Tri Nations: All Blacks players ratings vs Pumas
Argentina sent shock waves around the world by giving the All Blacks a punch in the guts loss 25-15. They dominated with huge physicality in defence and didn’t give the New Zealanders an inch.
Coach Ian Foster had obviously primed his All Black charges to not back down to the Pumas after last week’s loss to the Wallabies but that backfired big time as the All Blacks gave away senseless penalties to be down 16-3 at halftime.
The All Blacks jersey has lost some lustre after this passion and skill lite outing and the Pumas played well beyond their world number 10 ranking; the best day in Argentinian rugby ever!
It’s hard to remember an All Black team playing so poorly and not being able to change the plan.
Here’re the All Black player ratings.
1. Joe Moody – 4
Gave away scrum penalty at the 32nd minute to gift the Argies a 13 point lead at halftime. Didn’t stop trying with ball in hand.
2. Dane Coles – 2
It’s a thin line between niggle and stupidity and at 22 minutes the hooker slapped Puma number 8 Bruni after he got his entry wrong at ruck time. Off at 47.
3. Tyrel Lomax – 5
One of the players who could hold his head high. Top tackler for ABs even though he was subbed at 57 minutes. The scrum penalty he conceded was unlucky judging by where his opposite’s bind was.
4. Patrick Tuipulotu – 3
One of the players found out in playing a more physical team than the Wallabies. Three carries for three metres, one lineout take, a spill in contact and a couple of missed tackles. Off at 69 and might be lucky to get a start for a while.
5. Sam Whitelock – 6
Didn’t stop trying, tracked back before the backs at 30 minutes to make two great denying tackles on Imhoff and Matera to save a try. Top line out takes and some good dabs with ball.
Argentina have secured one of the biggest shock international victories in recent memory in their first test of 2020, beating the All Blacks 25-15 at Bankwest Stadium in Sydney. #NZLvARG #TriNations https://t.co/NSHW39pQJa
— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) November 14, 2020
6. Shannon Frizell – 2
Won’t be compared to Kaino for a while after that display. Was like a boy against men, gave away a silly early penalty to give Argentina three points. Had his pocket and and handphone picked by Matera at 27 minutes and Kremer roughed him up like a rag doll at one stage. Off at 47.
7. Sam Cane – 4
Scored the first All Black first try, done at pace from line out. There’s no doubt he can lead from the front but the Kiwis seem to need someone to direct and lead strategy on-field.
8. Ardie Savea – 5
Found it hard to get yards early on but never stopped trying. With Sotutu creating space from the back of the scrum the selectors may have to make a big call around Savea, whether it’s pushing him to 6, 7 or bench.
9. Aaron Smith – 4
Got back to tackle Imhoff at 30 minutes, wasn’t effective as a distributor as ABs couldn’t get over gain line. Off 62.
10. Richie Mo’unga – 4
Like Smith, doesn’t look as good in neutral as when the pack are dominant. For some reason he made a lot of play to midfield runners expecting breaks but when they didn’t pay off there wasn’t any variety.
11. Caleb Clarke – 5.5
Really is a wonderful chaser at kick offs and high ball chases. He will realise now that test rugby is a little harder than his first spells on the field this season. At the final stanza he scored what will be the first of many tries for the ABs.
12. Jack Goodhue – 2
Strong run at 26 minutes for five metres on one carry. Goodhue maybe one of the casualties for this performance, there’s no doubt he’s a sensible player but so is Lienert-Brown; there can be only one of them there as a centre pairing. Off at 63.
13. Anton Lienert-Brown – 5.5
Never stopped probing and distributing. Needs a more dynamic partner in midfield.
14. Jordie Barrett – 3
Silly penalty given away on a late charge on the kicker. Dropped the ball on attack at 43 minutes. After seeing the evasiveness of the opposition wings (and even DMac) perhaps our selectors can think about a genuine wing for the 14 jersey. Off at 47.
15. Beauden Barrett – 4
Couldn’t work his magic even though he had opportunities from the back field. Will be under pressure for the fullback jersey for the next outing. Probably needs to take a larger leadership role in stoppages, he should be seeing a lot from the back.
Not an easy day for any All Black fan, but they day belonged to Los Pumas. How did they rate? #NZLvARG #TriNations https://t.co/dbgeUzaVdk
— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) November 14, 2020
BENCH
16. Codie Taylor – 4
On at 47. Poor lineout at 60 on attack, one of the least effective bench players.
17. Alex Hodgman – N/A
On too late perhaps at 73.
18. Nepo Laulala – 5
On at 57 good solid run at 59 and looked up for it.
19. Tupou Vaa’i – 6
On at 69 won a great first line out throw. Good run moments later, brought some energy!
20. Hoskins Sotutu – 5
On at 47. Big tackle on Kremer at 59 minutes and like a train off the back of the scrum at 63. A bad pass at 72 minutes blotted his copybook.
21. Brad Weber – 4
On at 62 and suffered the same woes as Smith with slightly more momentum.
22. Rieko Ioane – 4
On at 47, an error at 64 trying to get quick pass to Clarke which is what all the pundits remembered.
23. Damian McKenzie – 5
On at 63 and showed what someone with some footwork could do.
Comments on RugbyPass
🤦♂️🤣 who cares who’s the best . All I know is the All Blacks have the star coach but have few star players now …
27 Go to commentsJe suis sûr que Farrell est impatient de jouer avec Lopez et Machenaud et d’être entraîné par Collazo… 🤭
1 Go to commentsAn on field red (aka a full red) in SRP must surely carry a bigger suspension than a red card given by the bunker as that carries a 20 minute team punishment. Had Damon Murphy abdicated his responsibility as a ref and issued both Drua players a yellow, which would have been upgraded to a 20 minute red by the bunker, that would have killed Australia and New Zealand’s push for the 20 minute red to be trialled globally from July this year.
11 Go to commentsEver so often you all post a Danny Care story that isn’t the announcement that he has finally re-signed for one more, victory tour season at Quins and I’m just like, “well you fooled me again!” My absolute favorite player ever, we need to make his final year at the Stoop (and Twickers) official already. I know he supposedly snubbed France but I won’t feel better until he signs.
1 Go to commentslate hit what late hit it wasn’t at all late and can clearly see he was committed before the tackle
1 Go to commentsChristian Lio -Willies 2 try perfomance was a standout. As was captain Scott Barrett. Up front was where the boys won it.They are a great team and players. Fantastic Crusades , you can keep going.
1 Go to commentsI don't know how the locals feel about that? I guess if you call yourselves the Worcester Wasps that might be appease. But really we need more teams in the Premiership in my view so they are not padding it out as they are at the moment. It might curtail so many players going abroad as well
5 Go to commentsNZ 😭😭😭is certainly rivaling England for best whingers cup!😭😭😭 !!!
27 Go to commentsYup. New Zealand won 3 out of 10 world cups played. SA 4 out of 8 attempts 30 Vs 50 per cent.🤔🤔
27 Go to commentsShould've done this years ago. Change Saturday kick off times to around 11am. Up and off and back home before 3pm, limit travel time too. Allows players to actually do something else with their Saturday that's family oriented or being rugby fans they could ‘watch’ pro rugby. Increases crowds etc. How can anyone that enjoys grassroots and pro rugby have to choose between the two on Saturdays?
9 Go to commentsI bet he inspired those supporters just as much.
1 Go to commentsBen Smith Springboks living rent free in his head 😊😂
67 Go to commentsGood to hear he would like to play the game at the highest level, I hadn’t been to sure how much of a motivator that was before now. Sadly he’s probably chosen the rugby club to go to. Try not to worry about all the input about how you should play rugby Joey and just try to emulate what you do on the league field and have fun. You’ll limit your game too much (well not really because he’s a standard athlete like SBW and he’ll still have enough) if you’re trying to make sure you can recycle the ball back etc. On the other hard, you can totally just try and recycle by looking to offload any and everywhere if you’re going to ground 😋
1 Go to commentsThis just proves that theres always a stat and a metric to use to justify your abilities and your success. Ben did it last week by creating an imaginary competition and now you did the same to counter his argument and espouse a new yardstick for success. Why not just use the current one and lets say the Boks have won 4 world cups making them the most successful world cup team. Outside of the world cup the All Blacks are the most successful team winning countless rugby championships and dominating the rankings with high win percentages. Over the last 4 years statistically the Irish are the best having the highest win rate and also having positive records against every tier 1 side. The most successful Northern team in the game has been England with a world cup title and the most six nations titles in history. The AB’s are the most dominant team in history with the highest win rate and 3 world cups. Lets not try to reinvent the wheel. Just be honest about the actual stats and what each team has been good at doing and that will be enough to define their level of success.
27 Go to commentsHow is 7’s played there? I’m surprised 10 or 11 man rugby hasn’t taken off. 7 just doesn’t fit the 15s dynamics (rules n field etc) but these other versions do.
9 Go to commentsPick Swinton at your peril A liability just like JWH from the Roosters Skelton ??? went missing at RWC
14 Go to commentsLike tennis, who have a ranking system, and I believe rugby too, just measure over each period preceding a world cup event who was the longest number one and that would be it. In tennis the number one player frequently is not the grand slam winner. I love and adore the All Blacks since the days of Ian Kirkpatrick when I was a kid in SA. And still do because they are the masters of running rugby and are gentleman on and off the field - in general. And in my opinion they have been the majority of the time the best rugby team in the world.
27 Go to commentsHaving overseas possessions in 2024 is absurd. These Frenchies should have to give the New Caledonians their freedom.
21 Go to commentsBell injured his foot didn’t he? Bring Tupou in he’ll deliver when it counts. Agree mostly but I would switch in the Reds number 8 Harry Wilson for Swinton and move Rob Valentini to 6 instead. Wilson is a clever player who reads the play, you can’t outmuscle the AB’s and Springboks, if you have any chance it’s by playing clever. Same goes for Paisami, he’s a little guy who doesn’t really trouble the likes of De Allende and Jordie Barrett. I’d rather play Carter Gordon at 12 and put Michael Lynagh’s boy at 10. That way you get a BMT type goalkicker at 10 and a playmaker at 12. Anyways, just my two cents as a Bok supporter.
14 Go to commentsThanks Brett, love your articles which are alway pertinent. It’s a difficult topic trying to have a panel adjudicating consistently penalties for red card issues. Many of the mitigating reasons raised are judged subjectively, hence the different outcomes. How to take away subjective opinions?
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