'I think he is actually developing as a player. I'm seeing improvement in most areas of his game'
Rob Baxter believes Stuart Hogg could be the missing link in Exeter Chiefs’ quest to break new ground in the European Champions Cup.
Despite competing in the past four Premiership finals, winning the title 2017, Exeter have only once qualified from their pool and never gone beyond the quarter-finals.
Scotland full-back Hogg was forced off with concussion after just 17 minutes of the Pool 2 leaders’ win over Sale Sharks, but not before he had created one try and scored another, made two clean breaks, ran over 60m and beaten six defenders.
A blockbuster summer signing from Glasgow Warriors, the like of which Exeter seldom make, Baxter feels the 27-year-old can be the difference between unprecedented European success and another campaign that fails to match their domestic prowess.
“I would like to think he would be,” the director of rugby said. “He is part of it. Good players influence other players as well, so it’s not only what he is bringing individually, but the influence he has on other people.
“That element of talk and experience and seeing things is very important. Hoggy will say himself, he is covering a lot of metres with us, probably more than in the past, but we tend to have high ball-in-play time which means the full-back is moving a lot – anticipating where it’s going to be, where the next kick might come from.
“And I think he is actually developing as a player. I don’t think he’s someone we’ve got here and want to cling onto him in the model he is. He wants to push on and keep developing and we want him to push on and see as much of the ball as he can.”
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In his first five matches, played largely in testing conditions, Hogg had yet to showcase the extent of his devastating attack game, but still gobbled up an immense number of metres with ball in hand and put in several beautiful touch-finders with the boot.
But at the AJ Bell Stadium, the Scot’s blistering break led to a penalty try, before he seized an opportunistic kick-and-chase score, during which he suffered a brain injury. Baxter is adamant that even in his short time in Devon, he has already noticed progress in much of Hogg’s game.
“There’s a period of the season where you have to be able to win games in poor conditions and in that circumstance you have to be able to do the basics very well,” he added.
“For a full-back, that is catching, kicking, defending, talking, organising the back-three. Stuart’s very good at that so we were very comfortable that we were slotting in someone in the correct way, someone that would be useful in the conditions now, but when conditions dry up, as you saw today, he can add something.
In only 17 minutes before concussion forced him off, Stuart Hogg created one try and scored another, ran 62m, made two clean breaks and beat six defenders. A red-hot display for an Exeter Chiefs team that look uncatchable in Pool 2. This is why Chiefs signed him. pic.twitter.com/b5b5uX6Qfj
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“You have to work very hard to get to semi-finals and finals but semi-finals and finals are played at the end of May and in June, and normally on a red-hot day, with a firm pitch. That is the time when you want someone to create something out of nothing and potentially win you a game and we feel that’s what Stuart can do.
“I’m seeing improvement in most areas of his game. Today in a lot of ways was his best attacking game. To do it in a Champions Cup game shows it is still there. He genuinely found space today and looked capable of breaking a team open and it wasn’t like we were putting him into space, which is good.
“That kind of physicality is developing, his movement around the backfield is fantastic for us and his kicking will still improve. We do a lot of kicking with our outside backs and that’s an area which, although it’s very good, will continue to improve for him.”
The 22-20 Salford triumph keeps Exeter unbeaten at the Pool 2 summit, six points clear of Hogg’s former side Glasgow and eight better off than Sale, who visit Sandy Park next weekend.
Although there are three fixtures remaining, and Chiefs have still to travel north to Scotstoun, the pool is firmly in their grasp, particularly given the spanking they visited upon the Warriors in round two. It may be early days, but this has the feel of a seismic year, a golden opportunity to go deeper into the Champions Cup than they have ever managed.
“Sometimes you wonder if it’s the tough moments you’ve been through in the past which create situations like today,” Baxter said. “I’d like to think that shows some of the tough qualities the lads have shown in campaigns before.”
All of this comes, rather oddly, after a middling start to the Premiership. Narrow wins over Harlequins and Worcester have been accompanied by defeat at struggling Bath and in a most un-Exeter-like performance, shipped a 17-0 lead at home to Bristol, losing 20-17. Baxter believes his players, desperate to crack Europe, were waiting for the competition to begin rather than emptying themselves domestically.
“Every one of you in this room who has interviewed me before has said, ‘Is it going to be your year in the Heineken Cup? When’s it going to be Exeter’s year to get out of the pool?’ And the players hear that as well and get asked those questions,” Baxter said.
“So in pre-season we did reviews with all of them and an awful lot of them said their goal this season was to go further in Europe. Now, if you set it as your goal and you see it just a couple of weeks away, which happened at the start of the season, then you do start looking forward to it and waiting for it. And I think that’s what happened a little bit.
“We got through the first few rounds of the Premiership playing ok, we never really took off. Sometimes a group of players almost talk themselves into what’s going to happen. We kind of talked ourselves into an ok performance against Bristol, which ended up not being good enough, but a very good performance the next week against La Rochelle, and that was purely a mental approach to what we were doing.”
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Thanks Nick The loss of players to OS, injury and retirement is certainly not helping the Crusaders. Ditto the coach. IMO Penny is there to hold the fort and cop the flak until new players and a new coach come through,…and that's understood and accepted by Penny and the Crusaders hierarchy. I think though that what is happening with the Crusaders is an indicator of what is happening with the other NZ SRP teams…..and the other SRP teams for that matter. Not enough money. The money has come via the SR competition and it’s not there anymore. It's in France, Japan and England. Unless or until something is done to make SR more SELLABLE to the NZ/Australia Rugby market AND the world rugby market the $s to keep both the very best players and the next rung down won't be there. They will play away from NZ more and more. I think though that NZ will continue to produce the players and the coaches of sufficient strength for NZ to have the capacity to stay at the top. Whether they do stay at the top as an international team will depend upon whether the money flowing to SRP is somehow restored, or NZ teams play in the Japan comp, or NZ opts to pick from anywhere. As a follower of many sports I’d have to say that the organisation and promotion of Super Rugby has been for the last 20 years closest to the worst I’ve ever seen. This hasn't necessarily been caused by NZ, but it’s happened. Perhaps it can be fixed, perhaps not. The Crusaders are I think a symptom of this, not the cause
6 Go to commentsNo way. If you are trying to picture New Zealand rugby with an All Blacks mindset, there have been two factors instrumental to the decline of NZ rugby to date. Those are the horror that the Blues have become and, probably more so, the fixture that the Crusaders became. I don’t think it was healthy to have one team so dominant for so long, both for lack of proper representation of players from outside that environment and on the over reliance on players from within it. If you are another international side, like Ireland for example, sure. You can copy paste something succinct from one level to the next and experience a huge increase in standards, but ultimately you will not be maximizing it, which is what you need to perform to the level the ABs do. Added to that is the apathy that develops in the whole game as a result of one sides dominance. NZ, Super, and Championship rugby should all experience a boom as a result of things balancing out. That said, there is a lot of bad news happening in NZ rugby recently, and I’m not sure the game can be handled well enough here to postpone the always-there feeling of inevitable decline of rugby.
6 Go to commentsNo SA supporter miss Super Rugby - a product that is experiencing significant head wind in ANZ - the competition from rival codes are intense, match attendance figures are at a historical low and the negativity of commentators such as Kirwan and Wilson have accelerated the downward spiral in NZ. After the next RWC in 2027 sponsors will follow Qantas and start leaving in droves.
2 Go to commentsLike others, I am not seeing the connection between this edition of the Crusaders and the All Blacks future prospects under Razor. I think the analysis of the Crusaders attack recently is helpful because Razor and his coaching team used to be able to slot new guys in to their systems and see them succeed. Several of Razor’s coaches are still there so it would be surprising if the current attack and set piece has been overhauled to a great extent - but based on that analysis, it may have been. Whether it is too many new guys due to injuries or retirement or a failure of current Crusaders systems is the main question to be answered imo. It doesn’t seem relevant for the ABs.
6 Go to commentsharry potter is set in stone. he creates stability and finishes well. exactly what schmidt likes. he’s the ben smith of australian rugby. i think it could quite easily be potter toole and kellaway for the foreseeable future.
5 Go to commentsThis is short sighted from Clayton if you ask me, smacks of too much preseason planning and no adaptability. What if DMac is out for a must win match, are they still only going to bring their best first five and playmaker on late in the game? Trusting the game to someone who wasn’t even part of planning (they would have had Trask pinned in as Jacomb preseason). Perhaps if the Crusaders were better they would not have done this, but either way imo you take this opportunity to play a guy you might need starting in a final rather than having their 12th game getting comfortable coming off the bench.
1 Go to commentsThanks Brett.. At last a positive article on the potential of Wallaby candidates, great to read. Schmidt’s record as an international rugby coach speaks for itself, I’m somewhat confident he will turn the Wallaby’s fortunes around …. on the field. It will be up to others to steady the ship off the paddock. But is there a flaw in my optimism? We have known all along that Australia has the players to be very competitive with their international rivals. We know that because everyone keeps telling us. So why the poor results? A question that requires a definitive answer before the turn around can occur. Joe Schmidt signed on for 2 years, time to encompass the Lions tour of 2025. By all accounts he puts family first and that’s fair enough, but I would wager that his 2 year contract will be extended if the next 18 months or so shows the statement “Australia has the players” proves to be correct. The new coach does not have a lot of time to meld together an outfit that will be competitive in the Rugby Championship - it will be interesting to see what happens. It will be interesting to see what happens with Giteau law, the new Wallaby coach has already verbalised that he would to prefer to select from those who play their rugby in Australia. His first test in charge is in July just over 3 months away .. not a long time. I for one wish him well .. heaven knows Australia needs some positive vibes.
21 Go to commentsWhat a load of bollocks. The author has forgotten to mention the fact that the Crusaders have a huge injury toll with top world class players out. Not to mention the fact that they are obviously in a transition period. No this will not spark a slow death for NZ rugby, but it does mean there will be a new Super Rugby champion. Anyone who knows anything about NZ rugby knows that there is some serious talent here, it just isn’t all at the Crusaders.
6 Go to commentsI wouldn’t spend the time on Nawaqanitawase! No point in having him filling in a jersey when he’s committed to leave Union. Give the jersey to a young prospect who will be here in the future.
5 Go to commentsIt was a pleasure to watch those guys playing with such confidence. That trio can all be infuriating for different reasons and I can see why Jones might have decided against them. No way to justify leaving Ikitau out though. Jorgensen and him were both scheduled to return at the same time. Only one of them plays for Randwick and has a dad who is great mates with the national coach though.
53 Go to commentsBrayden Iose and Peter Lakai are very exciting Super Rugby players but are too short and too light to ever be a Test 8 vs South Africa, France, Ireland, and England, Lakai could potentially be a Test player at 7 if he is allowed to focus on 7 for Hurricanes.
7 Go to commentsPencils “Thomas du Toit” into possible 2027 Bok squad.
1 Go to commentsDon’t see why Harrison makes the bench. Jones can play at 10 if needed, and there is a good case for starting her there to begin with if testing combinations. That would leave room for Sing on the bench
1 Go to commentsWhat a load of old bull!
1 Go to commentsOf the rugby I’ve born witness to in my lifetime - 1990 to date - I recognize great players throughout those years. But I have no doubt the game and the players are on average better today. So I doubt going back further is going to prove me wrong. The technical components of the game, set pieces, scrums, kicks, kicks at goal. And in general tactics employed are far more efficient, accurate and polished. Professional athletes that have invested countless hours on being accurate. There is one nation though that may be fairly competitive in any era - and that for me is the all blacks. And New Zealand players in general. NZ produces startling athletes who have fantastic ball skills. And then the odd phenomenon like Brooke. Lomu. Mcaw. Carter. Better than comparing players and teams across eras - I’ve often had this thought - that it would be very interesting to have a version of the game that is closer to its original form. What would the game look like today if the rules were rolled back. Not rules that promote safety obviously - but rules like: - a try being worth 1 point and conversion 2 points. Hence the term “try”. Earning a try at goals. Would we see more attacking play? - no lifting in the lineouts. - rucks and break down laws in general. They looked like wrestling matches in bygone eras. I wonder what a game applying 1995 rules would look like with modern players. It may be a daft exercise, but it would make for an interesting spectacle celebrating “purer” forms of the game that roll back the rules dramatically by a few versions. Would we come to learn that some of the rules/combinations of the rules we see today have actually made the game less attractive? I’d love to see an exhibition match like that.
29 Go to commentsIrish Rugby CEO be texting Andy Farrell “Andy, i found our next Kiwi Irishman”
5 Go to commentsI certainly don’t miss drinking beers at 8am in the morning watching rugby games being played in NZ.
2 Go to commentsThis looks like a damage limitation exercise for Wales, keeping back some of their more effective players for the last 20/25 minutes to try and counter England’s fresh legs so the Red Roses don’t rack up a big score.
2 Go to commentsVery unlikely the Bulls will beat Leinster in Dublin. It would be different in Pretoria.
1 Go to commentsI think it is a dangerous path to go down to ban a player for the same period that a player they injured takes to recover. Players would be afraid to tackle anyone. I once tackled my best friend at school in a practice match and sprained his ankle. I paid for it by having to play fly-half instead of full-back for the rest of that season’s fixtures.
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