This Leinster side is better than the one that won three titles and they’re ready to create a dynasty – Andy Goode
Sport is cyclical, with the Champions Cup proving the perfect example of that in recent years, and this Leinster side look ready to create a dynasty.
Toulon, Saracens and Leinster themselves have all won the title back-to-back in the past decade and have shared the last eight titles between them. Toulon have fallen away but the other two have the big game experience and know how to win titles and you just can’t overstate how important that is.
Saracens will be the main contenders to wrestle Leinster’s crown away from them and, in truth, the pair of them are head and shoulders above the rest.
Every pool is tough in the Champions Cup but Pool 1 is this season’s ‘pool of death’ with Leinster, Wasps, Bath and Toulouse. And, despite that, I still expect the reigning champions to come through it and win the group without too many problems.
Exeter scraped into the quarter-finals once three years ago but Europe has proven a different beast to the Premiership for them and they’ve found it tough. There’s expectation on them now because of their domestic form but it’s a straight shoot-out between them and Munster in Pool 2 and I think they’ll top that one.
Glasgow and Lyon will be tough trips for Saracens in Pool 3 but the English champions are in ridiculous form at the moment and if they can win at Scotstoun this weekend, I think they’ll make that group look like a walk in the park.
Racing might not have set the world alight yet in the Top 14 this season but they’ve reached the final in two of the last three years and their European pedigree, as well as a bit of an extra spark from Finn Russell and Simon Zebo to add to their power game, should be enough to see them top Pool 4.
Montpellier should win Pool 5 at a canter. Toulon won this tournament three years on the spin but they’re looking like a PRO D2 team at the moment in the Top 14, Newcastle are bottom of the Premiership and Edinburgh are back in the big time for the first time for five years.
My Quarter-Final Qualifiers
Leinster
Exeter
Munster
Saracens
Glasgow
Racing 92
Scarlets
Montpellier
Saracens lost seven games in a row in all competitions in the middle of last season and struggled with injuries at crucial times. Going through as runners-up last time around meant they had to go to Leinster in the quarter-finals and I don’t think they’ll make that mistake again.
Everyone seems to have this year’s tournament as a two-horse race and if you’re picking the best two teams in Europe now to meet in the final in Newcastle in May, there’s no doubt it’s Saracens and Leinster but there’s a long way to go between now and then.
It’s not a slight on the competition to suggest that those two are ahead of the rest either. There are a lot of high quality teams involved but they have both developed into behemoths of European rugby and they are at the absolute peak of their powers in terms of the age profile and quality of their squad.
A lot of these Leinster and Saracens players are so used to success with Ireland and England but, whilst being capped internationally is an amazing feeling, there is something special about the bond that’s built over time at club level and then winning the biggest trophy in the club game with men that have become like brothers.
The intensity of the games when you get to the knockout stages of the Champions Cup is as close to Test rugby as you can get but you’re doing that with your mates and that’s one of the intangible factors that sets these Leinster and Saracens teams apart.
There are other top teams in this competition that will all feel like they have a close bond within the squad but there is a culture at those two that’s unrivalled at the moment. They look after their players better than anyone else and the bits you see coming out of the dressing rooms at both clubs shows what the spirit is like and gives a glimpse into one of the keys to their success.
Leinster will have a target on their back this year after winning the trophy for the first time for six years back in May but they’ve shown no signs of being unable to cope with that extra pressure and they’re a province that won the title three times in four years not so long ago so they know there’s always that expectation on them.
I actually think, on paper, this current Leinster squad is better than the crop that won three European Cups under the captaincy of Leo Cullen and with the likes of Brian O’Driscoll, Gordon D’Arcy, Jamie Heaslip and others in the side.
I think there’s definitely more quality across the board in this squad and there’s more depth but they’ll only be mentioned in the same breath if they achieve a similar level of sustained success. The players know that and I think they’re ready to create a dynasty.
Leicester started the idea of a dynasty in European rugby when they won it in consecutive years in 2001 and 2002 and then Leinster, Toulon and Saracens have all lifted the trophy back-to-back since 2012. It’s not hard to re-motivate yourselves as players to win it again because it’s the pinnacle of club rugby but having a group of players capable of staying at the very top is rare.
When we won it twice at Leicester we had a group that were getting towards the end of their careers, a lot of whom went on to win the World Cup the year after we’d won back-to-back European titles.
It was downhill after 2002, though, and Leicester haven’t lifted the trophy since then. Toulon won it three years in a row but are now trying to rebuild the club almost after losing a lot of players who were at the very end of their careers.
The scary thing about these Leinster and Saracens sides is that they still have a number of years left at their peak and certainly Leinster seem to have a conveyor belt of talent coming through as well.
They seem to have one eye on the future and building a legacy and a dynasty, whilst keeping the other eye firmly on the here and now and that’s a frightening prospect for everyone else.
Comments on RugbyPass
Pretty good side. Scott Barrett should be the captain. Ethan Blackadder a great choice at blindside. He is going to go from strength to strength having made a couple of starts for the Crusaders. Scott Robertson rates him highly. Perenara could start a no 9.
3 Go to commentsI question and with respect. Was enough done over the last few years to bring through new blood knowing the Whitelocks and co couldn’t last forever. There should have been more done to future proof the team. New squad new coach, he and they weren’t set up well. IMO
6 Go to commentsJacobsen will definitely be in the 23
3 Go to commentsLots of discussion points, Ben, but two glaring follies IMO: 1. Blackadder at 6. Has done nothing so far this season to justify his selection. Did you see him going backwards in contact at the weekend? Simply has not got the physical presence at 6: we need a Scott Barrett or a Finau (or wildcard Ah Kuoi), beasts who are big enough to play lock, like Frizzell. If Barret played at 6, Paddy could be joined at lock by Vai’i or one of the young giants we need to promote, like Darry or Lord (if he ever gets on the field). Blackadder best left to join the queue for 7. 2. Not even a mention for Christie? Ratima gets caught at crucial times at the back of the ruck when he hesitates on the pass. The only way he starts would be if Christie and TJ are injured.
3 Go to commentsWhat a dagg in more ways than one
6 Go to commentsRegroup come back next year but sack some of the coaching team and don't be like the ABs last minute sacking. If Crusaders don't do well ABs don't do well.
5 Go to commentsProctor Definitely inform again this year had a hell of a season last year and this year is looking even better. Still mixed feelings about Ioane tho.
4 Go to commentsDagg is still trying to get enough headlines to make himself relevant enough to get a job. The Crusaders went back to square one at all levels. Shelve this season and nail the next one.
6 Go to commentsHe was in such great form. Sad for him but only a short term injury and it will be great to see him back for the finals.
1 Go to commentsAfter their 5/0 start, I had the Crusaders to finish Top 4 only…they lost the plot in Perth but will reload and back themselves vs 4th placed Rebels…
5 Go to commentsBoth nations missed a great opportunity to book a game that would have had a lot of interest from around the world. I understand these games can’t be organised in 5 minutes but they should have found a way to make it happen. I don’t think Wales are ducking anyone but it’s a bad look haha.
3 Go to commentsIt will be fascinating to see the effect that Jo Yapp has. If they can compete with Canada and give BFs a run for their money that will be progress
1 Go to commentsFollowing his dream and putting in the work. Go well young fella!
3 Go to commentsPerhaps filling Twickenham is one of Mitchell’s KPIs. I doubt whether both September matches will be at Twickenham on consecutive weekends. I would take the BF one to a large provincial stadium so as not to give them the advantage and experience of playing at Twickenham before a large crowd prior to the RWC.
3 Go to commentsvery unfortunate for Kitshoff, but big opportunity potentially for Nché to prove he is genuinely the best loosehead in the world, rather than just a specialist finisher. Presuming that if Kitshoff is out, it will also give Steenekamp a chance to come into the 23? Or are others likely to be ahead of him?
1 Go to commentsA long held question in popular culture asks if art imitates life or does the latter influence the former? Over this 6 nations I can ask the same question of the media influencing the thoughts of its audience or vice versa. Nobody wants to see cricket scores in rugby, as a spectacle it is not sustainable. With so many articles about England’s procession and lack of competition it feeds the epicaricacy of many looking for an opportunity to pounce. England are not the first team to dominate nor does it happen only in rugby, think Federer, Nadal, Red Bull or Mercedes, Manchester Utd, Australia in tests and World Cups. Instead of celebrating the achievements why find reasons to falsify it pointing towards larger playing pool, professional for a longer period or mitigate with the lack of growth in other nations. Can we not enjoy it while it is here and know that it won’t last for ever, others coveting what England have will soon take the crown, ask the aforementioned?
6 Go to commentsShame he won’t turn out for the Netherlands now they’re improving. U20s are Euro champs and in the U20 Trophy this year. The senior sides gets better every year too.
3 Go to commentsWill rugbypass tv be showing these games?
1 Go to commentsWell where do you start, the fact that England have a professional domestic league and Ireland’s is fully amatuer, that they have fully seperated professional squads at Fifteens and Sevens (7’s thinly disguised as GB), and Ireland have fully pro Sevens squad who loan some players back to the Semi-Professional Fifteens squad (moved from amateur for only a year or so) for a few games at 6N & RWC’s. The Women’s games is a shambles, and is at risk of killing itself by pushing for professionalism when the market isn’t really there to support it outside one or two countnries..
6 Go to commentsWayne Smith's input didn't have as much impact on the last final as Davison's red card for Thompson. England were 14 points up and flying when that happened.
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