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Harlequins and England set to lose fight for budding star to Ireland

Hayden Hyde scores a try during the Premiership Rugby U18s Academy Finals Day match between Harlequins and Sale Sharks at Allianz Park. (Photo by Naomi Baker/Getty Images)

Harlequins have been no stranger to the early talent identification of the Irish Rugby Football Union, the provinces and the Irish Exiles program.

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In 2015, Sam Arnold, a product of Cranleigh School and the Harlequins academy, made the move to Ulster straight out of school and has since gone on to join Munster, which propelled him to his international debut against the USA at the end of last year.

In 2016, lock Kieran Treadwell made the same move from Guildford to Belfast, joining Ulster after having spent a couple of seasons in Harlequins’ senior academy, as well as having represented England U20s. The second row has made himself a valuable member of the Ulster squad, something which has helped him win three caps for Ireland, despite fierce competition in the engine room.

RugbyPass understand that the next name to join Arnold and Treadwell in taking this path across the Irish Sea is set to be promising centre Hayden Hyde.

Hyde is currently in Harlequins’ junior academy as he finishes up his final year at Cranleigh and RugbyPass understand that the Gallagher Premiership side were keen to retain him, but it seems as if the lure of Ulster and the pathway to the national team in Ireland has proven too strong for him to turn down.

A former back rower, Hyde has set himself apart at U18 level with his physical and incisive running in the midfield, as well as a developing passing game and ability to keep phases alive after breaks.

Should the move be confirmed, Hyde will find himself battling it out with the likes of Will Addison, Darren Cave and Luke Marshall for the 13 jersey next season at the Kingspan and would offer another physical option in the long-term, alongside the robust duo of Stuart McCloskey and Jacob Stockdale.

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Hyde was briefly included in an England U18 training squad earlier this season, but was removed shortly after the team was named. He had previously represented the Ireland U19 side last season when he was still an U17 and there’s an outside chance he could feature for the Grand Slam-winning Ireland U20 side at the World Rugby U20 Championship in Argentina this summer.

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LL 53 minutes ago
Deon Fourie accuses Leinster of unsportsmanslike conduct

I thought the ref (not one I had seen before) was quite good, particularly with the scrums. He explained his decisions well, possibly a bit pernickity but fair all round. A neutral ref is obviously preferable. I don't know why Craig Evans was not made ref but I suspect it is because it was Craig Evans. Almost anyone than him would have been preferable.

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DC 1 hour ago
Kepu Tuipulotu: 'I just thought England was the correct pathway for me'

Argentina i think field exclusively Argentine players.

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JJB 1 hour ago
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Who sung the Nz anthems tonight? they were really cool

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Bull Shark 2 hours ago
Scott Robertson has to take charge of his All Blacks in 2025

I rated the Foster AB team then as better than the Razor team last year.

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GH 2 hours ago
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Really added to the legend last yesr didnt they?

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Timmyboy 3 hours ago
Kepu Tuipulotu: 'I just thought England was the correct pathway for me'

They should stop calling them national teams and stop national anthems. Half the people lining up for modern teams are foreign. Here’s a Tongan lad living in wales playing for England. Nothing against him personally and fair play to him he’s doing what he’s allowed. But the whole setup these days is a shambles. I think the only team left who’s players are actually their nationality is South Africa.

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Ed the Duck 3 hours ago
Deon Fourie accuses Leinster of unsportsmanslike conduct

There was a WELSH ref on the touch line!!!!!

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AO 3 hours ago
Deon Fourie accuses Leinster of unsportsmanslike conduct

Firstly let me be clear, the stormers would have lost the game even with a "fair" referee, in northern hemisphere conditions, slow, lot's of kicking into touch, not too many counter attacks, if you cannot do the basics like a line-out, you will never win. For me the bad calls were at the rucks and scrums. Some in the line-out, but not enough to justify the poor performance by the stormers in that department. The better team won, there is no question about that. If the same rules applied to both sides at the ruck, and the stormers were given the benefit for a dominant scrum, I think they would have felt they were in the game and who knows it might have been closer. For me the ref killed the game as a contest, and it was probably one of the worst games to watch, no flow, very stop start, poor execution both sides. In my opinion the best refs are English, French, Italian/Geogian, with the odd New Zealander to boot in more or less that order. For me a good referee is a consistent referee, they don't have to get every call right, they are human and cannot see everywhere, but if they are consistent the players can adapt. But the Stormer's in-ability to play in Europe, still in season 3, and they seem to be getting worse means there is something big they have to fix first, before complaining about the ref.

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Ed the Duck 3 hours ago
Deon Fourie accuses Leinster of unsportsmanslike conduct

So what? The ref was poor, and occasionally against Leinster too!


You haven’t answered the core question: why put an IRISH ref in charge of an IRISH team playing in IRELAND when there was a welsh ref on the touch line?


Ps not a Stormers fan. Not a bok either!

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NB 3 hours ago
Why factory-fitted scrum-halves are pouring off the French production line

Kicks are a very accurate way to measure impact on play or play-making. Simple.


Passes not such a good tool because the #9 nearly always passes from the base first.


Don't worry JW, we'll get you there on the stats understanding front - though at the current rate you might to redo a few semesters in college😆

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NB 3 hours ago
Why factory-fitted scrum-halves are pouring off the French production line

True Fourche got pinged for going straight through the Leinster scrum too, in a real show of dominance. Ironic.

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NB 3 hours ago
'Defence has become an afterthought in the Premiership - and England may fall upwards as a result'

He hasn't lied to the best of my knowledge.

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NB 3 hours ago
'Defence has become an afterthought in the Premiership - and England may fall upwards as a result'

Not an outlier because it is typical of so many EP defence results in the comp. Read article before replying!

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NB 3 hours ago
'Defence has become an afterthought in the Premiership - and England may fall upwards as a result'

This is the way the game is supposed to be played now. I applaud Leicester, I hope it has paid dividends for them this year with their discipline.

The hold-up tackle has not been banned JW, it's just needs to be more precise than it was. You still see over a hundred of em in every game.

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JJ OMalley 3 hours ago
Deon Fourie accuses Leinster of unsportsmanslike conduct

What "biased" calls where there? I was at the game, and near some Stormers fans who didn't seem to have any problems. I also watched it back, and I would say that it was fairly balanced, and the only issue I saw was him not giving a yellow. Stormers were offside nearly every phase, and it wasn't called once.


Also, I know it is easy to lump all of Ireland in together, but Munster people wouldn't exactly be favouring Leinster, and the ref is from Munster.

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CV 4 hours ago
Steve Hansen: This is the year we see what Razor's All Blacks are made of

Start watching the Top14, they won't be heavily weakened. Out of La Rochelle, Toulon, Bordeaux and Toulouse, two won't make the final. Those are all teams that would easily win SR. The strength and depth they have is phenomenal.. Toulouse lost four games already in the Top14 this season, only one with a weakened side. That's how strong the Top14 is.

They played 75 players in tests last year, the boks 53. How many did Razor put on the park? We'd be in trouble if we lose key players. Too many of us Kiwis are stuck in the amateur age where we played the same seven countries over and over and we were the most fanatical one. That ship has sailed.

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AO 4 hours ago
Deon Fourie accuses Leinster of unsportsmanslike conduct

Do you seriously think that makes up for all the biased calls? So he did not give yellows so he was OK. I personally believe that the team should take the ref out of the game, and individual calls should not determine the outcome. But I am sorry but no team would have been able to get into the game with the way he was penalizing one side, and allowing the other team to do exactly the same thing. The Stormers started poorly, got some bad calls, and yes never got into the game after that. Stormers should have been better, but Busby and Cross are not good enough to ref a school game in my opinion. Andrew Brace not much better.

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JW 5 hours ago
Scott Robertson has to take charge of his All Blacks in 2025

I feel like he'd be too happy to select people from overseas and tank the ABs as a result. I mean you gotta do it to find out, but nah, I certainly don't have enough confidence in him to give him that sort of freedom.

smith 100% plays 9 and mounga 100% plays 10

Haha yep you sound like a Razor clone, run his players into the ground without developing the next gen and tanking 2027 WC as a result.


Yes, AJ Lam was that player this year.


That's when DMac is also the biggest liability. Forced to be the playmaker is the best way he can contribute being such a tiny bloke.


That was actually one of the reasons I liked the older age bracket, it attracts the youth and also gives them somewhere to go after hs, something to capitilize on, as currently it all just dies out without an immediate or obvious step. It helps to remove a bit of the seriousness as well, which can be misplaced at that age. Sure it might be older kids that look upto it but I wouldn't change hs footy at all. Agreed though, its about the only place left with that sort of tribalism so you wouldn't want to destroy it. As there wouldn't be more than a dozen university teams hs should definitely still have cause to retain it's high following.


Haha it would certainly be cool being in that particular environment with some influence. I had a mate who worked there and said it wasn't great, but that was under the guy that got kicked out. University rugby is that stepping stone you're after 😉 thank me once you're able to pay for my time and expertise!

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JJ OMalley 5 hours ago
Deon Fourie accuses Leinster of unsportsmanslike conduct

What about the 3 warnings for penalties inside the 22 against the Stormers, and failing to produce a yellow card when they continued?


He was more than fair to the Stormers, but as usual for a South African teams, you lose you moan.


Half the team in blue were kids, and Leinster had 6 backs on the pitch for 25 minutes, and 5 for 10 mins, but the Stormers had thrown in the towel by then.

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JJ OMalley 5 hours ago
Deon Fourie accuses Leinster of unsportsmanslike conduct

It was supposed to be an Italian ref, but due to a severe storm in Ireland on Friday, one of the worst they have ever had, he could not travel into the country. The Irish Ref was a replacement.


And, by the way, I would say he was more than fair to the Stormers. He gave them three consecutive warnings of "Do that again, and someone goes to the bin" for penalties in the 22, and failed to give the yellow when they did it again.

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