Dead and buried: The must-see Ireland-Pumas rivalry of old is over
Ireland versus Argentina used to be the real thing, a snarling, relentlessly vicious rivalry that was a must-see match-up every time the fixture was renewed. From Lens to Adelaide, to Paris and onto Cardiff at four of five successive World Cups, these countries just got stuck into each other with a fiery determination that highlighted that rugby really isn’t a game for gentlemen.
The red-carded Tomas Lavanini did illustrate this fixture still has a place for villains, but what unfolded here in Dublin was different to the gravy of old. There used to be thrills, spills and bragging rights that was euphorically celebrated due to the keen competitiveness of the clashes, not only at the finals nearly every four years also but in the matches that happened in June or November.
However, this is now a rivalry that can be declared to be past tense given how awful these Pumas were in this 53-7, seven-tries-to-one loss. This was just the third Ireland-Argentina clash since the 2015 World Cup, not the sort of constant tier-one circuit familiarity designed to keep on nurturing a once intoxicating collision.
Then again, judging by the painful poverty that is currently handicapping Argentina rugby, it’s perhaps best that they are a rarity and not a regular on the Ireland dance card. Such is the lack of box office appeal you could have strolled up to the tickets van outside the ground on game day and paid your way in.
Irish rugby fans undeniably love their big fixtures against the likes of the All Blacks, but a sedate Sunday service such as this is very much a take it or leave it situation, especially when the cold afternoon out at the Aviva comes at a very steep price to your wallet. As with the series opener versus Japan, the IRFU set the bar too high with its entry prices.
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It’s not the first series where there have been empty seats but unlike the administrators, this Ireland team under Andy Farrell is demonstrating a likeable likeness to learn from previous errors of its way. Roll the clock back twelve months and there was a deepening gloom about what was unfolding. Georgia had made Ireland look very second rate for long periods of an Autumn Nations Cup clash, Farrell paying a depressing price for making too many changes to his front line selection. This time around, he opted to bring in a rookie like Robert Baloucoune and give him the chance to prosper surrounded by household names rather than pick him in a creche-like XV where too many young kids would be trying to make their way at the same time.
This approach worked a treat in ensuring Ireland maintained winning momentum, stretching their current run to eight, a handsome statistic in sharp contrast to the finger-wagging over Farrell last February after Ireland, in losing to Wales and France, made their worst start to Five/Six Nations championship since 1998.
Encouragingly, the Irish also showed a different type of execution. Compared to the fizz, the vim and the polish of last week’s swaggering dismissal of the All Blacks, a Hollywood-type show where the panache of Jamison Gibson-Park has the backs outside shining just as much as the forwards, things here were a touch more agricultural – something in keeping with the nearby Dublin city streets where protesting farmers were driving their tractors around.
Roll-your-sleeves-up style rugby was the order of the day when it came to dismantling the Pumas, Ireland’s maul the potent weapon that sapped the enthusiasm the visitors would have taken from the third minute try where Mateo Carreras left Tadhg Beirne for dead with the sweetest of steps to come in off the flank and score.
With Ireland having had to make two late changes to their XV, alterations only announced to the crowd with the anthems wrapped up, there was always the possibility of a hiccup in reacting to the sudden readjustment, but that was but a fleeting blip.
Ireland had the win in the bag with their 24-7 interval lead and indiscipline was the second-half narrative, Argentina leaking ten points with Pablo Matera yellow-carded and 19 more points after notorious hitman Tomas Lavanini, branded a scumbag by Peter O’Mahony on the stadium reflink, was red-carded on the hour for his ugly assault on sub Cian Healy.
Argentina got what they deserved, a hammering. As for Ireland, Joey Carbery was alright in his 51-minute No10 audition in the absence of Johnny Sexton but there is a long way to go yet in that area before Farrell can get to the next World Cup knowing things will confidently be alright on the night if Sexton is somehow rendered unavailable again when it most matters.
The Pumas were overjoyed in taking advantage of that situation in 2015, the Japanese likewise in 2019, but in an era where ball carrying is enjoying a far great spread across the Irish forwards, there is a lesser emphasis in playing off ten which can only bode well as the more unpredictable the attack becomes, the greater the chance of achieving at the finals in two years’ time. The future is the concern, not spent rivalries like this versus Argentina.
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I think we are all just hoping that the Olympic 7s doesn’t suffer the same sad fate as the last RWC with the officials ruining the spectacle.
1 Go to commentsPersonally, I’ve lost the will to even be bothered about the RFU, the structure, the participants. It’s all a sham. I now simply enjoy getting a group of friends together to go and watch a few games a year in different locations (including Europe, the championship, etc). I feel extremely sorry for the real fans of these clubs who are constantly ignored by the RFU and other administrators. I feel especially sorry for the fans of clubs in the Championship who have had considerable central funding stripped away and are then expected to just take whatever the RFU put to them. Its all a sham, especially if the failed clubs are allowed to return.
9 Go to commentsI’m guessing Carl Hayman would have preferred to have stayed in NZ with benefit of hindsight. Up north there is the expectation to play twice as many games with far less ‘player management’ protocols that Paul is now criticising. Less playing through concussions means longer, healthier, careers. Carter used as the eg here by Paul, his sabbatical allowed him to play until age 37. OK its not an exact science but there is far more expectations on players who sign for Top 14 or Engl Prem clubs to get value for the huge salaries. NZR get alot wrong but keeping their best players in NZ rugby is not one of them. SA clubs are virtually devoid of their top players now, no thanks. They cant threaten the big teams in the Champions Cup, the squads have little depth. Cant see Canes/Chiefs struggling. Super has been great this year, fantastic high skill matches. Drua a fantastic addition and Jaguares will add another quality team eventually. Aus teams performing strongly and no doubt will benefit with the incentive of a Lions tour and a home RWC. Let Jordie enjoy his time with Leinster, it will allow the opportunity for another player to emerge at Canes in his absence.
4 Go to commentsLove that man, his way to despise angry little men is so funny ! 😂
4 Go to comments“South African franchises would be powerhouses if we had all our overseas based players back in situ. We would have the same unbeatable aura the Toulouses, Leinsters or Saracens of this world have had over the last decade or so.” Proof that Jake white does not understand the economics of the game in SA. Players earning abroad are not going to simply come back and represent the bulls. But they might if they have a springbok contract.
22 Go to commentsA lot of fans just joined in for the fun of it! We all admire O'Gara and what he has done for La Rochelle
4 Go to commentsThe RFU will find a way to mess this up as usual. My bet is there will be no promotion into the the Premiership, only relegation into National League One. Hopefully they won’t parachute failed clubs into the league at the expense of clubs who have battled for promotion.
9 Go to commentsWell that’s the contracts for RG and Jordie bought and paid for. Now, what are the chances we can persuade Antoine to hop over with all the extra dosh we’ll have from living at the Aviva & Croke next season…??? 🤑🤑🤑
14 Go to commentsWow, that’s incredible. Great for rugby.
14 Go to commentsYou probably read that parling is going to coach the wallaby lineout but if not before now you have.
14 Go to commentsIf someone like Leo Cullen was in O’Gara’s place I don’t hear Boo-ing. It’s not just that La Rochelle has hurt Leinster and O’Gara is their Irish boss. It’s the needle that he brings and the pantomime activity before the game around pretending that Munster were supporting LaRochelle just because O’Gara is from Cork. That’s dividing Irish provinces just to get an advantage for his French Team. He can F*ck right off with that. BOOOOO! (but not while someone is lying injured)
4 Go to commentsDid the highlanders party too hard before the game? They were the pits.
1 Go to commentsWhat a player! Not long until he’s in the England side, surely?
3 Go to commentsHe seems to have the same aura as Marcus Smith - by which I mean he’s consistently judged as if he’s several years younger than he actually is. Mngomezulu has played 24 times for the Stormers. When Pollard was his age he had played 24 times for South Africa! He has more time to develop, but he has also had time to do some developing already, and he hasn’t demonstrated nearly as much talent in that time as one would expect. If he is a generational talent, then it must be a pretty poor generation.
6 Go to commentsThe greatest Springbok coach of all time is entirely on the money. Rassie and Jacques have given the south african public a great few years, but the success of the springbok selection policy will need to be judged in light of what comes next. The poor condition that the provincial system is currently in doesn’t bode well for the next few years of international rugby, and the insane 2026 schedule that the Boks have lined up could also really harm both provincial and international consistency.
22 Go to commentsJake White is a brilliant coach and a master in the press. This is another masterclass in media relations and PR but its also a very narrow view with arguments that dont always hold water. White wants his team to win, he wants the best players in SA and wants his team competitive. You however have to face up to the reality of a poor exchange rate and big clubs with big budgets. SA Rugby cant compete and unless it can find more money SA players will keep leaving regardless of Springbok eligibility and this happened in 2015 - 2017. Also rugby is not cricket. Cricket has 3 formats and T20 cricket is where the money is at. When it comes to club vs country the IPL is king but that wont happen because the international calendar does not clash with the club calendar in rugby. So the argument about rugby going down the same path as cricket is really a non-starter
22 Go to commentsNZ rugby seem not to have learnt anything from professional rugby. Super rugby was dying and SA left before they died with the competition. SA rugby did a u turn on their approach to international players playing overseas and such players are now selected for Bok teams. As much as each country would love to retain their players playing in local competitions, this is the way the world is evolving my friends. Move with it or stay 20 years behind the times. One more thing. NZ rugby hierarchy think they are the big cheese. Take a more humble approach guys. You do not seem to have your players best interests at heart.
4 Go to commentsBeaches? In Cardiff? Where?
1 Go to commentsHe is right , the Crusaders will be a threat. Scott Barrett, ( particularly), Fergus Burke , Codie Taylor, ( from sabbatical) etc due back soon for the Crusaders. There are others like Zach Gallagher too. People can right the Crusaders off, Top 8 , here we come !!
1 Go to commentsWe will always struggle for money to match the other sides but the least the WRU can do is invest properly in Welsh rugby. Too much has been squandered on vanity projects like the hotel and roof walk amongst others which will never see a massive return. Hanging the 4 pro sides out to dry over the last decade is now coming back to bite the WRU financially as well as on the pitch. You reap what you sow.
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