'They are tough, nuggety, relentless and ruthless in all areas of the game of rugby' - Kiwi stars dispel the myth about Wallabies not having 'hard men'
Wallabies forwards Taniela Tupou & Lukhan Salakaia-Loto were pressed during their mid-week media conference on comments from the New Zealand media following the loss at Eden Park that the Wallabies didn’t ‘do genuine hard men’.
The two Reds players downplayed the accusation, adding they are focused on trying to win back the Bledisloe Cup and that they are done with the talk. Tupou, in particular, was accused of being ‘nowhere near as tough as he thought’.
“It doesn’t really matter what they say to us, to be honest,” Tupou said. “They don’t know what’s going on here in camp. If that’s what they think, so be it. We’re trying to focus on us. Trying to better ourselves for the next game.
Blues hooker James Parsons and Crusaders halfback Bryn Hall discussed the comments on the latest episode of the Aotearoa Rugby Pod.
“For me, that is going to be posted on a dressing room wall and used as motivation for the Wallabies. There is no bigger shot across the bowel than that,” Parsons warned.
“You’ve said it, Hooper… Hanigan… Slipper… Hooper’s now a 100 [tests], Slipper is close to 100 if not already there… what’s the definition of ‘hard man’ in this article? I don’t know what it is, but those players I’ve played against and they are tough, nuggety, relentless and ruthless in all areas of the game of rugby.
“I don’t know if I even want to give it air time because I just don’t think it warrants it. I think it is to get a click, personally.”
Parsons and Hall added that any team coached by Dave Rennie is going to have a standard of toughness that is a non-negotiable by the former Chiefs coach, and the comments will only inflame motivation within the Wallabies camp.
“It will be up there in that team room, no doubt, especially with a guy like Dave Rennie as coach,” Hall said.
“It will be there Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,” Parsons added.
Bryn Hall also highlighted the intangibles of captain Michael Hooper that definitely meets the definition of a hard man.
“I’m going to use Michael Hooper as an example, if we are going to use the definition of a hard man, that guy right there, the amount of times I’ve seen him impose his will, his tenacity and his courage into a team. That’s the definition of a hard man in my eyes.
“I think if you are looking around ‘being niggly’ and that, Jerome Kaino never did that,” Hall said,
“Would you say Pete Samu is soft? Exactly.”
Host Ross Karl asked the panel whether the comments were more directed at the ‘tough guy’ enforcer-type of hard man who likes to antagonise and pick fights, rather than the type who works hard and puts his body on the line. Karl pointed to the likes of Dane Coles who was involved in the push and shove at the start of Bledisloe 2.
“Well Tupou was the one who bowled him over about five metres backwards before that, so they definitely brought it,” Parsons said, “and you saw fifteen men from each side come in.”
“I think just because of the result, it’s been taken way out of context.”
Listen to the full episode of the Aotearoa Rugby Pod below:
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A wallaby front-row of Bell, Blake and Tupou…now that would be hefty
1 Go to comments“But with an exceptional pass accuracy rating “ Which apart from Roigard is not a feature of any of the other 9s in NZ. Kind of basic for a Black 9 dont.you. think? Yet we keep seeing FC and TJ being rated ahead of him? Weird if it’s seen as vital to get our backline beating in your face defences.
1 Go to commentsThanks BeeMc! Looks like many teams need extra time to settle from the quadrennial northern migration. I think generally the quality of the Rugby has held up. Fiji has been fantastic and fun to watch
13 Go to commentsLets compare apples with apples. Lyon sent weak team the week before, but nobody raised an eyebrow. Give the South African teams a few years to build their depth, then you will be moaning that the teams are too strong.
41 Go to commentsDid footballs agents also perform the scout role at some time? I’m surprised more high profile players haven’t taken up the occupation, great way to remain in the game and use all that experience without really requiring a lot of specific expertise?
1 Go to commentsSuper rugby is struggling but that has little to do with sabbaticals. 1. Too many teams from Aust and NZ - should be 3 and 4 respectively, add in 2 from Japan, 1 possibly 2 from Argentina. 2. Inconsistent and poor refereeing, admittedly not restricted to Super rugby. Only one team was reffed at the breakdown in Reds v H’Landers match. Scrum penalty awarded in Canes v Drua when No 8 had the ball in the open with little defence nearby - ideal opportunity to play advantage. Coming back to Reds match - same scrum situation but ref played advantage - Landers made 10 yards and were penalised at the breakdown when the ref should have returned to scrum penalty. 3. Marketing is weak and losing ground to AFL and NRL. Playing 2 days compared with 4. 4. Scheduling is unattractive to family attendance. Have any franchises heard of Sundays 2pm?
11 Go to commentsAbsolutely..all they need is a chance in yhe playoffs and I bet all the other teams will be nervous…THEY KNOW HOW TO WIN IM THE PLAYOFFS..
2 Go to commentsI really hope he comes back and helps out with some coaching.
1 Go to commentsI think we are all just hoping that the Olympic 7s doesn’t suffer the same sad fate as the last RWC with the officials ruining the spectacle.
1 Go to commentsPersonally, I’ve lost the will to even be bothered about the RFU, the structure, the participants. It’s all a sham. I now simply enjoy getting a group of friends together to go and watch a few games a year in different locations (including Europe, the championship, etc). I feel extremely sorry for the real fans of these clubs who are constantly ignored by the RFU and other administrators. I feel especially sorry for the fans of clubs in the Championship who have had considerable central funding stripped away and are then expected to just take whatever the RFU put to them. Its all a sham, especially if the failed clubs are allowed to return.
10 Go to commentsI’m guessing Carl Hayman would have preferred to have stayed in NZ with benefit of hindsight. Up north there is the expectation to play twice as many games with far less ‘player management’ protocols that Paul is now criticising. Less playing through concussions means longer, healthier, careers. Carter used as the eg here by Paul, his sabbatical allowed him to play until age 37. OK its not an exact science but there is far more expectations on players who sign for Top 14 or Engl Prem clubs to get value for the huge salaries. NZR get alot wrong but keeping their best players in NZ rugby is not one of them. SA clubs are virtually devoid of their top players now, no thanks. They cant threaten the big teams in the Champions Cup, the squads have little depth. Cant see Canes/Chiefs struggling. Super has been great this year, fantastic high skill matches. Drua a fantastic addition and Jaguares will add another quality team eventually. Aus teams performing strongly and no doubt will benefit with the incentive of a Lions tour and a home RWC. Let Jordie enjoy his time with Leinster, it will allow the opportunity for another player to emerge at Canes in his absence.
11 Go to commentsLove that man, his way to despise angry little men is so funny ! 😂
4 Go to comments“South African franchises would be powerhouses if we had all our overseas based players back in situ. We would have the same unbeatable aura the Toulouses, Leinsters or Saracens of this world have had over the last decade or so.” Proof that Jake white does not understand the economics of the game in SA. Players earning abroad are not going to simply come back and represent the bulls. But they might if they have a springbok contract.
24 Go to commentsA lot of fans just joined in for the fun of it! We all admire O'Gara and what he has done for La Rochelle
4 Go to commentsThe RFU will find a way to mess this up as usual. My bet is there will be no promotion into the the Premiership, only relegation into National League One. Hopefully they won’t parachute failed clubs into the league at the expense of clubs who have battled for promotion.
10 Go to commentsWell that’s the contracts for RG and Jordie bought and paid for. Now, what are the chances we can persuade Antoine to hop over with all the extra dosh we’ll have from living at the Aviva & Croke next season…??? 🤑🤑🤑
35 Go to commentsWow, that’s incredible. Great for rugby.
35 Go to commentsYou probably read that parling is going to coach the wallaby lineout but if not before now you have.
17 Go to commentsIf someone like Leo Cullen was in O’Gara’s place I don’t hear Boo-ing. It’s not just that La Rochelle has hurt Leinster and O’Gara is their Irish boss. It’s the needle that he brings and the pantomime activity before the game around pretending that Munster were supporting LaRochelle just because O’Gara is from Cork. That’s dividing Irish provinces just to get an advantage for his French Team. He can F*ck right off with that. BOOOOO! (but not while someone is lying injured)
4 Go to commentsDid the highlanders party too hard before the game? They were the pits.
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