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McBryde comments about Welsh regional rugby have touched a raw nerve in his native lands
Leinster forwards coach Robin McBryde has touched a nerve in Wales after an interview he gave on the BBC’s Welsh rugby podcast, Scrum V, in which he questioned how successful the regional set-up had been.
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McBryde joined Leinster in 2019 following Wales’ fourth-place finish in the Rugby World Cup. Since then he has had a ringside seat on how perennial champions Leinster operate, yet he didn’t limit his praise for his employers, admitting he was jealous of how professional rugby has been embraced in Ireland in general.
“What I’m envious about is the rugby in general in Ireland, when you look at how well supported the four provinces are,” said the former Wales hooker.
McBryde, a former Llanelli and later Scarlets hooker who played over 250 games for his region, suggests that the regional model in Wales has failed to connect with fans. McBryde, who is helping prepare Leinster for a match with his former side this weekend, pointed out how Welsh rugby has struggled to attract fans in anything like the numbers enjoyed in Ireland.
“I think they were very lucky and very fortunate in that those four provinces were already established when professional rugby came in, so your borders were already set I suppose, whereas in Wales we have struggled with it, haven’t we?
“I still know supporters who haven’t gone back to watching rugby since regional rugby came into being.
“That model, from a supporting point of view, is clearly not working, is it?
“You look at the attendances in those games and they are struggling and they have been struggling for a while.”
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McBryde was capped 37 times in an eleven-year international career for Wales and played in the 2003 Rugby World Cup. A no-nonsense forward who prided himself on the set-piece, he was called up to the British and Irish Lions tour in 2001 but had to withdraw due to injury. He was also part of the 2005 Grand Slam-winning Wales team.
McBryde claims the Welsh regions don’t have the sense of identity that exists for the Irish provinces, who have been in existence long before the advent of professional rugby.
“We have lost that sort of connection and maybe the regions have lost that identity or maybe didn’t have that identity right from the word go really.
Former Wales forwards coach Robin McBryde says the Welsh regions "aren't working" from a supporting point of view ? pic.twitter.com/FgW4xJ1bIy
— BBC ScrumV (@BBCScrumV) January 28, 2021
“It’s a big thing here with Leinster with regards to having that identity and that link with the public and the supporters. There’s a lot of emphasis on driving the legacy.
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“Ultimately when you’ve got a really strong identity, that can carry you as a team and make up for a lot of deficiencies. It’s fantastic when you see the crowds that turn up week-in, week-out to watch rugby.”
“It’s questionable whether regional rugby has ever taken off.
“I don’t think we’re going to go back to the clubs, but I think there’s room for the Premiership in there because of the history attached to all of those clubs.
“They’re already formed so I think they should make that league as strong as possible and use it as a breeding ground for young talent. I know what the club system gave me.”
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26 Go to commentsYou know he can land a winning conversion after the full time siren is up. (Even if it takes two attempts.)
5 Go to commentsA very insightful article from Jake. I would love to know how South African’s feel about their move to Europe. Do you prefer playing in Europe or want to go back to Super Rugby?
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1 Go to commentsA very well thought out summary of all the relevant complications…agree with your ”refer the Cricket Test versus 20/20 comparison”. More also definitely doesn't necessarily mean better!
2 Go to commentsMust be something when you are only 19 y.o and both NZ and France want you. Btw he wasn’t the only new caledonian in french U20 as Robin Couly also lived in Noumea until 17. Hope he’s successful wherever he chooses to play.
7 Go to comments“Several key players in the Stade Rochelais squad are in their thirties” South Africans are going to hate the implications of that comment!
5 Go to commentsI know Leinster did a job on La Roche but shortly after HT Leinster were 30-13 ahead of them and at a similar time Toulouse were trailing Exeter. At 60 mins Leinster were 27 ahead but after 67 mins Toulouse were only 19 ahead before Exeter collapsed. That’s heavier scoring by Leinster against the Champions. I think people are looking at Toulouses total a little too much. I also think Northhampton are in with a real chance, albeit I’d put Leinster as favourites. If Leinster make the final I expect them to win by more than ten and with control.
5 Go to commentsHey Nick, your match analysis is decent but the top and tail not so much, a bit more random. For a start there’s a seismic difference in regenerating any club side over a test team. EJ pretty much had to urinate with the appendage he’d been given at test level whereas club success is impacted hugely by the budget. Look no further than Boudjellal’s Toulon project for a perfect example. The set ups at La Rochelle and Leinster are like chalk and cheese and you are correct that Leinster are ahead. Leinster are not just slightly ahead though, they are light years ahead on their plans, with the next gen champions cup team already blooded, seasoned and developing at speed from their time manning the fort in the URC while the cream play CC and tests. They have engineered a strong talent conveyor belt into their system, supported by private money funnelled into a couple of Leinster private schools. The really smart move from Leinster and the IRFU however is maximising the Irish Revenue tax breaks (tax relief on the best 10 years earnings refunded at retirement) to help keep all of their stars in Ireland and happy, while simultaneously funding marquee players consistently. And of course Barrett is the latest example. But in no way is he a “replacement for Henshaw”, he’s only there for one season!!! As for Rob Baxter, the best advice you can give him is to start lobbying Parliament and HMRC for a similar state subsidy, but don’t hold your breath… One thing Cullen has been very smart with is his coaching team. Very quickly he realised his need to supplement his skills, there was talk of him exiting after his first couple of years but he was extremely shrewd bringing in Lancaster and now Nienaber. That has worked superbly and added a layer that really has made a tangible difference. Apart from that you were bang on the money… 😉😂
5 Go to commentsNot sure exactly what went wrong for him at Glasgow but it’s pretty clear he ain’t Franco’s cup of tea. Suspect he would have been better served heading out of Scotland around the same time as Finn, Hoggy and Jonny!
1 Go to commentsBulls disrespected the Northampton supporters and the competition. Decide quickly, fully in or out.
26 Go to commentsI wonder if Parling was ever on England’s radar as a coach? Obviously Borthwick is a great lineout coach, but I do worry he might be taking on too much as both head coach and forwards coach.
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5 Go to commentsTrue Jordie could earn a lot more in Japan. But by choosing Leinster he’ll be playing with 1 of the best clubs in the world and can win a champions cup and URC…..
6 Go to commentsThanks for that Marshy, noticed you didn't say who is gonna win it. We know who ain't gonna win it - your Crusaders outfit. They've gone from having arguably the best Super Rugby first five ever, to having a clutch of rookies. Hurricanes all the way!
1 Go to commentsGeez you really have to question the NRLs ability to produce players of quality. Its pathetic. Dont the 25mil in Aus produce enough quality womens players. Sad.
1 Go to commentsBulls fan here, and agree 100% with the conclusion (and little else) of this article. SA sides should absolutely f-off from the champs cup until we get fair scheduling, equal support for travel arrangements and home semis. You know, like all the european teams get.
26 Go to commentsI’m yet to see why Grace would be an ABs contender. He’s pedestrian and lacks the dominance required of a top flight 8.
11 Go to commentsGee my Highlanders were terrible. They have gone backwards since the start of the season. The trouble began when we left Millar behind to prep as the 10 against the Brumbies and he was disconnected from the team that came back from Aussie. We rested Patchell for that game and we blew an avalanche of ball in good attacking positions in the 1st half. Against the Rebels we seem to of gone into a pod system with forwards hanging off from the breakdown leaving Fakatava to secure our ball!
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