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'I was stopped in the street': Steve Borthwick claps back at boastful New Zealand public

England huddle after losing the International Test Match between New Zealand All Blacks and England at Eden Park on July 13, 2024 in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Phil Walter/Getty Images)

England head coach has clapped back at the boastful New Zealand public who stopped him “at least 10 times a day” to tell him how much the All Blacks would smash England by.

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After coming within one play of a draw at Eden Park, Borthwick remained proud of what his younger England side are building and the way they defied the expectations of New Zealand fans.

Two try assists by Marcus Smith on cross-field kicks to Immanuel Feyi-Waboso and Tommy Freeman gave the visitors a 14-13 lead at half-time.

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England led the All Blacks 17-13 with a quarter of the game to go, and ended up one play away from coming away with a draw.

“A lot of people were saying after the first Test that New Zealand were going to get so much better,” Borthwick explained in his post-match review.

“I’ve been told by people in the street about 10 times a day how much we were going to get blown away at Eden Park.

“I was stopped in the street yesterday by a gentlemen who told me that they’d unpicked our rush defence, they knew how we were going to beat it, and I said ‘ok thank you for that’.

“I was told in the lift today that it was a privilege for us to play at Eden Park and we’d be lucky to get away with less than 50 points conceded.

“And the team just kept coming at New Zealand today and just kept fighting.

“When the team went down 24-17, some teams wouldn’t have come back like these guys did.

“Get back to the New Zealand line and try hard to get the seven points for that draw. That’s great credit to them, and I’m very proud to work with them.”

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“A lot of people were writing us off.”

On whether Borthwick’s England team had earned the respect of the Kiwi public, Borthwick was unconcerned and said he was more focused on getting his team where they needed to be.

“My concern is firstly with the players being proud of their efforts themselves, and I think they should be,” he siad.

“England rugby supporters of the team are making me proud. My job is to keep making sure I help this team develop, I think we’ve got a lot of work to do, I don’t shy away from that.”

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The England head coach clarified that the banter with New Zealand fans was all in good manner and he and the squad have “loved” being in New Zealand, with many players on their first tour to the country.

“I think what a brilliant country to come in tour in, you have that passion for rugby. We’ve thoroughly enjoyed it, we’ve been here just under three weeks and it’s been a phenomenal few weeks here,” he said.

“The players, the whole management team, have loved being in this fabulous country. To have people so passionate about this incredible sport, it is brilliant.

“Obviously in England we have that passion, but we also have a lot of competing sports.

“I will reiterate how much we have loved being in New Zealand, how we’ve been welcomed in New Zealand, even the stopping in the street has been done in a good manner.

“Getting trapped in the lift, it’s done in a good manner by passionate New Zealand supporters.”

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cw 6 hours ago
The coaching conundrum part one: Is there a crisis Down Under?

Thanks JW for clarifying your point and totally agree. The ABs are still trying to find their mojo” - that spark of power that binds and defines them. Man the Boks certainly found theirs in Wellington! But I think it cannot be far off for ABs - my comment about two coaches was a bit glib. The key point for me is that they need first a coach or coaches that can unlock that power and for me that starts at getting the set piece right and especially the scrum and second a coach that can simplify the game plans. I am fortified in this view by NBs comment that most of the ABs tries come from the scrum or lineout - this is the structured power game we have been seeing all year. But it cannot work while the scrum is backpeddling. That has to be fixed ASAP if Robertson is going to stick to this formula. I also think it is too late in the cycle to reverse course and revert to a game based on speed and continuity. The second is just as important - keep it simple! Complex movements that require 196 cm 144 kg props to run around like 95kg flankers is never going to work over a sustained period. The 2024 Blues showed what a powerful yet simple formula can do. The 2025 Blues, with Beauden at 10 tried to be more expansive / complicated - and struggled for most of the season.

I also think that the split bench needs to reflect the game they “want” to play not follow some rote formula. For example the ABs impact bench has the biggest front row in the World with two props 195cm / 140 kg plus. But that bulk cannot succeed without the right power based second row (7, 4, 5, 6). That bulk becomes a disadvantage if they don’t have a rock solid base behind them - as both Boks showed at Eden Park and the English in London. Fresh powerful legs need to come on with them - thats why we need a 6-2 bench. And teams with this split can have players focused only on 40 minutes max of super high intensity play. Hence Robertson needs to design his team to accord with these basic physics.



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