on a great run at Quins at the end of last season and it was a great way to leave a club, but also I knew there were players coming in this season at Worcester and it was going to be a different squad. JT inherited the squad that he had and that is nothing against the players that he had but he had a vision going forward which was a three, five-year plan.
“You have seen with the result last weekend, you have got to look at some of the young players coming through. I remember we played Worcester last season when I was at Harlequins, the likes of Ted Hill, Ollie Lawrence, and these boys. They are specimens. Ted was unbelievable at the weekend as was Ollie. It’s nurturing that talent and bringing it through with the experience we have got in the likes of Owen Williams, Matt Garvey, Willi Heinz, the old dog who showed up really well on the weekend.”
With Harlequins having been in the doldrums last winter, a slump that led to the exit of Paul Gustard before they rebounded to win the Premiership title, Baldwin knows only too well the value of the confidence that winning can generate. It’s something he hopes can now materialise at Worcester after their promising start to the new season.
“Confidence is massive and something I learnt at Quins is you have to enjoy what you do. Yes, it is a serious job. Yes, there is a lot on the line but you also have to enjoy it. You have to play with a smile on your face and that was probably a little bit missing last year. Losses would do that. Then a couple of wins and you’d get a little bit of confidence – and confidence is massive in rugby.
“From a hooker’s point of view, that first lineout of the game gives you confidence if you hit double top but if you lose the first one you go into yourself a little bit, you have got a little bit of doubt in your head and the momentum is huge in rugby. It’s such a strange sport.
“There are probably not many other sports in terms of any team can beat anyone on the day and if you look at a lot of Worcester’s results last season they were very close and probably confidence was a difference going into those last 20 minutes.”
What has Baldwin brought so far to the party at Worcester, where the 4G pitch they use is different to what he had known previously at his other clubs? “Training on the artificial pitch is a lot faster but it is a lot easier, it’s more consistent. I’m just trying to raise the standards, especially the set piece. I want to nail down a marker.
“We were particularly happy with how the squad went last weekend but there are always work-ons and something I always pride myself on is my ability to execute my set-piece roles, so trying to drive those standards, not just in games but in training as well.
“I haven’t minded it [the artificial pitch] in training so much but I haven’t really experienced it over a long period of time. Last season I didn’t have any issue when I was playing on grass and then transitioning into an artificial pitch, I’m neither here nor there on it at the moment.”
In time, Baldwin wants to switch into the coaching sphere but at the moment it’s all about getting the best out of himself on the pitch. “I’m purely playing at the minute. Hopefully, I have got a few good years left yet. I am having chats with the coaches on some ideas I feel might work but ultimately we have got a great coaching group here and I am probably picking their brains more than they are picking mine at the moment.”
“I genuinely have heard that…”
– Speculation on this week's @TheRugbyPod about Chris Ashton led to a lively response from Worcester boss Jonathan Thomas at his club's weekly media briefing #Worcesterhttps://t.co/h7Ypbpvw9X
— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) September 21, 2021
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The game was a quarter final, not a semi final. Barrett will be here for 6 months, he is no one's replacement at 13. That mantle will most likely ultimately go to Jamie Osborne, though Garry Ringrose has at least 4 more years in him. The long term problem position (in the next 3 years) for Leinster is tighthead prop, though there are a couple of prospects at schools level.
21 Go to commentsSo much for all that hype surrounding the ‘revival’ of Aussie rugby. The Blues were without the likes of regular starters Perofeta, Sullivan, Christie etc… This was a capitulation of the highest order by Australia’s finest. Joe Schmidt definitely has his work cut out for him.
2 Go to commentsYes they can ignore Sotutu. Like Akira Ioane plays OK at Super level but gets lost in tests. Too many chances too many failures.
2 Go to commentsA wallaby front-row of Bell, Blake and Tupou…now that would be hefty
1 Go to comments“But with an exceptional pass accuracy rating “ Which apart from Roigard is not a feature of any of the other 9s in NZ. Kind of basic for a Black 9 dont.you. think? Yet we keep seeing FC and TJ being rated ahead of him? Weird if it’s seen as vital to get our backline beating in your face defences.
1 Go to commentsThanks BeeMc! Looks like many teams need extra time to settle from the quadrennial northern migration. I think generally the quality of the Rugby has held up. Fiji has been fantastic and fun to watch
13 Go to commentsLets compare apples with apples. Lyon sent weak team the week before, but nobody raised an eyebrow. Give the South African teams a few years to build their depth, then you will be moaning that the teams are too strong.
41 Go to commentsDid footballs agents also perform the scout role at some time? I’m surprised more high profile players haven’t taken up the occupation, great way to remain in the game and use all that experience without really requiring a lot of specific expertise?
1 Go to commentsSuper rugby is struggling but that has little to do with sabbaticals. 1. Too many teams from Aust and NZ - should be 3 and 4 respectively, add in 2 from Japan, 1 possibly 2 from Argentina. 2. Inconsistent and poor refereeing, admittedly not restricted to Super rugby. Only one team was reffed at the breakdown in Reds v H’Landers match. Scrum penalty awarded in Canes v Drua when No 8 had the ball in the open with little defence nearby - ideal opportunity to play advantage. Coming back to Reds match - same scrum situation but ref played advantage - Landers made 10 yards and were penalised at the breakdown when the ref should have returned to scrum penalty. 3. Marketing is weak and losing ground to AFL and NRL. Playing 2 days compared with 4. 4. Scheduling is unattractive to family attendance. Have any franchises heard of Sundays 2pm?
12 Go to commentsAbsolutely..all they need is a chance in yhe playoffs and I bet all the other teams will be nervous…THEY KNOW HOW TO WIN IM THE PLAYOFFS..
2 Go to commentsI really hope he comes back and helps out with some coaching.
1 Go to commentsI think we are all just hoping that the Olympic 7s doesn’t suffer the same sad fate as the last RWC with the officials ruining the spectacle.
1 Go to commentsPersonally, I’ve lost the will to even be bothered about the RFU, the structure, the participants. It’s all a sham. I now simply enjoy getting a group of friends together to go and watch a few games a year in different locations (including Europe, the championship, etc). I feel extremely sorry for the real fans of these clubs who are constantly ignored by the RFU and other administrators. I feel especially sorry for the fans of clubs in the Championship who have had considerable central funding stripped away and are then expected to just take whatever the RFU put to them. Its all a sham, especially if the failed clubs are allowed to return.
10 Go to commentsI’m guessing Carl Hayman would have preferred to have stayed in NZ with benefit of hindsight. Up north there is the expectation to play twice as many games with far less ‘player management’ protocols that Paul is now criticising. Less playing through concussions means longer, healthier, careers. Carter used as the eg here by Paul, his sabbatical allowed him to play until age 37. OK its not an exact science but there is far more expectations on players who sign for Top 14 or Engl Prem clubs to get value for the huge salaries. NZR get alot wrong but keeping their best players in NZ rugby is not one of them. SA clubs are virtually devoid of their top players now, no thanks. They cant threaten the big teams in the Champions Cup, the squads have little depth. Cant see Canes/Chiefs struggling. Super has been great this year, fantastic high skill matches. Drua a fantastic addition and Jaguares will add another quality team eventually. Aus teams performing strongly and no doubt will benefit with the incentive of a Lions tour and a home RWC. Let Jordie enjoy his time with Leinster, it will allow the opportunity for another player to emerge at Canes in his absence.
12 Go to commentsLove that man, his way to despise angry little men is so funny ! 😂
5 Go to comments“South African franchises would be powerhouses if we had all our overseas based players back in situ. We would have the same unbeatable aura the Toulouses, Leinsters or Saracens of this world have had over the last decade or so.” Proof that Jake white does not understand the economics of the game in SA. Players earning abroad are not going to simply come back and represent the bulls. But they might if they have a springbok contract.
25 Go to commentsA lot of fans just joined in for the fun of it! We all admire O'Gara and what he has done for La Rochelle
5 Go to commentsThe RFU will find a way to mess this up as usual. My bet is there will be no promotion into the the Premiership, only relegation into National League One. Hopefully they won’t parachute failed clubs into the league at the expense of clubs who have battled for promotion.
10 Go to commentsWell that’s the contracts for RG and Jordie bought and paid for. Now, what are the chances we can persuade Antoine to hop over with all the extra dosh we’ll have from living at the Aviva & Croke next season…??? 🤑🤑🤑
37 Go to commentsWow, that’s incredible. Great for rugby.
37 Go to comments