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Jake White: Has Nienaber taken a back seat?

Jacques Nienaber, Head Coach of South Africa, speaks with Rassie Erasmus prior to the Rugby World Cup France 2023 match between South Africa and Tonga at Stade Velodrome on October 01, 2023 in Marseille, France. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Let me tell you a story. In 2007, I was in Marseille preparing the Springboks for the quarter-final game against Fiji. During the week, I saw a few All Blacks coaches that I know.

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One guy was Mick Byrne, their skills and kicking coach. We had a little chat and parted ways. A few days later we bumped into each other again at the Old Port, the night before the quarter-final in Cardiff against France. A few of the staff were still there, so I said, ‘what’s happening, why aren’t you in Cardiff?’ They said, ‘Well, the decision’s been made for some of us to stay behind and prepare for the next week’.

History tells us that there was no next week and they had to fly to meet the squad at Heathrow to fly back to New Zealand. The lesson I took from that is if you start worrying about what happens next week, you won’t get through this week. The bottom line is you can’t do anything that will help you in the future, it’s all about the here and now. That’s why France felt compelled to get Antoine Dupont back on the field.

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I can guarantee you that when Dupont runs out in a scrum-cap, it will be like Madiba (Nelson Mandela) coming out in 1995 in a Springbok jersey. Our slogan in 1995 was, ‘one-team, one country’ and it brought the whole country together. When I see France playing in this tournament, with the singing, chanting and energy in the crowd, it looks a little bit like that. The TV audiences are massive and it feels like the whole country uniting to support Les Bleus. It’s deja vu. I feel like I’ve seen it before.

Do you remember the last words said at the 1995 World Cup final. A broadcaster said to Francois Pienaar, ‘there are 65,000 people here supporting you’, and he said, ‘No, we didn’t have 65,000 South Africans supporting us, we had 43 million South Africans.’ So on Sunday night, we’re not playing a team, we’re playing a nation. That’s the biggest challenge for the Springboks. You can’t underestimate national fervour and pride. If the Boks make it through, they will feel emboldened that they can win the World Cup for a fourth time.

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As someone who has watched every tournament, I told you from day one what an advantage it is to have a home World Cup. From experience, it’s not the people in the stadium that intimidate you. It’s the ones you meet in the restaurants during the week or walking around the villages. Those personal interactions tell how much this means to the locals. Again, it’s like 1995 in South Africa. We opened up the tournament by beating the reigning World Champions, Australia, at Newlands and then we had controversy in the French semi-final before facing the mighty All Blacks in the final. That competition had everything; suspensions, injuries, drama. The lot. The parallels are uncanny.

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Again, the return of Dupont will be a massive inspiration to his team. I can just imagine what it would have felt like in that team room when the doctor cleared him to play. It would have made the players feel an inch taller.

Whether it comes off or not, that’s the risk you take, but 60-70 minutes of Dupont is worth solid gold to France. Even if he has a quiet game, he will inspire players around him.

The interesting thing about this French team is that they are so balanced and dare I say, normal. If you look at Mauvaka, Baille and Atonio, they are as good as any front row in the competition. Jelonch, Alldritt and Ollivon are as good as any back row. Dupont is the best player in the world and not many teams could replace a player of Ntamack’s quality with a player like Jalibert. I’ve also been impressed with the maturity shown by Jonathan Danty and Gael Fickou. They look like they’ve played for years together. Then you have Damien Penaud, who has just turned 27 and is about to break the try-scoring record of the great Serge Blanco. There’s been little fanfare, little glitz, but what a player.

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There’s a historic perception in South Africa that with France you just want to avoid them when they’re in the mood, but correspondingly they can have periods where it goes off-script. Having coached in France that’s a strength and weakness of their psychological make-up. When they say they’re ready, boy are they ready, everything is switched on. Indeed, I coached the Boks against them a few times and we struggled to beat them. They came to South Africa and beat us, and we lost in Paris. However, I also remember asking my old Montpellier team after a mystifying loss and said, ‘What happened?’ and they said, ‘Well, we weren’t ready’. Whether it was lost in translation or whether it was just the mindset wasn’t right, I don’t know, but that inconsistency dogged French sides for decades.

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In saying that, this is a different French team. Having Shaun Edwards in the coaching set-up and Fabien Galthie and Rafa Ibanez, who have both played overseas, ensures there is more of a pragmatism to their play. Gone are the historical tears during the anthems, the hot-headed Latin temperament and mass changes to the team. This is a cool-headed, pragmatic French team who are ice-cold under pressure. That’s the management’s greatest achievement; to get the squad to buy into a different mindset.

As for the Springboks, this week has reminded me of a book called, ‘The Art of War’ by Sun Tzu, and in there, there’s a quote that says, ‘if you react to your enemy you are in a position of weakness.’ I mention this because this week South Africa announced their team later than they usually do.

Keeping the fans waiting until the last minute is a departure from how the Springboks usually do it. They routinely announce the team early, which comes across as, ‘We know what we’re doing, we know what we want, we know how the team is going to play, and it doesn’t matter what the opposition are doing’. This week, however, it’s been mind games, Rassie’s been on social media toying with a 7-1, 8-0 split and now we see it’s a 5-3 split. I think the French probably expected a bit of fun and games but I’m not sure if the delay works. We will only find out on Sunday night.

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What has been interesting is that Rassie has spoken more in the last two weeks than he has in the last four years. I don’t know how Jacques feels about it because you don’t hear much from him, but maybe it’s a tactic to keep Rassie at the forefront. It feels like as the heat has come on, he’s in the driving seat and Jacques has taken the back seat.

Selection-wise, I see the Boks have gone back to the tried and tested. He’s gone for Cobus Reinach, who has experience of playing in France but that experience but on the bench he has Handre Pollard, Willie Le Roux and Faf de Klerk to close out the game, which is massive. You sense that all the social media comments were just a smokescreen to take the focus off the Boks, to leave them to prepare.

One thing in the Boks’ favour is experience. When I coached in 2007, and I told the squad, ‘You’re going to win the World Cup’. I said, ‘Look at Os du Randt, he has won this magnificent tournament’. It was all talk until 20 minutes before kick-off when I saw in their eyes them thinking, ‘he’s won this before, what a massive achievement’.

It’s then you realise what it means to those who want their own piece of history, but then I said, ‘We have one winner, but England have about 13 World Cup winners in their squad and that’s who we’re facing tonight’. I’d say don’t underestimate the value of the experience South Africa have in that changing room. Players who have been there and done it. I don’t think South Africa are worried, because in all but name, this is a World Cup Final, but that home fervour could just swing it for Les Bleus. Whatever happens, it will be a game for the ages.

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Gerald 561 days ago

Jake, zip it and go back and coach the Bulls properly. You and Eddie Jones are coaching capitalists who use past ‘success’ to find jobs without staying long enough to be accountable for the results. Keep quiet and leave those who are coaching properly to get on with it.

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Red and White Dynamight 561 days ago

I wasnt aware he ever took the front seat. Is he the waterboy to The Waterboy ?

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Kabous 561 days ago

I think why Rassie is so much in the fore front is to protect his staff and players. Pretty much how Eddie Jones advised Jake in 2007 to be vocal and in front to to take the heat of his team. Funny that Jake all forgot about that…

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Louis 562 days ago

How much do you pay old Jake for this shite?

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AG 562 days ago

I think the comment that Jacques has taken a back seat, now that ‘the heat is on’ is unwarranted and a bit of clickbait. Rassie is simply allowing the coach to focus on coaching and preparing the team. Going to be a great game. Go boks.

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Nigel 562 days ago

The clown Erasmus's mini me was never anything but a buffer boy for his endless inane, cry baby bleats. Nienaber has the rugby pedigree equivalent to a street cat (and that’s probably a huge insult to street cats, at least they have self esteem).

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CT 562 days ago

Good read thanks,I feel the Boks are going to grab a last minute victory

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Giannis 562 days ago

¨0¨ and Gael Fickou. They look like they’ve played for years together.
Yes three years in Stade Français. 🙄

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Lol you need to shoot your editor for that headline, even I near skipped the article.


France simply need to go to a league format for the Brennus, that will shave two weekends of pointless knockout rugby from their season and raise the competitions standards and mystique no end.


The under age loophole is also a easy door to shut, just remove the lower age limit. WR simply never envisioned a day were teams would target people under the age of 17 or whatever it is now, but much like with Rassie and his use of subs bench, that day was obviously always going to come. I can’t remember how football does it, I think it’s the other way around with them, you can’t sign anyone younger than that but unions can’t stop 17 or 18 yo’s from leaving for a pro club if they want to. There is a transaction that takes place of a few hundred thousand for a normal average player. I’d prefer rugby to be stricter and just keep the union bodies signoff being required.


What really was their problem with Kite and co leaving though? Do we really need a game dominated by Internationals? I even think WR’s proposed calendar might be a bit too much, with at minimum 12 top tier games being played in the World Championship. I think 10 to 12, maybe any one player playing 10 of those 12 is the best way to think of it, for every international team is max, so that they can allow their domestic comps to shine if they want, and other nations like Japan and Fiji can, even some of the home nations maybe, and fill out their calendar with extra tours if they like them as a way to make money. As it is RA don’t have as good a pathway system, so they could simply buy back those players if they turn good. Are they worried they’ll be less likely to? We wait for baited breath for the new season to be laid out in front of us by WR.

It could impose sanctions on the Fédération Française de Rugby, but the body which runs the Top 14 and the ProD2, the Ligue Nationale de Rugby, is entirely independent.

It’s not independent at all. The LNR is a body under, and commissioned by, the FFR (and Government control) to mediate the clubs. FFR can simply install a new club competition if they don’t listen, then you’d see whether the players want to stay at any club who doesn’t tow the line and move to the new competition, as they obviously wouldn’t fall under the auspice of world rugby. They would be rebels, which is fine in and upon itself, but they would isolate themselves from the rest of the game and would need to be OK with that. I have no doubt whatsoever that clubs would have to and want to fall in line to remain part of the EPCR and French rugby. Probably even the last thing they would want is to compete with another French domestic competition that has all the advantages they don’t.


All those players would do good for a few seasons in France, especially the fringe ones, with thankfully zero risk of them being poached if they turn good. New Zealand had a turn at keeping all of it’s talent, and while it upticked the competitiveness of the Super Rugby teams into a total dominance of Australian and South African counterparts (who were suffering more heavily than most the other way at that stage), it didn’t have as positive an effect on the next step up as ensuring young talents development is not hindered does. Essentially NZR flooded the locate market with players but inevitably it didn’t think the local economy could sustain any more pro teams itself, so now we are seeing a normal amount of exodus for the availability of places again. Are Australia in exactly the same footing? I think so, finances where dicey for a while perhaps but I doubt they are putting money constraints on their contracting now. It’s purely about who leaves to open up opportunity.

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