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Saints fans are all saying the same thing about O'Gara's comments about the club

By Ian Cameron
Ronan O'Gara - PA

La Rochelle boss Ronan O’Gara has carved out a reputation for saying exactly what he feels – be it as a pundit or as a coach.

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Some have likened him to fellow Corkonian Roy Keane and the former Munster flyhalf’s comments about Champions Cup opponents Northampton Saints certainly had a Keanesque rawness to them.

After thrashing Saints back in France in December, La Rochelle did the double on the Gallagher Premiership side with a resounding  31-13 victory Heineken Champions Cup at Franklin’s Gardens yesterday after an ill-disciplined outing from the home team.

O’Gara wasn’t happy and suggested the victory over the Englishmen was vexing as La Rochelle failed to exploit a 14-man Saints team that he pointedly described as not being a ‘top side’. In the world of rugby union, where notions of politeness and respect often see coaches refer to weaker opponents as a ‘tough side’ or ‘physical’ after a one-sided victory, O’Gara’s comments were a rare bit of honesty.

“We didn’t have a fear factor of playing here as we demolished Northampton back at our place,” O’Gara said after the game. “We’re trying to tell the players that they [Northampton] have a rich history in the competition, which they have, but they’re not a top side and they’re struggling at the minute. We struggled as well today.”

Maybe a little surprisingly, most Saints fans agreed with the sentiment, hurtful and all as it may have been to be described as not a top side, with many replying as such on a Twitter thread created by rugby writer Tom Vickers.

Former England captain and retired Saints’ veteran Tom Wood applauded O’Gara for giving his honest opinion: “The result and the points he makes hurt as a Northampton man but the honesty and edge in the interview is awesome. Love hearing coaches and players talk like that rather than cliched platitudes.”

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He later qualified his remark somewhat, replying to one Saints fan that: “I wasn’t really referring to the accuracy of what he said because that can often be subjective but I like how bold his comments were.”

Others just straight-up agreed.

“It’s hard to disagree with him,” noted one member of the Saints’ faithful. “Possibly we need more such frankness around the Gardens…?”

“Can’t disagree at the moment [with O’Gara’s comment],” wrote one frustrated fan. “Too inconsistent; give away too many penalties; struggling scrum; offset by flashes of brilliance and periods of top class play and immense commitment. If we find a real 80-minute game we will be unstoppable.”

Another fan concurred with O’Gara, their only complaint being that O’Gara kept on standing in front of them: “Totally agree, as much as it hurt to hear him talk about us in that way, the honesty was refreshing, my only issue with him was he kept standing right in front of me in the 2nd half and just looked at me with the “do you know who I am look” when I politely asked him to move.”

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Another fan wrote: “Yeah as a fan listening to the same page from the media handbook gets old really quick. Rugby needs characters just being themselves, it’s so much more interesting when you see real people and I think the wider audience prefer it.”

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Jon 4 hours ago
Jake White: Are modern rugby players actually better?

This is the problem with conservative mindsets and phycology, and homogenous sports, everybody wants to be the same, use the i-win template. Athlete wise everyone has to have muscles and work at the gym to make themselves more likely to hold on that one tackle. Do those players even wonder if they are now more likely to be tackled by that player as a result of there “work”? Really though, too many questions, Jake. Is it better Jake? Yes, because you still have that rugby of ole that you talk about. Is it at the highest International level anymore? No, but you go to your club or checkout your representative side and still engage with that ‘beautiful game’. Could you also have a bit of that at the top if coaches encouraged there team to play and incentivized players like Damian McKenzie and Ange Capuozzo? Of course we could. Sadly Rugby doesn’t, or didn’t, really know what direction to go when professionalism came. Things like the state of northern pitches didn’t help. Over the last two or three decades I feel like I’ve been fortunate to have all that Jake wants. There was International quality Super Rugby to adore, then the next level below I could watch club mates, pulling 9 to 5s, take on the countries best in representative rugby. Rugby played with flair and not too much riding on the consequences. It was beautiful. That largely still exists today, but with the world of rugby not quite getting things right, the picture is now being painted in NZ that that level of rugby is not required in the “pathway” to Super Rugby or All Black rugby. You might wonder if NZR is right and the pathway shouldn’t include the ‘amateur’, but let me tell you, even though the NPC might be made up of people still having to pull 9-5s, we know these people still have dreams to get out of that, and aren’t likely to give them. They will be lost. That will put a real strain on the concept of whether “visceral thrill, derring-do and joyful abandon” type rugby will remain under the professional level here in NZ. I think at some point that can be eroded as well. If only wanting the best athlete’s at the top level wasn’t enough to lose that, shutting off the next group, or level, or rugby players from easy access to express and showcase themselves certainly will. That all comes back around to the same question of professionalism in rugby and whether it got things right, and rugby is better now. Maybe the answer is turning into a “no”?

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john 6 hours ago
Will the Crusaders' decline spark a slow death for New Zealand rugby?

But here in Australia we were told Penney was another gun kiwi coach, for the Tahs…….and yet again it turned out the kiwi coach was completely useless. Another con job on Australian rugby. As was Robbie Deans, as was Dave Rennie. Both coaches dumped from NZ and promoted to Australia as our saviour. And the Tahs lap them up knowing they are second rate and knowing that under pressure when their short comings are exposed in Australia as well, that they will fall in below the largest most powerful province and choose second rate Tah players to save their jobs. As they do and exactly as Joe Schmidt will do. Gauranteed. Schmidt was dumped by NZ too. That’s why he went overseas. That why kiwi coaches take jobs in Australia, to try and prove they are not as bad as NZ thought they were. Then when they get found out they try and ingratiate themselves to NZ again by dragging Australian teams down with ridiculous selections and game plans. NZ rugby’s biggest problem is that it can’t yet transition from MCaw Cheatism. They just don’t know how to try and win on your merits. It is still always a contest to see how much cheating you can get away with. Without a cheating genius like McCaw, they are struggling. This I think is why my wise old mate in NZ thinks Robertson will struggle. The Crusaders are the nursery of McCaw Cheatism. Sean Fitzpatrick was probably the father of it. Robertson doesn’t know anything else but other countries have worked it out.

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Adrian 8 hours ago
Will the Crusaders' decline spark a slow death for New Zealand rugby?

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Trevor 11 hours ago
Will forgotten Wallabies fit the Joe Schmidt model?

Thanks Brett.. At last a positive article on the potential of Wallaby candidates, great to read. Schmidt’s record as an international rugby coach speaks for itself, I’m somewhat confident he will turn the Wallaby’s fortunes around …. on the field. It will be up to others to steady the ship off the paddock. But is there a flaw in my optimism? We have known all along that Australia has the players to be very competitive with their international rivals. We know that because everyone keeps telling us. So why the poor results? A question that requires a definitive answer before the turn around can occur. Joe Schmidt signed on for 2 years, time to encompass the Lions tour of 2025. By all accounts he puts family first and that’s fair enough, but I would wager that his 2 year contract will be extended if the next 18 months or so shows the statement “Australia has the players” proves to be correct. The new coach does not have a lot of time to meld together an outfit that will be competitive in the Rugby Championship - it will be interesting to see what happens. It will be interesting to see what happens with Giteau law, the new Wallaby coach has already verbalised that he would to prefer to select from those who play their rugby in Australia. His first test in charge is in July just over 3 months away .. not a long time. I for one wish him well .. heaven knows Australia needs some positive vibes.

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