'I don't think there's any reason to change any coach this close to a World Cup'
While a few coaches appear to be under some pressure following the Autumn Nations Series, former Wallaby Morgan Turinui has shared why he believe there’s “no reason” to make a change this close to a World Cup.
International rugby has never been this competitive, and that’s great for the sport, but the expectation for teams to win remains just as intense as it’s always been.
The Autumn Nations Series delivered a number of historic results last month, which have led to some speculation surrounding the futures of a few coaches ahead of the World Cup.
A wounded Wallabies outfit finished their season with an incredible comeback win over Wales in Cardiff, after trailing by as much as 21 points with just over 20 minutes to play.
It was a well deserved victory for the men in gold after a tough run of defeats by three points or less, including losses to the world’s two top ranked sides Ireland and France.
Poor discipline and inconsistent team selections appeared to hurt the Wallabies, who had lost six Tests from eight before heading to Europe.
Speaking on Between Two Posts, broadcaster Sean Maloney asked Turinui if coach Dave Rennie is actually under “real pressure” – and the former Test centre explained why the last month has been a “positive” for the men in gold.
“There’s always pressure, and these things can snowball out of control,” Turinui said.
“Now we look at the five Test spring your and we go win by one to Scotland, lose by one to France, lose by one to Italy, lose by three to Ireland, win by five to Wales.
“We’re a point, three points of the two best in the world.
“The content is enough for me to be positive knowing that there’s some huge lessons to learn around discipline and how to start a Test match effectively, consistency of selection.”
Cardiff’s Principality Stadium burst into a frenzy last weekend as winger Rio Dyer crossed for a try earlier in the second half, and seemingly extended the home sides lead to an unconquerable margin.
Wales had lost to Georgia for the first time ever earlier in the Autumn Nations Series, and they would’ve been eager to bounce back against one of their traditional rugby rivals.
But two yellow cards and a disastrous run of penalties against them helped Australia chip away at the deficit, before the Wallabies took the lead through a Lachlan Lonergan try with less than two minutes to play.
Wales coach Wayne Pivac “was nigh on dead man walking” after the loss against Georgia, but the disappointing collapse against the men in gold may pile on more pressure ahead of the World Cup.
“Wayne Pivac, it was nigh on dead man walking after Georgia. They were one from five in the Six Nations,” Turinui added.
“They beat South Africa in South Africa… they lost that series two-one and then the Georgia is that final stake probably.
“A significant victory against Australia might have helped (but) the way and the manner in which they lost that game, you would think that might be it. We’ve heard talk of Warren Gatland.”
The future of England boss Eddie Jones also appears to be up in the air at the moment, with the Daily Mail reporting that Warren Gatland could potentially replace him.
England lost seven of their 12 Test matches this year, which could possibly see former British and Irish Lions coach Gatland take over if Jones goes.
“I saw Eddie’s quote, which I’ve heard before ‘my fault’, where he sort of apologised and takes responsibility.
“I tell you what England players, these couple of weeks that’s going to cost you. It’ll just mean they’ve got to work harder, he’ll come down harder.
“I don’t think there’s any reason to change any coach this close to a World Cup. If it’s about a World Cup bounce to be better at the World Cup, it probably doesn’t work.
“If you just think you haven’t got the right guy and you might as well start the new regime that’s coming anyway now.
“If I’m England, I’m not getting rid of an experienced coach who has historical success at World Cups.”
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Bold headline considering the Canes and Blues are 1 and 2 and the Brumbies were soundly beaten by the Chiefs and Blues. Biggest surprise is Rebels 4 Crusaders 12 - no one saw that coming. If Aus are improving that’s great 👍
1 Go to commentsAnna, You are right, we need to have patience whilst the others catch up to England and France. Also it is the PWR that has been the game changer for England. the RFU put money into that initially at the expense of the Red Roses. I was sceptical at first but it has paid off in spades.
1 Go to commentsI think Matt Proctor became a 1 test AB in the same fixture. Cameron is quality and has been great this season, can’t believe’s he only 27. Realistically how would he not be selected for ABs squad this year. Only Dmac is ahead of him as a specialist 10. With Jordan out, it will come down to where and when Beauden Barrett slots back in, and where they want to play Ruben Love. Cameron seems an absolute lock in for the wider squad though. Added benefit of TJ-Cameron-Jordie combination at 9, 10, 11 too.
1 Go to commentsFarcical, to what end would someone want to pay to keep this thing going.
1 Go to commentsHavili, our best 12 by a mile, will be in the squad, if he stays fit. JB is the most overrated AB in the last 50 years.
61 Go to commentsWe had during the week twilight footy, twilight cricket, tw golf plus there was the athletics club. Then the weekend was rugby 15s plus the net ball, really busy club scene back then but so much has changed and rugby has suffered. And it was all about changing lifestyles.
6 Go to commentsIn the 70s and 80s my club ran 5 Senior sides plus a Vets. Now it is 2 sides with an occasional 3rd team. Players have difficulty getting to training now, not sure why and the commitment is not there. It seems to me more a problem of people applying themselves and not expecting to turn up and play whenever they want to.
6 Go to commentsROG’s contract is until 2027. The conversation about a successor to Galthie after RWC 2027 may be starting now. We can infer that Galthie’s reign stops then. He is throwing the Irish Coaching Job angle in because he is Irish. The next Irish coach MUST be Leo Cullen. As well as being the best coach available, coaching the vast majority of Irish Internationals week in week out, he has shown incredible skill at recruiting the best coaching staff for the job in hand. That was a failing in France. Cullen is a shrewd guy and if there is a need for foreign coaches underneath him he won’t hesitate. Rightly so. Ireland does need to start to bring Irish coaches through. Not just at the professional level but we need to train coaches to man new pathways for developing kids from schools/clubs up through the divisions.
8 Go to commentsNo Islam says it must rule where it stands Thus it is to be deleted from this planet Earth
18 Go to commentsThis team probably does not beat the ABs sadly Not sure if BPA will be available given his signing for Force but has to enter consideration. Very strong possibility of getting schooled by the AB props. Advantage AB. Rodda/Skelton would be a tasty locking combination - would love to see how they get on. Advantage Wallabies. Backrow a risk of getting out hustled and outmuscled by ABs. Will be interesting to see if the Blues feast on the Reds this weekend the way they did the Brumbies we are in big trouble at the breakdown. Great energy, running and defence but goalkicking/general kicking/passing quality in the halves bothers me enormously. SA may have won the World Cup for a lot of the tournament without a recognised goalkicker but Pollard in the final made a difference IMO. Injuries and retirements leave AB stocks a bit lighter but still stronger. 12 and 13 ABs shade it (Barret > Paisami, Ione = Ikitau, arguably) Interesting clash of styles on the wings - Corey Toole running around Caleb Clark and Caleb running over the top of Toole. Reece vs Koro probably the reverse. Pretty even IMO. 15s Kelleway = Love See advantage to ABs man for man, but we are not obviously getting slaughtered anywhere which makes a nice change. Think talent wise we are pretty even and if our cohesion and teamwork is better than the ABs then its just about doable.
11 Go to commentsCompletely agree. More friday night games would be a hit. RFU to make sure every club has a floodlit pitch. Club opens again Saturday to welcome touch / tag. Minis and youths on Sunday
6 Go to comments1.97m and 105Kg? Proportionately, probably skinnier than me at 1.82 and 82kilos. He won’t survive against the big guys at that weight.
55 Go to commentsThe value he brought to the crusaders as an assistant was equal to what he got out of being there. He reflected not only on the team culture but also the credit he attributed to the rugby community. Such experience shouldn’t be overlooked.
8 Go to commentsGood luck Aussie
11 Go to commentssmith at 9 / mounga 10 / laumape 12 / fainganuku 14
61 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
2 Go to commentsDon’t disagree with much of this but it appears you forgot Rodda and Beale, who started at the Force on the weekend.
11 Go to commentsExcept for the injured Zach Gallagher this would be Saders best forward pack for the season. Blackadder needs to stay at 7, for all of Christies tackling he is not dominant and offers very little else. McNicholfullback is maybe a good option, Fihaki not really upto it, there was a reason Burke played there last year. Maybe Havilli to 2nd five McLeod to wing. Need a strong winger on 1 side to compliment Reece
1 Go to commentsTo me TJ is clearly the best 9 in the competition right now but he's also a proven player off the bench, there's few playmaking players who can come off the bench as calm and settled as he is, Beauden can, TJ can and I doubt any of the scrumhalves in contention can, if they want to experiment with new 9s I want him on the bench ready to step in if they crumble under the pressure. The Boks put their best front row on the bench, I'd like to see us take a similar approach, the Hurricanes have been doing similar things with players like Kirifi.
61 Go to commentsROG has better chance to win a WC if he starts training and make himself eligible as a player. He won’t make the Ireland squad but I reckon he may get close with Namibia (needs to improve his Afrikaans) or Portugal. Both sides had 1000:1 odds to win the RWC in 2023 which is an improvement on ROG’s odds of winning a RWC as a coach. Unlike Top 14 teams, national teams can’t go shopping and buy the best players - you work with the available talent pool and turn them into world beaters.
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