'That was our downfall'- Vunipola on England's lessons from the past
The parallel between England’s upcoming fixtures this month and what they might expect at the Rugby World Cup next year is not something that the team are focussing on according to No.8 Billy Vunipola.
England begin their autumn against Argentina on Sunday at Twickenham followed by Japan a week later, which is the exact same schedule for Eddie Jones’ side in the pool stages in France next year. They then go on to play Chile and Samoa in the pool D, whereas they face the All Blacks and South Africa later this month.
The latter two fixtures are what England could expect later on in the tournament next year, should they progress to the semi-final stage, and what they did indeed encounter in the semi-final and final in 2019. But Vunipola emphasised that the squad are not looking at the World Cup next year, rather they are learning from what he described as their “downfall” in the past.
Speaking to RugbyPass during England’s Jersey training camp last week, where Red Bull worked with the RFU to deliver the latest Misogi training camp ahead of the autumn internationals, the Saracen said: “What’s important this autumn is we could potentially play them all next year at the World Cup. It’s not necessarily about focussing on the World Cup but focussing on us and being adaptable. So the last World Cup, we probably got overpowered by South Africa, and just kept trying to play the way that we wanted and we played the week before, that probably was our downfall. Probably something similar happened in Six Nations against Wales that same year.
“I think for us,” he added. “It’s how can we gel as the group that we could play three or four different ways and adapt to any situation that’s in front of us. Because that’s what’s going to happen in the autumn, and potentially in the World Cup as well.”
England had a fairly sizeable injury list going into the camp, although they have been boosted by the returns of Owen Farrell and Jonny May this week. Some frontline players such as Courtney Lawes still remain unavailable, as the Northampton Saints forward is still experiencing concussion symptoms. Despite the number of absentees, Vunipola said that it only inspired a positive response from the squad.
“I think in terms of losing that amount of experience, you just get tighter as a group,” the 64-cap international said.
“Obviously, there’s the leadership team in place before, so they’ve obviously had meetings about what we can take control of more. And then in terms of other players it’s more about trying to integrate as many as possible in the squad and making sure that we are as prepared as we can be for the first game without knowing if they’re going come back in or not. We’ve just go to try our best as a group to get together and learn the way that England want to play and be prepared for the first game.”
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18 Go to commentsThis team probably does not beat the ABs sadly Not sure if BPA will be available given his signing for Force but has to enter consideration. Very strong possibility of getting schooled by the AB props. Advantage AB. Rodda/Skelton would be a tasty locking combination - would love to see how they get on. Advantage Wallabies. Backrow a risk of getting out hustled and outmuscled by ABs. Will be interesting to see if the Blues feast on the Reds this weekend the way they did the Brumbies we are in big trouble at the breakdown. Great energy, running and defence but goalkicking/general kicking/passing quality in the halves bothers me enormously. SA may have won the World Cup for a lot of the tournament without a recognised goalkicker but Pollard in the final made a difference IMO. Injuries and retirements leave AB stocks a bit lighter but still stronger. 12 and 13 ABs shade it (Barret > Paisami, Ione = Ikitau, arguably) Interesting clash of styles on the wings - Corey Toole running around Caleb Clark and Caleb running over the top of Toole. Reece vs Koro probably the reverse. Pretty even IMO. 15s Kelleway = Love See advantage to ABs man for man, but we are not obviously getting slaughtered anywhere which makes a nice change. Think talent wise we are pretty even and if our cohesion and teamwork is better than the ABs then its just about doable.
11 Go to commentsCompletely agree. More friday night games would be a hit. RFU to make sure every club has a floodlit pitch. Club opens again Saturday to welcome touch / tag. Minis and youths on Sunday
3 Go to comments1.97m and 105Kg? Proportionately, probably skinnier than me at 1.82 and 82kilos. He won’t survive against the big guys at that weight.
55 Go to commentsThe value he brought to the crusaders as an assistant was equal to what he got out of being there. He reflected not only on the team culture but also the credit he attributed to the rugby community. Such experience shouldn’t be overlooked.
5 Go to commentsGood luck Aussie
11 Go to commentssmith at 9 / mounga 10 / laumape 12 / fainganuku 14
54 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
2 Go to commentsDon’t disagree with much of this but it appears you forgot Rodda and Beale, who started at the Force on the weekend.
11 Go to commentsExcept for the injured Zach Gallagher this would be Saders best forward pack for the season. Blackadder needs to stay at 7, for all of Christies tackling he is not dominant and offers very little else. McNicholfullback is maybe a good option, Fihaki not really upto it, there was a reason Burke played there last year. Maybe Havilli to 2nd five McLeod to wing. Need a strong winger on 1 side to compliment Reece
1 Go to commentsTo me TJ is clearly the best 9 in the competition right now but he's also a proven player off the bench, there's few playmaking players who can come off the bench as calm and settled as he is, Beauden can, TJ can and I doubt any of the scrumhalves in contention can, if they want to experiment with new 9s I want him on the bench ready to step in if they crumble under the pressure. The Boks put their best front row on the bench, I'd like to see us take a similar approach, the Hurricanes have been doing similar things with players like Kirifi.
54 Go to commentsROG has better chance to win a WC if he starts training and make himself eligible as a player. He won’t make the Ireland squad but I reckon he may get close with Namibia (needs to improve his Afrikaans) or Portugal. Both sides had 1000:1 odds to win the RWC in 2023 which is an improvement on ROG’s odds of winning a RWC as a coach. Unlike Top 14 teams, national teams can’t go shopping and buy the best players - you work with the available talent pool and turn them into world beaters.
5 Go to commentsthat backline nope that backline is terrible why would you have sevu Reece when he’s not even top 5 wingers in the comp why have Blackadder when there’s better players no Scott barret isn’t an automatic the guy is more of a liability than anything why have him there when you have samipeni who’s far far better
54 Go to commentsAh, good to find you Nick. Agree with everything about Cale. So much to like about his game
55 Go to commentsNot too bad. Questions at 6, lock and HB for me. The ABs will be a lot stronger once Jordan and Roigard return. Also, work needs to be made to secure Frizzell back for next season and maybe also Mo’unga; they’re just wasting time playing in japan
54 Go to commentsOn the title, i wonder for many of those people it is a case something like a belief in working smarter, not harder?
1 Go to commentsForget Sotutu. One of those whose top level is Super Rugby. Id take a punt on Wallace Sititi Finau ahead of Glass body Blackadder.
54 Go to commentsI’m a pensioner so I've been around a bit. My opinion of SBW is he is an elite athlete and a great New Zealander and roll model. He has been to the top and knows what he's talking about. To all the negative comments regarding SBW the typical New Zealand way, cut that tall poppy down.
18 Go to commentsI'm not listening to a guy moralise over others when this is the guy who walked out mid season on Canterbury RLFC when he had a contract with them, what a hypocrite. All the Kiwis sticking up for this unprincipled individual because they can't accept justified criticism, he has zero credibility or integrity. Those praising him are a joke.
18 Go to commentsI’d put Finau at 6 instead of Blackadder but that’s the only change I’d make. Can’t wait to see who Razor picks.
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