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LONG READ 'Expect the unexpected' - Ireland v France big match preview part one

'Expect the unexpected' - Ireland v France big match preview part one
4 days ago

Expect the unexpected. It was the big theme of my correspondence with Sir Graham Henry immediately prior to a momentous World Cup final in 2011 between the All Blacks and France. The All Blacks had overcome the same opponents at the pool stage comfortably, but a final against New Zealand’s bête noir from the same tournament four years earlier was always going to be very different.

By the denouement, New Zealand hopes were hanging by a thread and Ted’s fingernails had been worn down to the bone. It will be the same when France meet Ireland in the first round of the Six Nations this Thursday. Those who expect an automatic repeat of Les Bleus’ 42-27 rout of the then-champions last year will leave Stade de France disappointed. They may even leave empty-handed.

The final scoreline suggests an overwhelming win, but one year before, Ireland had returned the compliment with a thumping 38-17 victory at Stade Velodrome in Marseille. There are no mulligans in this fixture. Expect the unexpected.

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The atmosphere of uncertainty is heightened by the toxic background of two demanding mid-year tours in July. Fabien Galthié’s France squad visited New Zealand without most of their top players after a punishing league schedule. Many of them featured in the Top 14 final between Stade Toulousain and Union Bordeaux-Bègles on 28 June, only one week before the first Test in Dunedin.

Galthié was caught between a rock and a hard place. If he had been able to pick the 23-man matchday squad which finished the Six Nations with a win over Scotland, 21 of those players would have exceeded one or both of his player welfare guidelines of 25 games and/or 2000 minutes played. As it was, the so-called ‘B’ team which pitched up at the Forsyth-Barr Stadium still contained 17 players who broke the same rules.

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A hugely weakened France were beaten three times by New Zealand in July despite their valiant efforts (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

Valiantly as the French supremo tried to stitch a new team together around a new set of player-welfare red-liners – Mickael Guillard, Hugo Auradou, Nolann Le Garrec, Gael Fickou and Theo Attissogbe – for the three-Test series in the land of long white cloud, the attempt was doomed to failure from the start. Les Bleus lost 3-0, and that as much as anything cost them a winning momentum in November.

France were shattered in the second half of their opening fixture against the 14-man world champion Springboks, and they never pieced together a dominating, comprehensive performance thereafter.

Where Galthié has to rediscover his best team all over again, Ireland head coach Andy Farrell must cope with the physical and emotional backwash of a British and Irish Lions tour. The Lions add yet another performance peak to the annual calendar, and the subsequent season is notorious for generating more than its fair share of long-term injuries.

The most recent Professional Game Partnership agreement between the RFU and Premiership Rugby stipulated player involvements should be reduced from 35 to 30 games per season – and ‘involvement’ means ‘any time spent on the field’. An iceberg of physical and mental preparation belies even a last-minute minute substitution. The research was undertaken at the University of Bath and funded by the Rugby Players Association, and the study found 31 or more match involvements resulted in a significantly higher injury rate in the following season.

Take a snapshot of some of the big players from the last Lions tour, and they exceed those guidelines by a distance: England skipper Maro Itoje with 2483 playing minutes and 33 appearances under his belt, Finn Russell with 2736 minutes and 36 match involvements, Tadhg Beirne with 2530 and 33.

No fewer than 18 Irishmen featured on that 2025 tour, and Farrell has coyly admitted his current injury list is “a bit larger than normal”. Andrew Porter, Finlay Bealham, Tadhg Furlong, Mack Hansen, Hugo Keenan and Jamie Osborne among the Lions fraternity; Paddy McCarthy, Jack Boyle, Ryan Baird, Tom Ahern, Robbie Henshaw, Calvin Nash, Jimmy O’Brien, Jordan Larmour, Shayne Bolton and Shayne Bolton in the wider squad beyond them.

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Ireland’s first choice loosehead Andrew Porter is out through injury (Photo By Seb Daly/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

It is not just the physical impact of being stretched to the limit, there is a powerful psychological ripple effect too. Bundee Aki was one of Farrell’s emotional talismans and chief lieutenants on the Lions tour, but the 35-year-old was recently banned for six weeks [with two weeks suspended for two years] after being found guilty of behaviour towards the match officials which ‘constituted verbal abuse and disrespect’.

Expect the unexpected. The gamekeeper turned poacher, but that loss of discipline is another kick-back from the physical and mental overload of a Lions tour. The ban means one of the pillars of Irish success under Farrell will be missing for both of the crunch games against France in Paris in round one, and England at Twickenham in round three.

Meanwhile France have lost one of their own bedrock players to a shock retirement. The 150kg La Rochelle prop Uini Atonio was forced to give up the game after being hospitalised last week following a ‘cardiac event’. The smiling giant had pulled out of La Rochelle’s match against Clermont on Sunday after experiencing chest pains, and he withdrew from Galthié’s squad for the game against Ireland the following day.

Expect the unexpected. With Atonio’s heir apparent Tevita Tatafu still slowly working his way back from a long injury lay-off, the loss of Atonio leaves less a man-shaped foxhole, and more of a shell-sized crater on the right side of the French front row. The ex-Wesley College captain was being relied on to exploit an Ireland front row lacking all of its three leading loose-head props: Porter, McCarthy and Boyle.

Without him, Les Bleus will probably have to cycle back to the duo who were selected against South Africa, Clermont’s Regis Montagne and Dorian Aldegheri. With Jean-Baptiste Gros and Julien Marchand filling out the remainder of the front row, and Charles Ollivon and Guillard partnering at lock, it is not a tight five that is likely to cause even Ireland’s depleted forwards too many sleepless nights.

Back in November, the French forwards failed to gain ascendancy over a seven-man Springbok pack in any single physical aspect of the game. Not at scrum, not at maul, not at the breakdown or on the carry. The Springboks made 63 more total metres and 33 more post-contact metres than the home side, with 20% more dominant carries. Their scrum won more penalties, their breakdown won more pilfers and their lineout was 100% perfect, even after the caller Lood de Jager departed for good. Notably, South Africa head coach Rassie Erasmus never felt the need to add an eighth forward to the mix after De Jager left the field in the 38th minute.

France have no obvious replacement for Atonio. Aldegheri has been an asset for his club Toulouse without ever nailing down the number three spot at national level. The jury is still out on Montagne after the series in New Zealand and three games in November.

In the Top 14, tight-heads are allowed to angle in with impunity. When they are forced to stay straighter for longer at the level above, they are vulnerable to either the ‘pinch’ or the wheel.

The first clip is Aldegheri versus Ox Nche at the 2023 World Cup, the second is Montagne against Boan Venter two years later. The outcome is the same, with both having to pop out of the roof of the scrum to relieve the pressure from the Springboks.

The cable-cam shot from overhead and behind the posts helps to explain why.

South African hooker Malcom Marx is looking to ‘pop’ the right shoulder of his opposite number Marchand while he and Venter clamp Montagne’s head in a vice as the set-piece swings through and around. In both clips, the Toulousain hooker loses the right arm bind on his tight-head, leaving him vulnerable and isolated.

Jeremy Loughman and Michael Milne may only be ranked fourth and fifth in the Ireland pecking order at loose-head prop, but in the company of Ronan Kelleher and Tadhg Furlong, neither is likely to be embarrassed publicly at the Stade de France.

And if Ireland have a set-piece, they will be able to play a game against France. Make no mistake, the outcome of the match could be a whole lot closer than many anticipate. The second part of the article will look at selection probabilities and the tactical balance between the two teams. Get ready for a surprise. Expect the unexpected.


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Comments

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GRB13 3 days ago

France no questions!

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Kashmir Pete 3 days ago

Hi Nick


Apols did not get back to your earlier cheerios. Fyi re other place, at moment my look shows zero new articles any time past fortnight, rugby or any other sport…

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NB 2 days ago

Hi KP - yes it’s all gone silent there now, come over here more often!

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PMcD 3 days ago

Dingwall does go under the radar but he rarely makes mistakes, is pretty solid in D and has vey good distribution.

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PMcD 3 days ago

Yes, Defensively they are as good as I have seen them. Scrum & Line out have really improved and we just need a bit more creativity in attack, which will come.

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cw 3 days ago

NB both going 6-2 in effect means their available collective forward mass is basically the same,* with Ireland a slight edge with the starting pack and France a similar edge with the impact pack. My mass analysis therefore has a draw 😂. So back to those who actually know something about the players! Or perhaps home advantage….


*Ireland 4253, France 4255

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NB 2 days ago

Thanks🤣

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Ed the Duck 3 days ago

I was, go dig it out again for yourself if you need to.


Now, why does he measure up to a player like DDA defensively?

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NB 3 days ago

‘His stats don’t hold up’.🤣🤣


Phil Dowson and the Eng coaches obv think otherwise. Be specific.

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Ed the Duck 3 days ago

We went round this loop previously and you lost, his stats don’t hold up.


Now you tell us why he compares to guys like DDA as one of the best defensive centres in the world, the standard England need to aspire to.

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NB 4 days ago

I haven’t come across one scrum coach worth his salt who prefers the machine to live scrumming!

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NB 4 days ago

https://www.ultimaterugby.com/news/fraser-dingwall-pens-new-deal-with-saints/662897#:~:text=Senior%20honours%20seemed%20destined%20to,Club%20for%20a%20while%20now.%E2%80%9D


“Dingers is outstanding – in his play, in his commitment, in his work-rate, in his leadership – and his impact within our set-up cannot be overstated.


“He is someone who often flies under the radar and doesn’t always get the credit he deserves, but he’s a huge part of what we’re about.


“His defence, his ability to cut a line, his late footwork carrying the ball, and the way he can put people in space is world-class and that’s something we’ve known at the Club for a while now.”

Phil Dowson.


Why do you think his D is so poor? Be specific.

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Ed the Duck 4 days ago

So you rate him defensively at the level of players like DDA then?

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SB 4 days ago

Very interesting insight! Live scrums will definitely be different to training because of the different tricks and styles of the opposition I’m sure.

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NB 4 days ago

‘He doesn’t have a Test level defence and never will’. Jaysus.

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NB 4 days ago

I would not worry so much, think of all the developments Eng have made over the last 12-18 months instead🤣

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NB 4 days ago

Flats, Bernard Jackman, Ben Kayser, Rory Best on telly and pods; Dan Cole and Mike Ross on pods. Angus Taavao in NZ, Shimmy in SA.


Most are hookers but they know the feel of a scrum as well as a prop.

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Ed the Duck 4 days ago

The inimitable Brian Moore and David Flatman.

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Ed the Duck 4 days ago

He’s a connector and high success rate distributor who will slot seamlessly alongside TF in the ongoing project to turn TF into a centre. Unfortunately he doesn’t have a kicking game, much of a running threat or a test level defence and never will.

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SB 4 days ago

Who are BM and DF?


Yes, I find a lot of them doing guess work. Similar to when people speak about goalkeeping in football, when actually they have no idea.

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SK 4 days ago

If France cant assert dominance over an Injured and depleted Ireland at home less than 2 years out from a world cup then I fear for them. Last year they were psychologically hammered by the Springboks after wasting the 6 Nations momentum they gained with an ill-fated tour to NZ. Ireland themselves suffered multiple psychologically negative results over the last 2 years. The home loss to NZ, the bludgeoning they took at home to France last year, a poor result in Chicago and the annihilation of their scrum at the hands of South Africa on their home turf. Its almost like both sides are starting again. Going into 2023 Ireland and France were the most dominant sides on the planet far ahead of their rivals. Now 3 years later they find themselves at a crossroads with England threatening to surge past them in pursuit of the southern giants. This match will not define the next 2 years but for the winner it will be an important stepping stone to 2027, for the loser one fears it may signal the start of tough times to come.

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NB 4 days ago

Its almost like both sides are starting again. Going into 2023 Ireland and France were the most dominant sides on the planet far ahead of their rivals. Now 3 years later they find themselves at a crossroads with England threatening to surge past them in pursuit of the southern giants.

One of the best summaries of the sutiation I’ve heard - thanks.

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Eric Elwood 4 days ago

Autumn versus SA was the full French national teams first match since the 6N. SA were well hardened. France were better in the first half then fell away.

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