Ex-All Blacks would not have captain Sam Cane starting at openside
All Blacks captain Sam Cane is one of the first names picked in the starting XV under head coach Ian Foster, but three ex-All Blacks would have a different openside in the No 7 jersey if they were selecting the team.
Former All Blacks Sir John Kirwan, Jeff Wilson and Mils Muliaina all picked Blues captain Dalton Papalii as their preferred All Black openside on this week’s episode of The Breakdown when discussing the make up of the loose forwards in the All Blacks.
All three had Hurricanes captain Ardie Savea pencilled in at No 8, while they all picked different blindside flankers at No 6. Muliaina was the only one to pick Cane in his starting side, albeit in a new position at No 6.
“I’ve left him there because I think Papalii is out-and-out the in form seven,” Muliaina explained of the selections.
“So don’t move him out of position, or number change and move him in to No 6. I want him there [at openside].
“Sam Cane comes in there [at No 6] for a reason, and that is, turnover ball. He is 10th in the competition at turnover ball, I want him there for that. Papalii isn’t in the top 20 [for turnovers], but he does feature in running metres, tackles.
“He’s number one or two in terms of the number of tackles he makes, so there is a balance in terms of that.
“Ardie Savea, carry metres and post-contact metres as well, so there is a rounded game there.”
Wilson wasn’t prepared to put Cane at blindside, instead calling on Chiefs lock Tupou Vaa’i to provide the size that is needed across the back row.
As a hybrid lock-blindside, Vaa’i adds a legitimate jumping option into the mix. Wilson believed that Vaa’i was a more superior candidate for that role than Crusaders lock Scott Barrett, who has been tried there for the All Blacks in the past.
“Sam Cane didn’t feature on my list, but he’s well and truly in my squad,” Wilson told The Breakdown.
“I am purely going on that he is an out-and-out No 7 for me, at international level I know what is going to give us.
“Dalton Papalii has delivered for the last 12 months for the Blues and the All Blacks, he needs an opportunity to see whether or not he can take it to the next level.
“That’s why I’ve got him in that position. If he’s not available, Sam Cane is starting for me.
“I’m looking at a different balance with Tupou Vaa’i at blindside flanker. I want size. I want someone who is going to bring us a different type of mentality at blindside flanker, similar to Shannon Frizell.
“I want a one-two punch in that position. I don’t believe Scott Barrett gives us that now. Akira Ioane has still got work to do to get back to where he showed he can be.”
However, Kirwan believed Ioane deserved to hold onto the role as the incumbent in the position from 2021. Ioane has returned from injury in the latter stages of Super Rugby Pacific and has shown damaging form against the Australian sides.
Kirwan said he possesses the kind of “X-factor” that can unlock the All Blacks’ attacking potential in partnership with Savea, who is another strong carrier of the ball.
“I’ve always liked loose forwards with balance. What we get with Akira is actually that out-and-out X-factor. He can make a difference,” Kirwan said.
“He’s a current incumbent at No 6. I think the balance with him and Ardie, who gives us that ability to have turnover but also carry the ball.
“I just think, we want to play an expansive game, we want to be really threatening in our attack, I would like to see that mix. Dalton Papalii, Akira Ioane and Ardie Savea. It’s a great mix.”
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Wasnt late. Ref 2 assistants andTMO all saw it so who are you to say it was?
3 Go to commentsAre the Brumbies playing the Blues twice in a row?
3 Go to commentsBig difference from the Saders. Forwards really muscled up and laid a solid platform. Scooter brought some steel and I liked the loosie combination. Newell has been rather disappointing this season but stepped up big time - happy also to see Franks dot down. He should do that more often! Reihana had a good game and there seems to be more flair and invention with him in the saddle. McNicoll plays well from the back and is reliable plus inventive when he joins the line. Keep it up chaps!
3 Go to comments🤦♂️🤣 who cares who’s the best . All I know is the All Blacks have the star coach but have few star players now …
30 Go to commentsJe suis sûr que Farrell est impatient de jouer avec Lopez et Machenaud et d’être entraîné par Collazo… 🤭
1 Go to commentsAn on field red (aka a full red) in SRP must surely carry a bigger suspension than a red card given by the bunker as that carries a 20 minute team punishment. Had Damon Murphy abdicated his responsibility as a ref and issued both Drua players a yellow, which would have been upgraded to a 20 minute red by the bunker, that would have killed Australia and New Zealand’s push for the 20 minute red to be trialled globally from July this year.
11 Go to commentsEver so often you all post a Danny Care story that isn’t the announcement that he has finally re-signed for one more, victory tour season at Quins and I’m just like, “well you fooled me again!” My absolute favorite player ever, we need to make his final year at the Stoop (and Twickers) official already. I know he supposedly snubbed France but I won’t feel better until he signs.
1 Go to commentslate hit what late hit it wasn’t at all late and can clearly see he was committed before the tackle
3 Go to commentsChristian Lio -Willies 2 try perfomance was a standout. As was captain Scott Barrett. Up front was where the boys won it.They are a great team and players. Fantastic Crusaders , you can keep going.
3 Go to commentsI don't know how the locals feel about that? I guess if you call yourselves the Worcester Wasps that might be appease. But really we need more teams in the Premiership in my view so they are not padding it out as they are at the moment. It might curtail so many players going abroad as well
5 Go to commentsNZ 😭😭😭is certainly rivaling England for best whingers cup!😭😭😭 !!!
30 Go to commentsYup. New Zealand won 3 out of 10 world cups played. SA 4 out of 8 attempts 30 Vs 50 per cent.🤔🤔
30 Go to commentsShould've done this years ago. Change Saturday kick off times to around 11am. Up and off and back home before 3pm, limit travel time too. Allows players to actually do something else with their Saturday that's family oriented or being rugby fans they could ‘watch’ pro rugby. Increases crowds etc. How can anyone that enjoys grassroots and pro rugby have to choose between the two on Saturdays?
9 Go to commentsI bet he inspired those supporters just as much.
1 Go to commentsBen Smith Springboks living rent free in his head 😊😂
67 Go to commentsGood to hear he would like to play the game at the highest level, I hadn’t been to sure how much of a motivator that was before now. Sadly he’s probably chosen the rugby club to go to. Try not to worry about all the input about how you should play rugby Joey and just try to emulate what you do on the league field and have fun. You’ll limit your game too much (well not really because he’s a standard athlete like SBW and he’ll still have enough) if you’re trying to make sure you can recycle the ball back etc. On the other hard, you can totally just try and recycle by looking to offload any and everywhere if you’re going to ground 😋
1 Go to commentsThis just proves that theres always a stat and a metric to use to justify your abilities and your success. Ben did it last week by creating an imaginary competition and now you did the same to counter his argument and espouse a new yardstick for success. Why not just use the current one and lets say the Boks have won 4 world cups making them the most successful world cup team. Outside of the world cup the All Blacks are the most successful team winning countless rugby championships and dominating the rankings with high win percentages. Over the last 4 years statistically the Irish are the best having the highest win rate and also having positive records against every tier 1 side. The most successful Northern team in the game has been England with a world cup title and the most six nations titles in history. The AB’s are the most dominant team in history with the highest win rate and 3 world cups. Lets not try to reinvent the wheel. Just be honest about the actual stats and what each team has been good at doing and that will be enough to define their level of success.
30 Go to commentsHow is 7’s played there? I’m surprised 10 or 11 man rugby hasn’t taken off. 7 just doesn’t fit the 15s dynamics (rules n field etc) but these other versions do.
9 Go to commentsPick Swinton at your peril A liability just like JWH from the Roosters Skelton ??? went missing at RWC
14 Go to commentsLike tennis, who have a ranking system, and I believe rugby too, just measure over each period preceding a world cup event who was the longest number one and that would be it. In tennis the number one player frequently is not the grand slam winner. I love and adore the All Blacks since the days of Ian Kirkpatrick when I was a kid in SA. And still do because they are the masters of running rugby and are gentleman on and off the field - in general. And in my opinion they have been the majority of the time the best rugby team in the world.
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