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'New Joubert in town': Questions over Telea's match-winning try left unanswered
Scotland fans have been left with a bitter taste after giving up a 23-14 point lead to fall to the All Blacks at Murrayfield.
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A historic victory beckoned for the Scots after the side recovered from a 14-0 deficit to score 23 unanswered points but left a host of opportunities out there as numerous turnovers were had attacking the All Blacks line.
Scotland had multiple try scoring opportunities go begging as the All Blacks loose forwards secured holding on penalties at crucial times.
Many Scottish fans felt the turning point was a yellow card for a ‘deliberate’ knock-on when Australian-convert Jack Dempsey stuck an arm out for an attempted intercept.
Reduced to 14-men, the All Blacks scored two tries while Dempsey was off the park including Mark Telea’s second try which many felt deserved a second look from the TMO with questions left unanswered over the put down.
Savea's run makes Scotland bite in, Ioane somehow gets his hands free and offloads to Telea for his 2nd try of the game.
A dagger so late in the game to Scotland's hopes.#SCOvNZL pic.twitter.com/rnZqrJ71G5
— EK Rugby Analysis (@ek_rugby) November 13, 2022
The try was awarded on-field without a second look at Telea’s placement, which saw the ball bounce up into his chest area as he dove over.
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Scotland fans felt it was necessary to have a second look, writing the put down was ‘never in control’ and a ‘suspect grounding’.
After seeing a replay of the try on the big screen as Jordie Barrett lined up his kick, fans at the ground ‘screamed blue murder’ according to another fan.
Telea never in control of the ball 😂 wow #SCOvNZL
— Lukhanyo Am Stan Account (@GoTeamGoSports1) November 13, 2022
Not a deliberate knock on, NZ last try suspect grounding, Graham tripped in last few minutes, Scotland persistently penalised on the line, NZ not in similar circumstances. Farce. There's a new Joubert in town. #SCOvNZL #TheRugby
— Steven Burns (@stevenroyburns) November 13, 2022
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Funny moment from yesterday was when the crowd, normally dead silent in this part of the world during a kick, saw the replay of the last ABs try and thought Telea knocked on, and proceeded to scream blue murder while Jordie nailed the game-sealing sideline conversion #SCOvNZL
— Max Power 🇺🇦 (@jrodbourn) November 14, 2022
#SCOvNZL Loved seeing Scotland come back after the first 10 minutes, and they played much better than in previous matches. Last Mark Telea try didn't have the ball under control, though. Why didn't the ref check? Just asking to learn. Can he not question after awarding?
— Sue (@kizzy1lucy) November 13, 2022
#SCOvNZL once again scotland undone by poor refereing decisions. Never a deliberate knock on and dropped the ball for the last try. Big teams always have to win eh…
— Elmer (@ElmerFudd1978) November 13, 2022
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1 Go to commentsSuper rugby is struggling but that has little to do with sabbaticals. 1. Too many teams from Aust and NZ - should be 3 and 4 respectively, add in 2 from Japan, 1 possibly 2 from Argentina. 2. Inconsistent and poor refereeing, admittedly not restricted to Super rugby. Only one team was reffed at the breakdown in Reds v H’Landers match. Scrum penalty awarded in Canes v Drua when No 8 had the ball in the open with little defence nearby - ideal opportunity to play advantage. Coming back to Reds match - same scrum situation but ref played advantage - Landers made 10 yards and were penalised at the breakdown when the ref should have returned to scrum penalty. 3. Marketing is weak and losing ground to AFL and NRL. Playing 2 days compared with 4. 4. Scheduling is unattractive to family attendance. Have any franchises heard of Sundays 2pm?
10 Go to commentsAbsolutely..all they need is a chance in yhe playoffs and I bet all the other teams will be nervous…THEY KNOW HOW TO WIN IM THE PLAYOFFS..
2 Go to commentsI really hope he comes back and helps out with some coaching.
1 Go to commentsI think we are all just hoping that the Olympic 7s doesn’t suffer the same sad fate as the last RWC with the officials ruining the spectacle.
1 Go to commentsPersonally, I’ve lost the will to even be bothered about the RFU, the structure, the participants. It’s all a sham. I now simply enjoy getting a group of friends together to go and watch a few games a year in different locations (including Europe, the championship, etc). I feel extremely sorry for the real fans of these clubs who are constantly ignored by the RFU and other administrators. I feel especially sorry for the fans of clubs in the Championship who have had considerable central funding stripped away and are then expected to just take whatever the RFU put to them. Its all a sham, especially if the failed clubs are allowed to return.
9 Go to commentsI’m guessing Carl Hayman would have preferred to have stayed in NZ with benefit of hindsight. Up north there is the expectation to play twice as many games with far less ‘player management’ protocols that Paul is now criticising. Less playing through concussions means longer, healthier, careers. Carter used as the eg here by Paul, his sabbatical allowed him to play until age 37. OK its not an exact science but there is far more expectations on players who sign for Top 14 or Engl Prem clubs to get value for the huge salaries. NZR get alot wrong but keeping their best players in NZ rugby is not one of them. SA clubs are virtually devoid of their top players now, no thanks. They cant threaten the big teams in the Champions Cup, the squads have little depth. Cant see Canes/Chiefs struggling. Super has been great this year, fantastic high skill matches. Drua a fantastic addition and Jaguares will add another quality team eventually. Aus teams performing strongly and no doubt will benefit with the incentive of a Lions tour and a home RWC. Let Jordie enjoy his time with Leinster, it will allow the opportunity for another player to emerge at Canes in his absence.
10 Go to commentsLove that man, his way to despise angry little men is so funny ! 😂
4 Go to comments“South African franchises would be powerhouses if we had all our overseas based players back in situ. We would have the same unbeatable aura the Toulouses, Leinsters or Saracens of this world have had over the last decade or so.” Proof that Jake white does not understand the economics of the game in SA. Players earning abroad are not going to simply come back and represent the bulls. But they might if they have a springbok contract.
22 Go to commentsA lot of fans just joined in for the fun of it! We all admire O'Gara and what he has done for La Rochelle
4 Go to commentsThe RFU will find a way to mess this up as usual. My bet is there will be no promotion into the the Premiership, only relegation into National League One. Hopefully they won’t parachute failed clubs into the league at the expense of clubs who have battled for promotion.
9 Go to commentsWell that’s the contracts for RG and Jordie bought and paid for. Now, what are the chances we can persuade Antoine to hop over with all the extra dosh we’ll have from living at the Aviva & Croke next season…??? 🤑🤑🤑
34 Go to commentsWow, that’s incredible. Great for rugby.
34 Go to commentsYou probably read that parling is going to coach the wallaby lineout but if not before now you have.
14 Go to commentsIf someone like Leo Cullen was in O’Gara’s place I don’t hear Boo-ing. It’s not just that La Rochelle has hurt Leinster and O’Gara is their Irish boss. It’s the needle that he brings and the pantomime activity before the game around pretending that Munster were supporting LaRochelle just because O’Gara is from Cork. That’s dividing Irish provinces just to get an advantage for his French Team. He can F*ck right off with that. BOOOOO! (but not while someone is lying injured)
4 Go to commentsDid the highlanders party too hard before the game? They were the pits.
1 Go to commentsWhat a player! Not long until he’s in the England side, surely?
5 Go to commentsHe seems to have the same aura as Marcus Smith - by which I mean he’s consistently judged as if he’s several years younger than he actually is. Mngomezulu has played 24 times for the Stormers. When Pollard was his age he had played 24 times for South Africa! He has more time to develop, but he has also had time to do some developing already, and he hasn’t demonstrated nearly as much talent in that time as one would expect. If he is a generational talent, then it must be a pretty poor generation.
6 Go to commentsThe greatest Springbok coach of all time is entirely on the money. Rassie and Jacques have given the south african public a great few years, but the success of the springbok selection policy will need to be judged in light of what comes next. The poor condition that the provincial system is currently in doesn’t bode well for the next few years of international rugby, and the insane 2026 schedule that the Boks have lined up could also really harm both provincial and international consistency.
22 Go to commentsJake White is a brilliant coach and a master in the press. This is another masterclass in media relations and PR but its also a very narrow view with arguments that dont always hold water. White wants his team to win, he wants the best players in SA and wants his team competitive. You however have to face up to the reality of a poor exchange rate and big clubs with big budgets. SA Rugby cant compete and unless it can find more money SA players will keep leaving regardless of Springbok eligibility and this happened in 2015 - 2017. Also rugby is not cricket. Cricket has 3 formats and T20 cricket is where the money is at. When it comes to club vs country the IPL is king but that wont happen because the international calendar does not clash with the club calendar in rugby. So the argument about rugby going down the same path as cricket is really a non-starter
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