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David Campese takes back his Joe Schmidt coaching Australia criticism

Joe Schmidt prior to Australia's recent win over England (Photo by Clive Rose/Getty Images)

The legendary David Campese is preparing to eat humble pie, admitting that Joe Schmidt is proving him wrong as the Wallabies coach. Australia are currently two wins from two on their Autumn Nations Series tour having picked off England and Wales, and they next take on Scotland in Edinburgh this Sunday before concluding with a November 30 clash with Ireland in Dublin.

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Campese was brash in his criticism earlier this year about Rugby Australia’s decision to appoint Schmidt, the New Zealander who assisted the All Blacks to their second place finish at last year’s Rugby World Cup, as the head coach successor to the disastrous Eddie Jones.

The 62-year-old Campese, a 1991 World Cup winner, was adamant following The Rugby Championship that the Wallabies should be coach by an Australian, not a recruit from overseas. “I don’t believe we should have a Kiwi coach,” he claimed after the four-team tournament where Australia finished last after just one win in six matches.

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Wallaby coach Joe Schmidt and captain Allan Alaalatoa

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Wallaby coach Joe Schmidt and captain Allan Alaalatoa

“Joe Schmidt hasn’t won anything. Yes, he might have won a Six Nations (with Ireland), but the World Cup is the ultimate for any sports player or coach, and he hasn’t won anything. We always seem to get a coach that has never won anything. We always seem to get the second-best Kiwi coach, never the first-best.

“Joe Schmidt has got no idea about our culture or history. We’re mauling the ball from 22 metres out. We don’t do that. That’s not Australian rugby. We are used to counterattack and attack from anywhere. We can’t even do that. It’s very sad that we have to go through this again with another Kiwi coach.”

Team Form

Last 5 Games

4
Wins
2
2
Streak
2
26
Tries Scored
16
87
Points Difference
0
4/5
First Try
3/5
3/5
First Points
4/5
4/5
Race To 10 Points
3/5

Less than two months later, though, Campese has now changed his tune after watching the Wallabies beat England 42-37 and Wales 52-20 and has suggested that Rugby Australia should consider tying Schmidt down to a contract extension through to the 2027 Rugby World Cup, a tournament that the Australians will be hosting.

Speaking to Vision4Sport, who offer hospitality packages for rugby’s most iconic events, Campese said: “He [Schmidt] is proving me wrong again. It didn’t start well but the players have responded well to the coach. He seems to be doing a great job. He is only on a two-year deal until after the British and Irish Lions tour next year. He will do everything he can do in that time.

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“It will then be up to the players to take that knowledge on and let’s see who the next coach is going to be. There was a rumour that Schmidt was just a stop gap but who knows. If he carries on with the improvement and they do well against the Lions, then they would have to look at a new deal until the World Cup.”

The Wallabies scored a total of 13 tries in London and Cardiff, playing a brand of rugby that Campese greatly enjoyed. “Don’t get me wrong, I always want the Wallabies to do well. They are part of my DNA. It’s just that over recent years, it has been disappointing and frustrating to see them where they are. As professionals, with the culture and the history, they have proved me wrong and I am very happy about that.

“I want them to do well. They have long had the talent but not the structures. They have demonstrated they can play great rugby and enjoy themselves. I have been a critic but it was always with the thought back to my days and what we had and how we used to train to get to that level.

“The hope is now these guys, with all the resources they get, can be two of three times better than we were. The attitude of the players, the way they play and the way they are backing themselves now. They are spreading the ball wide and have some great attacking players.

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“The only concern is that they are still a bit off in trying to understand what to do when you haven’t got the ball. They all seem to want to score tries from 45 metres out. Sometimes all you need to do is pass the ball and support and chase, that way you might score even more tries.”

Campese signed off with a prediction about how far cross-code new cap Joseph Suaalii can go in rugby union following his arrival from NRL. “What impresses me the most about him is that he is not a selfish player. He got the ball and did what he had to do as a centre with his passing and offloading. He demonstrated that he is a team player.

“Playing at the top level of State of Origin gives you great confidence. Suaalii was at school three years ago. He has learned rapidly and he is only going to get better. Tom Wright is another player from rugby league. He has always been a good player and he is thriving in this new atmosphere and environment.

“So is Len Ikitau. We have four Super Rugby teams and plenty of talent. It’s just been about trying to find the right combinations. Eddie Jones didn’t rate him, but Joe Schmidt does. They are all playing with smiles on their faces which is great. The more you enjoy your rugby the better you are going to play.”

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Werner 15 days ago

Only 4 are actually worth while mentions. Those being Larkham, kiss, Gilmore and Byrne.


Ewen McKenzie and David nuciforas last coaching gigs were both over a decade ago.

Manetti, Bowen and Jim mckay never been in head coach role for 15s at elite level. Potential in a few years maybe?


Dan McKellar got sacked at Leicester for their season efforts and took part in your beloved Rennie's era with the wallabies.


Rod kafer are you serious? His only experience at coaching is doing player coach for part of a year in Saracens 20 years ago. As if anyone would gamble on him to lead the national team.

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Utiku Old Boy 17 days ago

Perhaps you need to change your tune and rather than claim that Kiwis are out to undermine Ozzy rugby, point the finger at your NSW bogey. Or are you the only one who can sort this out? Schmidt seems to be taking players who were underperforming and turning them into a much better functional team from where I am sitting. In many ways, he has made better progress with the Wallabies than Razor has with the ABs - which has been pretty disappointing imo.

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OJohn 17 days ago

Because the two guys primarily in charge of hiring a new coach for Rugby Australia Peter Horne and Phil Waugh, are Tahs. The Chairman of Rugby Australia Daaniel Herbert is from Qld but he's not that bright and weak.

Horne was good friends with Schmidt and they knew if they hired him on a million dollars a year they would own him and he would select Tah players who shouldn't be there . Like Jake Gordon (4th or 5th best halfback in Australia) and similarly for Donaldson). The Tahs are all about being able to brag how many Wallabies they have, even if the Wallabies keep losing because of it. Michael Hooper, the worst Wallaby captain in decades a prime example. He made Taine Randall look great.

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Utiku Old Boy 18 days ago

At least now you are putting up something to back up the moan against Schmidt. The obvious question is why were a combination or a single candidate from this list not named by ARU after Jones? BTW, I don't consider them better than the AB candidates we had on offer but Byrne and Nucifora have coached in NZ - Byrne with the ABs for years.

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Bull Shark 18 days ago

I will consider such. But I think outliers like Rod Macqueen are difficult to plan for and or identify logically.


But I’ll keep an open mind and include Rod Macqueen in my assessment.

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OJohn 18 days ago

Keep in mind Rod MacQueen never won a Super Rugby title before he was appointed Wallaby coach but he ended up the greatest rugby coach the world has ever seen. Better than Erasmus even. Who is probably the next best.

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Bull Shark 18 days ago

Some interesting names there. I’ll spend some time researching their coaching credentials and come back with a well thought out response and avoid jumping to irrational conclusions.


Chat later.

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PA 19 days ago

Campo , why don't you try Coaching?

Give Schmidt a chance to prove himself. Schmidt is a professional Coach who has done the hard yards. Give him the opportunity to prove himself. At present he's on the right track and getting better all the time. Don't bring the fact that he's a Kiwi, that's irrelevant. What's relevant is getting the best performance and results for rugby and Australia.

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OJohn 19 days ago

The nationality of the coach is important to kiwis and south africans and the french.

Not coincidentally the teams in world rugby who play with the most passion.

Why is it not allowed to be important for Australians ?

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Ed Pye 20 days ago

Campo is a classic bandwagon hack

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B 20 days ago

Dave Rennie was starting to build up a Wallabies team who were prepared to play for a Kiwi coach, until he was back stabbed by the ARU for Eddie Jones.

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Mitch 19 days ago

No doubt they liked Rennie but a 38% win record is hard to defend.

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OJohn 20 days ago

No he wasn't. The Wallaby team was going backwards. Just as it did under Robbie Deans.

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Flankly 20 days ago

Fair play to Campo for acknowledging Schmidt success, and that he may not have been right about calling for a coaching change.

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OJohn 20 days ago

He was right. We don't want or need a kiwi coaching the Wallabies. End of story.

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Head high tackle 58 minutes ago
'Razor's conservatism is in danger of halting New Zealand's progress'

I really dont know what the problem is Nick. Cane was immense this year and no one below him demanded the job. TJ perhaps less so but he was always going to start the season at 9 anyway due to the thing they call experience. I think guys like Lakai will have learnt a lot from the likes of Cane and Ill garrantee TJ has helped the Roigard/Ratima/Hothem settle in to their roles much better than they would have had there been no experience around. At the start of 2024 these guys had 3 tests between them. Im glad TJ was around.

The biggest fail area from my pov is centre. Razors lack of desire to change what is clearly failing is a worry. Is he waiting for a full year of SR? Is he not sure? I dont know the answer of course but He fiddled where he shouldnt have and didnt touch the area he should have. WJ at 15 is an experiment. Its not a clear decision yet either. WJ is an amazing attacking player. He isnt an amazing kicker or an amazing decision maker.

The 10 position is being handled very badly too. Its Dmac but BB is constantly in there, Its BB but no 15 to back that up or its no one. GET RID of the centre pairing and get Love in at 15. The backs will function way better. All the players get their SR backs working far better than Razor has gotten, and with no dedicated backs coach in the ABs its a clear problem area.


Also this comparing SA with NZ when 1 side is retaining all their stars and the other side has had some major changes isnt a apples with apples comparison. Imagine comparing a F1 racing team where 1 team was 100% settled and the other was brand new....Just not a comparison worth doing as it proves nothing other than the blatently obvious.

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JW 1 hour ago
'Razor's conservatism is in danger of halting New Zealand's progress'

Razor is compensating, and not just for the Foster era.


Thanks again for doing the ground work on some revealing data Nick.


This article misses some key points points that are essential to this debate though;


Razor is under far more pressure than Rassie to win

Rassie is a bolder selector than Razor, and far more likely to embrace risk under pressure than his counterpart from New Zealand.

It doesn't realise the difficulties of a country like South Africa, with no rugby season to speak of at the moment, to get full use out of overseas internationals

Neither world player of the year Pieter-Steph du Toit nor all-world second row Eben Etzebeth were automatic selections despite the undue influence they exert on games in which they play.

The last is that one coach is 7 years into his era, where the other is in his first, and is starting with a far worse blank slate than where upon South Africa's canvas could be layered onto after 2017.

The spread at the bottom end is nothing short of spectacular. Seventeen more South Africans than New Zealanders started between one and five games in 2024.

That said, I think the balance needs to be at least somewhere in the middle. I don't know how much that is going to be down to Razor's courage, and New Zealands appetite however.


Sadly I think it is going to continue and the problem is going to be masked by much better results next year, even forgotten with an undefeated season. Because even this article appears to misconstruing the..

known quantities

as being TJP and Sam Cane. In the context of what would need to change for the numbers above to be similar, it's players like Jordie Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Sevu Reece, Ethan Blackadder, Codie Taylor, where the reality needs to be meet face on.


On Jordie Barrett at Lienster, I really hope he can be taught how to tackle with a hard shoulder like Henshaw and Ringrose have. You can see in these highlights he doesn't have the physical presence of those two, or even the ones behind him in NZ like ALB and AJ Lam. I can't really seem him making leaps in other facets if he's already making headlines now.

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