'No doubt': Foster explains the Savea debacle and weighs in on the 'cardfest'
All Blacks head coach Ian Foster has confirmed his side was puzzled when Ardie Savea was not allowed back on the field and also compared last night’s loss to the 2017 British & Irish series.
In the second test against the touring Lions in 2017, midfielder Sonny Bill Williams was red carded in the first half which reduced the All Blacks to 14 men for the duration of the contest.
They suffered a similar fate last night when reserve prop Angus Ta’avao was sent off for head-to-head contact in a tackle with Ireland’s centre Garry Ringrose after 30 minutes.
The All Blacks were forced to substitute Ardie Savea for another prop to scrummage having already lost Ofa Tuungafasi to a yellow card.
“In many ways it had flashbacks to the 2017 Lions series,” Foster said of the 23-12 defeat to Ireland.
“With the red card, we had a lot of attitude, we tried hard but we just weren’t quite good enough in the end in that second test, and it was the same again last night.”
Foster explained that the All Blacks definitely wanted star No 8 Savea to return to play but weren’t allowed to bring him back on by the officiating crew.
That decision was at odds with what All Black management thought should have happened in that situation.
“There was clearly confusion around the red card and what could happen after that. To be fair to everyone, it was a revolving door there for a little while,” he said.
“But we are seeking clarification. What happened was not what we thought should happen.
“No doubt, no doubt that we wanted Ardie to go back on,” Foster confirmed.
The All Blacks were issued three cards in the first half which Foster believed is part of an officiating effort that has taken the game ‘too far’.
England head coach Eddie Jones also commented after his side’s win over Australia that the game had gotten ‘out of control’ and referred to the All Blacks in his speech.
“Personally, I think it is too far. I think we are in danger of turning a game into a cardfest,” Foster said.
“There were clearly strong messages sent out last week, there was a feeling that we should have had four yellow cards last week,” he said.
“It seemed to be the mindset that went into this game.
“It is what it is though. If you look at our cards, you have to look at them singularly.
“We get the Leicester one, I think that is incredibly unfortunate but they are the rules. I don’t think there is anything in that one. Ofa, we accept and Angus, we kind of accept.
“I think most people could see a change in direction, a big prop reacting and a collision that is pretty unfortunate.”
On whether the Northern Hemisphere teams had adapted better to the rules and officiating, Foster pointed to the weekend’s results as evidence that they had gotten something right this weekend.
“If you look at the weekend, they did a pretty good job. It was a Northern Hemisphere weekend, wasn’t it?” Foster said.
“Wales getting up, England getting up and Ireland getting up. Whilst there is a bit of doom and gloom in our camp it is a great weekend for world rugby.
“It sets up next weekend pretty well. But clearly, we’ve got to get better.”
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We had during the week twilight footy, twilight cricket, tw golf plus there was the athletics club. Then the weekend was rugby 15s plus the net ball, really busy club scene back then but so much has changed and rugby has suffered. And it was all about changing lifestyles.
6 Go to commentsIn the 70s and 80s my club ran 5 Senior sides plus a Vets. Now it is 2 sides with an occasional 3rd team. Players have difficulty getitng to training now, not sure why and the commitment is not there. It seems to me more a problem of people applying themselves and not expecting to turn up and play whenever they want to.
6 Go to commentsROG’s contract is until 2027. The conversation about a successor to Galthie after RWC 2027 may be starting now. We can infer that Galthie’s reign stops then. He is throwing the Irish Coaching Job angle in because he is Irish. The next Irish coach MUST be Leo Cullen. As well as being the best coach available, coaching the vast majority of Irish Internationals week in week out, he has shown incredible skill at recruiting the best coaching staff for the job in hand. That was a failing in France. Cullen is a shrewd guy and if there is a need for foreign coaches underneath him he won’t hesitate. Rightly so. Ireland does need to start to bring Irish coaches through. Not just at the professional level but we need to train coaches to man new pathways for developing kids from schools/clubs up through the divisions.
7 Go to commentsNo Islam says it must rule where it stands Thus it is to be deleted from this planet Earth
18 Go to commentsThis team probably does not beat the ABs sadly Not sure if BPA will be available given his signing for Force but has to enter consideration. Very strong possibility of getting schooled by the AB props. Advantage AB. Rodda/Skelton would be a tasty locking combination - would love to see how they get on. Advantage Wallabies. Backrow a risk of getting out hustled and outmuscled by ABs. Will be interesting to see if the Blues feast on the Reds this weekend the way they did the Brumbies we are in big trouble at the breakdown. Great energy, running and defence but goalkicking/general kicking/passing quality in the halves bothers me enormously. SA may have won the World Cup for a lot of the tournament without a recognised goalkicker but Pollard in the final made a difference IMO. Injuries and retirements leave AB stocks a bit lighter but still stronger. 12 and 13 ABs shade it (Barret > Paisami, Ione = Ikitau, arguably) Interesting clash of styles on the wings - Corey Toole running around Caleb Clark and Caleb running over the top of Toole. Reece vs Koro probably the reverse. Pretty even IMO. 15s Kelleway = Love See advantage to ABs man for man, but we are not obviously getting slaughtered anywhere which makes a nice change. Think talent wise we are pretty even and if our cohesion and teamwork is better than the ABs then its just about doable.
11 Go to commentsCompletely agree. More friday night games would be a hit. RFU to make sure every club has a floodlit pitch. Club opens again Saturday to welcome touch / tag. Minis and youths on Sunday
6 Go to comments1.97m and 105Kg? Proportionately, probably skinnier than me at 1.82 and 82kilos. He won’t survive against the big guys at that weight.
55 Go to commentsThe value he brought to the crusaders as an assistant was equal to what he got out of being there. He reflected not only on the team culture but also the credit he attributed to the rugby community. Such experience shouldn’t be overlooked.
7 Go to commentsGood luck Aussie
11 Go to commentssmith at 9 / mounga 10 / laumape 12 / fainganuku 14
57 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
2 Go to commentsDon’t disagree with much of this but it appears you forgot Rodda and Beale, who started at the Force on the weekend.
11 Go to commentsExcept for the injured Zach Gallagher this would be Saders best forward pack for the season. Blackadder needs to stay at 7, for all of Christies tackling he is not dominant and offers very little else. McNicholfullback is maybe a good option, Fihaki not really upto it, there was a reason Burke played there last year. Maybe Havilli to 2nd five McLeod to wing. Need a strong winger on 1 side to compliment Reece
1 Go to commentsTo me TJ is clearly the best 9 in the competition right now but he's also a proven player off the bench, there's few playmaking players who can come off the bench as calm and settled as he is, Beauden can, TJ can and I doubt any of the scrumhalves in contention can, if they want to experiment with new 9s I want him on the bench ready to step in if they crumble under the pressure. The Boks put their best front row on the bench, I'd like to see us take a similar approach, the Hurricanes have been doing similar things with players like Kirifi.
57 Go to commentsROG has better chance to win a WC if he starts training and make himself eligible as a player. He won’t make the Ireland squad but I reckon he may get close with Namibia (needs to improve his Afrikaans) or Portugal. Both sides had 1000:1 odds to win the RWC in 2023 which is an improvement on ROG’s odds of winning a RWC as a coach. Unlike Top 14 teams, national teams can’t go shopping and buy the best players - you work with the available talent pool and turn them into world beaters.
7 Go to commentsthat backline nope that backline is terrible why would you have sevu Reece when he’s not even top 5 wingers in the comp why have Blackadder when there’s better players no Scott barret isn’t an automatic the guy is more of a liability than anything why have him there when you have samipeni who’s far far better
57 Go to commentsAh, good to find you Nick. Agree with everything about Cale. So much to like about his game
55 Go to commentsNot too bad. Questions at 6, lock and HB for me. The ABs will be a lot stronger once Jordan and Roigard return. Also, work needs to be made to secure Frizzell back for next season and maybe also Mo’unga; they’re just wasting time playing in japan
57 Go to commentsOn the title, i wonder for many of those people it is a case something like a belief in working smarter, not harder?
1 Go to commentsForget Sotutu. One of those whose top level is Super Rugby. Id take a punt on Wallace Sititi Finau ahead of Glass body Blackadder.
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