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It should have been a penalty - Ex Lions admit All Blacks were hard done by
Former British and Irish Lions Martyn Williams and Matt Dawson both felt Romain Poite’s decision to downgrade a potentially series-winning penalty for New Zealand was the wrong one.
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Owen Farrell had just brought the Lions level at 15-15 with less than two minutes remaining when, from the restart, Liam Williams knocked on in the direction of an offside Ken Owens, who caught and then released the ball as he realised his error.
Referee Poite initially awarded a penalty to the All Blacks in eminently kickable territory but touring captain Sam Warburton asked him to check with the TMO for accidental offside and, following consultation of the replays, the official changed his decision to a free-kick, to the chagrin of home skipper Kieran Read.
New Zealand could not score from the ensuing phases as the Lions held on for a draw, but Williams and Dawson both felt the wrong call had been made.
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“It should have been a penalty to the All Blacks at the death. Romain Poite has done the Lions a huge favour there,” said Williams – twice a tourist with the Lions – on BBC Radio 5 Live.
“Whether he’s bottled it, only he knows. You very rarely see a referee change his decision. We’ve got the rub of the green but it would have been so tough to see either of those teams lose tonight.
“We’ll be talking about this for about 100 years. It was an unbelievable Test match but if the All Blacks had had a goal kicker in the last two Tests, they would have won.”
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“Ken Owens was in front of Liam Williams, he had plenty of time to skirt out the way and not touch the ball,” added Dawson, who was selected in three successive Lions parties between 1997 and 2005.
“He went to play the ball, then took his hands away. That was a sign he’d made a massive error, that was a penalty.”
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11 Go to commentsYeah, and ours is waaay bigger than yours. Just as you's get a semi…oh hold on that never happens
34 Go to commentsLove watching
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3 Go to commentsThank your for wasting 2 minutes of my life Daniel. There is a useful message in there somewhere but your delivery sucks.
7 Go to commentsBen Smith, you are cry baby
214 Go to commentsSux that homophobia is still a thing though. I wonder how many players who could have become legends never kept playing rugby because they felt unwelcome.
7 Go to commentsCrazy he’s only 28, feel like he’s been around forever - don’t mind the move, safe pair of hands and creates depth in a thin position for ABs. Hopefully aides Kemara’s growth also without thrusting too much responsibility on him
1 Go to commentsMen should show strength and be mean, but they should be able to show emotion to those close yo them in certain times, birth of your child, death of family, proud moment. This article is stupid
7 Go to commentsWhat a weak article…absolute drivel and clickbait, well done. Will stick to rugby365 thanks
7 Go to commentsHonest, discipline, humility… Priceless.
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214 Go to commentsOverheard conversation between NZ and SA rugby fans everywhere: We’re the greatest! No! we’re the greatest! We’re the greatest! No we’re the greatest! Ireland are arrogant! True but they beat you! We’re the greatest! No! we’re the greatest! Etc. etc, etc.
34 Go to commentsTypical crap Aussie weather
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34 Go to commentsWow, do we really still have to listen to all the excuses and “unfairness” of it all. Even blaming the bounce of an egg shaped ball for the loss. But the article is about context, so what about the Springboks having to play the other 5 teams in the top 6 and still beating a comparatively rested AB team on a very empty tank.
214 Go to comments“Teams would generally have three coaches below their head honcho; attack coach, defence coach, forwards coach” do they? I’m not sure what the NZ set up is tbh, but the other 4 sides top 5 sides all have very different structures to the one outlined in the article! As well as attack, defence, and forwards coaches, SA, Ireland, and France also have specialist scrum coaches. England have a specialist scrum coach too, but arguably don’t have a forwards coach, with that role taken on by Borthwick. SA also have a backs coach in addition to defence and attack, and Ireland and England have fitness coaches, with England also having two skills coaches.
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7 Go to commentsIreland are going to win the world cup.
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