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'The French have to beat them in November'

South Africa's players celebrate their victory at the end of the Autumn Nations Series international rugby union test match between France and South Africa at the Stade de France in Saint-Denis, Paris' suburb, on November 8, 2025. (Photo by FRANCK FIFE / AFP)
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Former England scrum-half Ben Youngs believes France must overcome South Africa in November if they are to remove what he sees as a growing psychological barrier against the world champions ahead of the 2027 World Cup.

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The 127-cap England international was reflecting on Rugby’s Greatest Rivalry on his For the Love of Rugby podcast this week after the Springboks completed a 3-1 series victory over the All Blacks.

Youngs believes Rassie Erasmus’ side remain “head and shoulders” above much of the Test landscape when at their best, pointing to the variety of ways they are able to win matches.

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He nevertheless identified New Zealand, France and Ireland as the three teams capable of challenging the Boks, although he feels France’s recent record against South Africa has created a mental hurdle that now needs to be cleared.

Fabien Galthie’s side host the Boks on Friday, November 13, during the Northern Hemisphere Series of the Nations Championship, and Youngs believes that a lot is riding on that match for Les Bleus a year out from the World Cup in Australia.

England were notably absent from that group, with Youngs arguing that Steve Borthwick’s side may be capable of producing one major performance, but remain some way short of stringing together the elite displays required at the business end of a World Cup.

“Right now, the Boks are head and shoulders above a lot of teams. When they are on song, they have multiple ways of winning.

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“I think New Zealand have shown that they can live with them, they can compete, but have fallen short. Give them another 12 months, they can close the gap a little bit, I think. It’s going to come down to set-piece. Can they close the gap in those areas?

“I think the French can. They can definitely compete, but they have a psychological barrier when it comes to the Boks, and it’s something that they just cannot get over right now. For me, the French have to beat them in November. They have to beat them in November. If they don’t, that psychological barrier will be there come the World Cup, and therefore it’s a hurdle they just cannot overcome.

“And I think Ireland have shown that when they put it together on their day, are in that mix. So they’re the four teams to me.

“I don’t have [England] in that conversation. Could they bring a one-off game? Yeah, of course they could. But in the World Cup, we know you’ve got to do it, depending on what side of the draw you are, you still got to do it at least twice, two weeks in a row.

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“You might get out your pool, last 16, you might have what’s deemed an easier quarter-final, but by the time you get to semis and finals, you’ve got to put two good performances in a row, like elite performances. And I think the gap at the moment is too big.”

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CHILLI 27 days ago

🤔 we beat the French with 14 men last time. Sure they have improved, but so have we. It’ll be a good battle on French soil that’s for sure. I don’t think it matters at all who wins for the RWC semi, it’ll be ancient history by then. They real no 2 team in the world at the moment imo is France. NZ 3. Scotland 4. Ireland 5. Australia 6. Scotland is a chance against the all moans, but it’s a long shot.

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Lou Cifer 26 days ago

I think the French need that win later this year vs the Boks because 1 win in 10 attempts going back to 2010 is becoming quite a mental block for them and majority of those Bok wins were in France too.

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Blackmania 27 days ago

France are clearly the most dangerous team for the Boks. The French will make fewer individual errors than New Zealand. They have everything they need to win on November 13th. Dupont has a statement to make. He wasn’t there last year and still had a fractured jaw in the RWC quarter-final. France will win this match.

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PM 26 days ago

England will do a job again on the All Blacks on November

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Lou Cifer 27 days ago

Guess we’ll have to revisit this after that game because you seem really sure. What will it mean if they dont?

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J Marc 27 days ago

Halfback is not the main concern for France. Dupont will not play at tighthead prop…

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DC 27 days ago

The Boks better hope for another incomptent English ref in Paris. Only way they'll do it. Almost four years of that requirement needed

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unknown 26 days ago

You are dreaming. You need to give credit where it is due

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Lou Cifer 27 days ago

Boks been lucky with incompetent refs for what…7 years now DC😝That’s a long time….

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Tah Man Too 27 days ago

Why wait for France? The Wallabies will beat them next week….

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Two Cents 27 days ago

They probably won't. But if they do then everyone will have to make excuses for why it happened, none of which include the Wallabies being a good team who are actually capable of winning anything. Because that's just inconceivable.

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JPM 27 days ago

Sometimes it is better to lose badly vs the heavy favorites like the ABs in 1999 and beat them in the RWC semifinals 43-31 in one of the best RWC games…Always better to be neglected by its opponents and some of their arrogant fans.

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JJ 26 days ago

I was there. Incredible. The penalty count count in the first half was 18-1 for New Zealand. Then the promised envelope didn’t turn up, so Fleming blew an honest 2nd half! (OK, made up the envelope bit).

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Tom 27 days ago

Yeah let's hope so. A Bok fan today told me Dupont is “average”.

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unknown 26 days ago

I believe he is certainly overrated. He is good but not nearly the player the northern Hemisphere commentators make him out to be. Once he performs against Southern Hemisphere teams he might become more highly rated.

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DP 27 days ago

Average at this point in time - class is permanent. Lucu is at this point in time better and the best 9 on the planet.

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J Marc 27 days ago

Your friend is right, since he met Beirne and Porter in 2025, Antoine Dupont was average, with some correct games, and some others very average. Sunday night vs Bordeaux, he was not average, he was very good. But I don't think halfback is the worst concern for France…

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Hammer Head 27 days ago

Yes they must. They just must.

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Lou Cifer 28 days ago

Have to agree with Ben…. 1 win in 10 attempts going back to 2010 is becoming a major issue for that “juggernaut” French team😁

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DP 27 days ago

As are 2 wins in 10 attempts y NZ

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Hammer Head 27 days ago

Indeed

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