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Bok legend weighs in on haka, sends message to fans ahead of Cape Town

By Ian Cameron
TJ Perenara of New Zealand (R) leads the haka during The Rugby Championship match between New Zealand All Blacks and Argentina at Eden Park on August 17, 2024 in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Dave Rowland/Getty Images)

Former Springboks captain John Smit has weighed in on the debate surrounding the haka and the respect afforded to it by South African fans.

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The controversy reared its head again during Saturday’s Rugby Championship match between South Africa and New Zealand in Johannesburg, where the Springboks secured a dramatic 31-27 victory at Emirates Airline Park.

The match itself was a thriller with the Boks trailing by ten points with just ten minutes remaining. Late tries from replacements Kwagga Smith and Grant Williams turned the game in favour of the home team.

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All Black coach Scott Robertson and captain Scott Barrett review the loss to the Springboks

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All Black coach Scott Robertson and captain Scott Barrett review the loss to the Springboks

The All Blacks managed to score four tries compared to the Springboks’ three – but it was the Boks who had the last laugh. The home side only led the match for a total of nine minutes, but they ended up being the minutes that mattered.

Much of the focus of the post-match discussion on social however shifted from the game itself to the pre-match events and specifically the treatment of the haka.

During the haka an aeroplane flyover and loud chanting from the home crowd drowned out the traditional Maori war dance. It’s a spectacle that traditionally commands silence and respect from those in attendance and it’s ruffled feathers in NZ.

2007 Rugby World Cup winning captain John Smit expressed his disappointment over the handling of the haka at Ellis Park, posting on X: “What a test match, but my only disappointment was the noise made and music being played during the haka. It’s a privilege to watch and hear for player and fan alike; please let’s respect it in Cape Town…”

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The vast majority of replies to his post on X were in agreement.

“100% agree, JS. It was a timing error, not planned is the word. But still a very bad look. So much respect between the two teams and nations. There should be an official apology from someone in the event planning team,” wrote one fan, while another pointed out: “Couldn’t agree more. Not sure if the Springbok players on the day would agree to that interference of the Haka from management, or whoever [is] responsible. Great post cap”.

Not all fans were in agreement with Smit’s take on the controversy, however.

One fan wrote: “Our house our rules. They should be glad we allow them a couple of minutes of our time to perform their dance. We have better things to do with our time.”

How the Cape Town Stadium crowd react to the haka this coming weekend will now no doubt be a talking point this week.

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JS 17 days ago

If people want to go and pick flies of the proverbial then the Springbok Impi warriors must also go by the wayside. Making noise during the Haka, booing during a game and a penalty kick is tacky and uncalled for. I personally dont care for the Haka but it holds a particular emotional and traditional place in New Zealand culture. It should be respected. If we want to play rugby against the All Blacks we need to respect their customs and traditions. Kill the AB's with kindness instead of getting their backs up.

Lets play rugby and get away from all these side shows.

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Axe 17 days ago

Hope the same happens In CT SA need a home ground advantage. If you want a talk to ancestors do that in NZ.

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lm 17 days ago

Lets hope the AB's Haka their faces in Cape Town!.

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OJohn 17 days ago

There is no reason why the rest of world rugby needs to be respectful towards the haka. It's boring.

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Forward pass 17 days ago

Welcome to country in Aus is 2000 times worse. Us Kiwi's sit quietly and show respect tho. Why even show respect to the refs? Why respect the laws of the game? Boring!

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Bull Shark 17 days ago

I seem to recall SA stadiums singing Ole in response to the haka for some time now.


But I do agree. The stadium music could have been stopped for the haka - but as too how the crowd responds to the haka I don’t think JS should be dictating. Fans are there to have a good time.

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Terry24 18 days ago

After the RWC 2023 QF NZ players abused and isnulted Irish players and spectators. No offer of apology was made beyond the manager, captain and NZ supporters intimating that the Irish deserved it.


Looks like a timing issue with the flyover and when the Haka was supposed to take place. Sh1t happens. Get over yourselves.


PS: Is the compere guy is the same guy who sings "Lets go Lions. Lets go!!" during the URC?

If so he is a f**king legend. My kids kept singing that when Irish teams were playing Lions in Ellis Park. I ended up joining them. Him and his Mic should be given free reign to respond to the Haka in real time. Now that would be classic!

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Linton 18 days ago

Ruffled feathers in NZ? Rubbish. It's a challenge, you can do what you like in return. No kiwi that I know gives a sh.t.

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Terry24 18 days ago

Good to hear. I agree.

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WK 18 days ago

I've now heard from a couple of people who were at the game. They say that the music and fireworks had been timed to coincide with the Emirates Plane's flyover. What happened is that the ABs took a bit of time to honour the passing of the Maori King, which wasn't in the schedule. The result is that the Haka took place late and clashed with the flyover/music/fireworks.

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Forward pass 17 days ago

Yeah coz every one who has ever flown in a plane knows they cannot run a second late and cannot be delayed at all. Also clear is the basic and simple fact that DJs and fireworks have to go off at the exact same time every day.

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MB 18 days ago

That’s interesting. Thanks for the information.

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Wayneo 18 days ago

All this is doing is winding up the Joburg hillbillies to go even harder the next time the AB's play at Ellis Park.

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Forward pass 17 days ago

Perhaps NZ wont!

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Jacque 18 days ago

Same thing with stadium Dj's around SA. They wanna play MUSIC during EVERY break in the game. We come for the rugby NOT the music.

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SteveD 17 days ago

Totally agree. But then we're talking about the Ou Transvaal. And Loftus too. Just hope they don't do the same thing down here in the Cultured Cape on Saturday. Mind you, if it happened in the middle of the Horrible Haka...

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WW 18 days ago

Sport as it is in moderns times is entertainment and keeping the crowd motivated, very American if you ask me, but that's what we have to deal with along with the " kaka".

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