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Nienaber explains why he had player in coaches box against Ireland

Jacques Nienaber head coach of South Africa looks on during the warming up during the Rugby World Cup France 2023 match between South Africa and Ireland at Stade de France on September 23, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by Gaspafotos/MB Media/Getty Images)

Springboks head coach Jacques Nienaber has explained why he had No.8 Duane Vermeulen in the coaches box during the South Africa’s 13-8 defeat to Ireland at the Stade de France last weekend.

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The former Ulster back row was spotted in the box alongside Nienaber, Rassie Erasmus and Felix Jones, leading some to question what the exact reason for his presence was.

“I can’t say if he’s preparing for the future,” said Nienaber when asked if Vermeulen was preparing for a future in coaching. “It’s not the first time that we have had a player in the box. It’s good for us as coaches to sometimes have a player [there], because they give us a different perspective of how our communication is within the team. They get a sense of the sometimes frustration that coaches are under in a coaches’ box. That grows them as a player.

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“Our coaches’ meeting starts at seven in the morning – any player can join that. Let’s say it gets to something sensitive like team selection, we will excuse them from the meeting and have the internal discussion, but they are more than willing – from 2018 – to sit in coaches’ meeting as much as they want.

“Duane’s role; if you look back to 2019, the best way to describe it is a Francois Louw role. He’s a guy that can start, that can play a test match for you, but he’s also a guy that’s got a lot of experience and he adds his wealth of knowledge into the group.

“Not saying that he can’t start. Look at Francois Louw, the contribution he made in that semi-final for us, to get a penalty in the 76th minute.

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“Big moments, big roles, been there before – he’s [Vermeulen’s] probably in that mould, but if there’s an injury and he has to start and play the whole game, he’s more than fit and good enough to do that.”]

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Nienaber is happy to put the Ireland defeat behind them and show what they can do against Tonga.

“Let’s take the result out of the way – we all know that we need to get a win and a bonus point. So let’s park the result.

“We’ve got certain things that we have to rectify that we couldn’t get right against Ireland.

“In terms of our game plan, there are definitely some things that we will try a little bit differently in this game to see if it works.

“The result is very important but we need to fix that if we do get the opportunity to go into a quarter-final or knockout rugby. If we don’t fix those things we probably won’t last long in this competition.”

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JW 2 hours ago
Is the overlap dying in modern rugby?

Here you go


No one was more dissapointed in lack of execution in that July than Razor


SA england numbers left side )home)

2Tries42Conversions30Drop Goals0109Carries885Line Breaks7

Attack1113Passes94109Ball Carries88229mPost Contact Metres326m


aussie

5Tries53Conversions40Drop Goals0122Carries1616Line Breaks13

Attack146Passes182122Ball Carries161 345mPost Contact Metres417m


nz eoyt

1Tries31Conversions30Drop Goals088Carries1445Line Breaks8

Attack104Passes21188Ball Carries144190mPost Contact Metres279m


nz jul2 england numbers right side (away)

2Tries21Conversions20Drop Goals093Carries1088Line Breaks5

Attack121Passes13993Ball Carries108235mPost Contact Metres212m


nz jul1

2Tries20Conversions10Drop Goals0152Carries9710Line Breaks3

Attack213Passes111152Ball Carries97288mPost Contact Metres200m


Thats the dump from RP stats


so weve got conceded

4

5

3

in eoyt with line beaks and PCM for each

7/326

13/417

8/279

and in july

2 8/235

2 10/288


here is the 6n

sctoland away

3Tries23Conversions10Drop Goals186Carries1024Line Breaks4

Attack98Passes14986Ball Carries102309mPost Contact Metres316m


ireland home

3Tries21Conversions01Drop Goals0114Carries938Line Breaks2

Attack163Passes121114Ball Carries93327mPost Contact Metres182m


France away

3Tries43Conversions40Drop Goals0125Carries657Line Breaks7

Attack148Passes82125Ball Carries65228mPost Contact Metres118m


As you should clearly see, those numbers are more consistent with 3, 4, and 5 try games. So indeed the tries they conceeded in July weren't reflective of there defence at all. Conceeded breaks and PCM avg once Jones system in effect for second half of 6N is 4.3 breaks and 240m, against NZ in july of 9 breaks and 261m. Consistent with an expect 3/4 try games also. It all points to NZ not finishing a couple more tries than Opta would have predicted (would love to know what it did predict ala https://theanalyst.com/2024/10/data-behind-south-africa-rugby-championship-success and https://theanalyst.com/2024/09/opta-rugby-data-debrief-springboks-wafer-connacht ).

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