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'They'd hood you... they'd grab you and take you into this dark room'

Drew Mitchell during an Australia media session at the MacDonald Bath Spa Hotel on September 16, 2015 in Bath, United Kingdom.

The stories that emerge from World Cup training camps are seldom pleasant, but few nations will be able to rival the lengths that Michael Cheika went to before the 2015 showcase.

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While it was a tournament that went well for the Wallabies, as they reached the final, it began with what Adam Ashley-Cooper recently described as “kidnapping blokes and interviewing them in an interrogation environment.”

Joining the latest episode of RugbyPass TV’s Boks Office in collaboration with The KOKO Show, Matt Giteau, Ashley-Cooper and Drew Mitchell went into detail about the former Wallabies coach’s methods to see “how aligned” the group were. All three started in the 34-17 loss to the All Blacks in the final at Twickenham a few weeks later.

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Their experiences then inspired Schalk Burger to discuss a similar test prior to the 2003 World Cup with the infamous Camp Staaldraad.

Cheika took the helm at Leicester Tigers this summer, so we wait to see if similar stories emerge in due course.

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“I wasn’t necessarily kidnapped, I just go interviewed,” Ashley-Cooper said.

“Basically, I think [Cheika] just wanted to kind of test the group around being interviewed, what you’d give away,” he continued. “Because I think for him it was about how aligned are the group. And also for him, creating a shared experience. So he had this way of mixing things up in terms of prep to make it memorable and I don’t know if you can get any more memorable than kidnapping blokes and interviewing them in an interrogation environment.”

Mitchell added: “He had a group of guys who came and said ‘you’ve got to meet here’ and they’d grab you and take you into this dark room, they’d hood you and then go into a dark room. All of a sudden they take the hood off and there’s a bloke in black just talking to you with a camera.”

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Ashley-Cooper continued: “Bright lights in your face. You couldn’t see anyone behind and Cheika was in the back of the room.

“His big thing is he wanted to test how strong the group was,” Giteau added. “The guy interviewing said ‘don’t say anything’, not to tell anyone. There were maybe five or six blokes that were interviewed and until this guy came out later in this team meeting, no one had spoken about it. So it showed that they were tight.”

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cw 6 hours ago
The coaching conundrum part one: Is there a crisis Down Under?

Thanks JW for clarifying your point and totally agree. The ABs are still trying to find their mojo” - that spark of power that binds and defines them. Man the Boks certainly found theirs in Wellington! But I think it cannot be far off for ABs - my comment about two coaches was a bit glib. The key point for me is that they need first a coach or coaches that can unlock that power and for me that starts at getting the set piece right and especially the scrum and second a coach that can simplify the game plans. I am fortified in this view by NBs comment that most of the ABs tries come from the scrum or lineout - this is the structured power game we have been seeing all year. But it cannot work while the scrum is backpeddling. That has to be fixed ASAP if Robertson is going to stick to this formula. I also think it is too late in the cycle to reverse course and revert to a game based on speed and continuity. The second is just as important - keep it simple! Complex movements that require 196 cm 144 kg props to run around like 95kg flankers is never going to work over a sustained period. The 2024 Blues showed what a powerful yet simple formula can do. The 2025 Blues, with Beauden at 10 tried to be more expansive / complicated - and struggled for most of the season.

I also think that the split bench needs to reflect the game they “want” to play not follow some rote formula. For example the ABs impact bench has the biggest front row in the World with two props 195cm / 140 kg plus. But that bulk cannot succeed without the right power based second row (7, 4, 5, 6). That bulk becomes a disadvantage if they don’t have a rock solid base behind them - as both Boks showed at Eden Park and the English in London. Fresh powerful legs need to come on with them - thats why we need a 6-2 bench. And teams with this split can have players focused only on 40 minutes max of super high intensity play. Hence Robertson needs to design his team to accord with these basic physics.



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