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Nine Irish make columnist's first Test British and Irish Lions XV

By Liam Heagney
Tadhg Furlong in action for the 2021 British and Irish Lions (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

Rugby columnist Paul Williams has ignited debate on X by naming a 2025 British and Irish Lions Test team containing nine Ireland players, three from England, two from Scotland and just one Wales player. It will be July 19 next year, following warm-up matches versus Argentina, Western Force, the Reds, the Waratahs, the Brumbies, and an invitational Australian/New Zealand team, when Andy Farrell will send his Lions into their first Test encounter versus the Wallabies in Brisbane.

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The 2023/24 season recently finished with Ireland scoring a one-all series draw away to South Africa. England and Wales, meanwhile, lost out zero-two in their respective series in New Zealand and Australia while Scotland enjoyed a four-game winning streak on their North/South American tour.

With the dust now well settled on those trips, Williams, a Rugby World magazine contributor, has put his head above the parapet and selected the team he wants to see run out at Suncorp Stadium in 48 weeks.

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Wallaby coach Joe Schmidt gets brutally honest about the aspects of the game his team must work on

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Wallaby coach Joe Schmidt gets brutally honest about the aspects of the game his team must work on

It includes an all-Irish front row consisting of Andrew Porter, Dan Sheehan and Tadhg Furlong. Packing down behind them, Williams has chosen a second row pair of Ireland’s Joe McCarthy and England’s George Martin, while his preferred back row combination features Irish duo Tadhg Beirne and Caelan Doris at blindside and No8 respectively with Wales’ sole selection, Jac Morgan, pencilled in at openside.

Switching to the backline, Williams has selected another Anglo-Irish combination, this one consisting of Ireland’s Jamison Gibson-Park at scrum-half and England’s Marcus Smith at out-half. Scotland’s Sione Tuipulotu and Ireland’s Robbie Henshaw are the midfield picks, with Scotland’s Duhan van der Merwe, England’s Immanuel Feyi-Waboso and Ireland’s Hugo Keenan chosen as the back three.

Explaining his choices, Williams wrote on the Rugby World website: “There’s only one job tougher than selecting the actual British and Irish Lions team. And that’s picking your own British and Irish Lions team and publishing it on social media. It many ways it’s worse, as you don’t get the perks of Andy Farrell.

“You don’t get the salary, the car, the expense account, any of the praise should you win the series – or any of that glorious kit stash. As a columnist, all you get for selecting your potential Lions’ squad get is a digital witch trial. So, without further ado, let’s spark up the dry kindling and get burning…”

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After sizing up at length the level of opposition Australia will provide, Williams then gave his reasons for his British and Irish Lions player choices before concluding: “Before you all embark on a journey to Cardiff, to set fire to my possessions, remember one thing. The Lions is a magnificent spectacle and a true gem in the rugby calendar. Most tours are dominated by the lead nation in that cycle, and it has always been that way.

“There have been squads where England have dominated, Wales etc. This time round it’s Ireland’s turn – and they deserve it. They are the best team of the home nations by some distance, and have proven that over multiple seasons. I can’t wait for the tour to start. Please don’t burn my house down.”

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Anendra Singh 18 minutes ago
Scott Robertson has mounting problems to fix for misfiring All Blacks

Okay, fair points in here. Agree Razor isn't transparent. How quickly the climate changes from one regime to another. I'm sorry but when I refer to "human values" I'm alluding to Razor prancing around like a peacock at the 2023 RWC, knowing he had had the job but going there to smirk while Fozz went about his business. What need was there of that when Razor had already got the nod?


Besides, that's why caring employers don't put their employees through that spin-dry cycle following redundancy, although Fozz would have relished the opportunity to ride the waves to redemption. He had come within a whisker. I'm guessing Fozz's contract wouldn't have allowed him to terminate employment, glory of RWC aside. Now, I'm not saying fora second that Fozz was a fine head coach because he had erred like Razor is with selections across the board.


The captaincy debacle is just that, so agree with that. More significantly for me, Barrett has the unenviable record of collecting two red cards in test rugger — the most anyone has. His 2nd test against the Boks was questionable, considering the lock hadn't carried the ball until after the 60th minute. In both Boks affairs, he was hardly visible as a leader.


DMac is a Hobson's choice. You can have a "unique" kicking game but if the others are not on the same page, is it worth anything? Player, selection, and/or head coaching issue? For me it's all 3. I've not religiously watched Super Rugby Pacific matches but I did see how the Fijian Drua had homed in on DMac at The Tron. He was rattled and even started complaining to the ref. That's where we part ways with "aggression". All pooches are ferocious behind their owner's fenced property. DMac enjoys that when he has the comfort of protection from the engine room. The pooch is only tested when it wanders outside the confines of the yard on to the street to face other mongrels. Boks were going to be the litmus test, although no home fan saw the Pumas coming. At best, a bench-minutes player.


Leon MacDonald. Well, besides debating the merits of his prowess as "attacking guru", it doesn't override one simple fact — Razor chose his stable of support coaches. Its starts and ends there. If MacD didn't slot into the equation, Razor is accountable.


Why appoint a specialist when you're not going to listen to him, especially if you have an engine-room background? Having fired him, Razor looks even more clueless now than ever with his backline, never mind attacking. Which raises the pertinent question? Which of his other favoured coaches have assumed the mantle of backline/attacking coach? (Hansen/Ellison?) If so, why is Razor not dangling them over burning coals?


"His [MacD's] way might be great for some team, maybe in another country, and with the right people." Intriguing because he has led his team in his own country's premier competition to victory against a number of franchise players who are in the ABs squad that had failed to make the cut after a rash of losses and Razor's "home". You see, it's such anomalies that make the prudent question the process. All it does is make Razor look just like another member of the old boys' network. Appreciate the engagement.

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JWH 1 hour ago
Wallabies' opportunity comes from smaller All Black forwards and unbalanced back row

Ethan Blackadder is a 7, not an 8. No point in comparing the wrong positions. 111kg and 190cm at 7 is atrociously large.


Cane + Savea are smaller, but Savea is certainly stronger than most in that back row, maybe Valetini is big enough. I don't think Cane is likely to start this next game with Ethan Blackadder back, so it will likely be Sititi, Savea, Blackadder.


Set piece retention + disruption, tackle completion %, and ruck speed, are the stats I would pick to define a cohesive forward pack.


NZ have averaged 84.3% from lineout and 100% from own scrum feed in their last three games against top 4 opponents. Their opponents averaged 87.7% from the lineout and 79.7% from own scrum feed.


In comparison, Ireland averaged 85.3% from lineout and 74.3% from own scrum feed. Their opponents averaged 87.7% from the lineout and 100% from the scrum.


France also averaged 90.7% from lineout (very impressive) and 74.3% from own scrum feed (very bad). Their opponents averaged 95.7% from lineout (very bad) and 83.7% from scrum.


As we can see, at set piece NZ have been very good at disrupting opposition scrums while retaining own feed. However, lineout retention and disruption is bang average with Ireland and France, with the French pulling ahead. So NZ is right there in terms of cohesiveness in lineouts, and is better than both in terms of scrums. I have also only used stats from tests within the top 4.


France have averaged 85.7% tackle completion and 77.3% of rucks 6 seconds or less.


Ireland have averaged 86.3% tackle completion and 82.3% of rucks 6 seconds or less.


NZ have averaged 87% tackle completion and 80.7% or rucks 6 seconds or less.


So NZ have a higher tackle completion %, similar lineout, better scrum, and similar ruck speed.


Overall, NZ seem to have a better pack cohesiveness than France and Ireland, maybe barely, but small margins are what win big games.

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