'I'm going to say it frankly - Bath need to get rid of Hooper'
Rugby Pod co-hosts Jim Hamilton and Andy Goode have doubled down on the criticism voiced earlier this season about Bath boss Stuart Hooper, believing the director of rugby needs to be moved on from The Rec as soon as possible if things are to improve at the bottom place Gallagher Premiership club.
Gloucester humiliated Bath last Saturday at Kingsholm, their 64-0 win smashing records all over the place. It was the latest setback in a haphazard Bath campaign featuring multiple setbacks and although Hooper is set to stay on as director of rugby for the 2022/23 season with Johann van Graan set to come in as the new head coach from Munster, Hamilton and Goode believe now is time for Hooper to step aside.
Ex-Scotland lock Hamilton, who played against Bath in numerous derbies during his Gloucester career, went as far as to compare the current struggle under Hooper with what happened at Leicester with Geordan Murphy as their rookie director of rugby following his stellar career as a player at that club.
Murphy’s November 2020 exit helped to unshackle the influence of new head coach Steve Borthwick and 18 months later, Leicester are now on top of the Premiership and preparing to host Leinster in a Heineken Champions Cup quarter-final this Saturday.
The situation at hapless Bath came up for discussion early in the latest episode of The Rugby Pod, with Hamilton quickly warming to the topic. “I have played in a few of the games. The build-up to those games home and away for Gloucester… it was everything. It was absolutely everything because of the derby and the history between the two.
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“We have gone hard at Bath, we have gone hard at Hooper before (on The Rugby Pod). Hooper called me out about going hard at him and having a joke. I am going to say it frankly and I feel awful saying it because it is easy to judge and say you would be doing this, you should be doing that – Bath need to get rid of Hooper, they do.
“You don’t want to draw comparisons but you have to. Leicester made a huge, huge call. I know Geordie walked effectively, however that looked, whether he was pushed, walked. I don’t think Bath will sack Stuart Hopper because of what he has done for the club (but) you can’t play like that to a man. Bath were fully loaded in that game, or what they thought was fully loaded.
“We are talking about Bath, one of the biggest clubs in England, and you are talking about one of the biggest games on the calendar and it’s 64-0. Now I don’t know what they will do with Stuart Hooper. He is a young bloke, he is a young coach, played against him, respect him massively but you have got to say how it is. Look at what Leicester did with Geordie Murphy and look at where Leicester are now.”
Goode agreed with Hamilton but took issue with one particular remark. “It was a disgrace. Sam Underhill was the only one to me that was relentless and putting effort in and then they take him off after 60-odd minutes… I am with you, Jim. You said Stuart Hooper has got to go and you are like, ‘Oh, he has done a lot for the club’. I don’t know what he has done for the club. I really don’t.”
Hamilton reacted: “As a player. He put a lot in the jersey as a player.”
This reply didn’t sit well with Goode. “Okay, but that is ten years ago. You can only be judged on the job you are doing, not the job you used to do as a player which is a completely different job. And let’s pick up on the words of (Exeter boss) Rob Baxter last week, he said there are a lot of clubs towards the bottom of the Premiership that have been going through a reset for ten years. Bath shocking.
“They have got to one Premiership final, they used to be one of the biggest clubs in the Premiership, they have been nowhere. A lot of it probably boils down to the owner and how he runs things. You hear horror stories about Bruce Craig watching training trying to pick the team, trying to be in the changing rooms. He is a fan with money and he has got a lot of it and he has put a lot of it in the club, so you respect him for that but Stuart Hooper is his yes man effectively.
“They need a clean sweep, Stuart Hooper has got to go, give it to van Graan. The other issue is it’s their biggest ever defeat. Their chairman, what a joke of a bloke he is as well, Ed Griffiths. It’s a shocking place to be at the minute. They need some huge changes and Stuart Hooper has to go because of it.
“Unfortunately that is professional sport and there is no sentiment anymore, there is no loyalty. If you are doing a bad job, why do you keep getting employed? It sounds harsh but they are the facts of life in any job in the world.”
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A wallaby front-row of Bell, Blake and Tupou…now that would be hefty
1 Go to comments“But with an exceptional pass accuracy rating “ Which apart from Roigard is not a feature of any of the other 9s in NZ. Kind of basic for a Black 9 dont.you. think? Yet we keep seeing FC and TJ being rated ahead of him? Weird if it’s seen as vital to get our backline beating in your face defences.
1 Go to commentsThanks BeeMc! Looks like many teams need extra time to settle from the quadrennial northern migration. I think generally the quality of the Rugby has held up. Fiji has been fantastic and fun to watch
13 Go to commentsLets compare apples with apples. Lyon sent weak team the week before, but nobody raised an eyebrow. Give the South African teams a few years to build their depth, then you will be moaning that the teams are too strong.
41 Go to commentsDid footballs agents also perform the scout role at some time? I’m surprised more high profile players haven’t taken up the occupation, great way to remain in the game and use all that experience without really requiring a lot of specific expertise?
1 Go to commentsSuper rugby is struggling but that has little to do with sabbaticals. 1. Too many teams from Aust and NZ - should be 3 and 4 respectively, add in 2 from Japan, 1 possibly 2 from Argentina. 2. Inconsistent and poor refereeing, admittedly not restricted to Super rugby. Only one team was reffed at the breakdown in Reds v H’Landers match. Scrum penalty awarded in Canes v Drua when No 8 had the ball in the open with little defence nearby - ideal opportunity to play advantage. Coming back to Reds match - same scrum situation but ref played advantage - Landers made 10 yards and were penalised at the breakdown when the ref should have returned to scrum penalty. 3. Marketing is weak and losing ground to AFL and NRL. Playing 2 days compared with 4. 4. Scheduling is unattractive to family attendance. Have any franchises heard of Sundays 2pm?
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2 Go to commentsI really hope he comes back and helps out with some coaching.
1 Go to commentsI think we are all just hoping that the Olympic 7s doesn’t suffer the same sad fate as the last RWC with the officials ruining the spectacle.
1 Go to commentsPersonally, I’ve lost the will to even be bothered about the RFU, the structure, the participants. It’s all a sham. I now simply enjoy getting a group of friends together to go and watch a few games a year in different locations (including Europe, the championship, etc). I feel extremely sorry for the real fans of these clubs who are constantly ignored by the RFU and other administrators. I feel especially sorry for the fans of clubs in the Championship who have had considerable central funding stripped away and are then expected to just take whatever the RFU put to them. Its all a sham, especially if the failed clubs are allowed to return.
10 Go to commentsI’m guessing Carl Hayman would have preferred to have stayed in NZ with benefit of hindsight. Up north there is the expectation to play twice as many games with far less ‘player management’ protocols that Paul is now criticising. Less playing through concussions means longer, healthier, careers. Carter used as the eg here by Paul, his sabbatical allowed him to play until age 37. OK its not an exact science but there is far more expectations on players who sign for Top 14 or Engl Prem clubs to get value for the huge salaries. NZR get alot wrong but keeping their best players in NZ rugby is not one of them. SA clubs are virtually devoid of their top players now, no thanks. They cant threaten the big teams in the Champions Cup, the squads have little depth. Cant see Canes/Chiefs struggling. Super has been great this year, fantastic high skill matches. Drua a fantastic addition and Jaguares will add another quality team eventually. Aus teams performing strongly and no doubt will benefit with the incentive of a Lions tour and a home RWC. Let Jordie enjoy his time with Leinster, it will allow the opportunity for another player to emerge at Canes in his absence.
11 Go to commentsLove that man, his way to despise angry little men is so funny ! 😂
4 Go to comments“South African franchises would be powerhouses if we had all our overseas based players back in situ. We would have the same unbeatable aura the Toulouses, Leinsters or Saracens of this world have had over the last decade or so.” Proof that Jake white does not understand the economics of the game in SA. Players earning abroad are not going to simply come back and represent the bulls. But they might if they have a springbok contract.
24 Go to commentsA lot of fans just joined in for the fun of it! We all admire O'Gara and what he has done for La Rochelle
4 Go to commentsThe RFU will find a way to mess this up as usual. My bet is there will be no promotion into the the Premiership, only relegation into National League One. Hopefully they won’t parachute failed clubs into the league at the expense of clubs who have battled for promotion.
10 Go to commentsWell that’s the contracts for RG and Jordie bought and paid for. Now, what are the chances we can persuade Antoine to hop over with all the extra dosh we’ll have from living at the Aviva & Croke next season…??? 🤑🤑🤑
35 Go to commentsWow, that’s incredible. Great for rugby.
35 Go to commentsYou probably read that parling is going to coach the wallaby lineout but if not before now you have.
17 Go to commentsIf someone like Leo Cullen was in O’Gara’s place I don’t hear Boo-ing. It’s not just that La Rochelle has hurt Leinster and O’Gara is their Irish boss. It’s the needle that he brings and the pantomime activity before the game around pretending that Munster were supporting LaRochelle just because O’Gara is from Cork. That’s dividing Irish provinces just to get an advantage for his French Team. He can F*ck right off with that. BOOOOO! (but not while someone is lying injured)
4 Go to commentsDid the highlanders party too hard before the game? They were the pits.
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