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Pat Lam weighs in on All Blacks eligibility with proposed rethink

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Pat Lam has proposed a rethink of New Zealand Rugby’s All Blacks eligibility rules, saying the changes would help inject more cash into grassroots rugby and player development.

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The one-time All Black, now long-time Bristol Bears coach, expressed some concern over the state of New Zealand’s development pathways in an interview this week, but wasn’t going to get caught up in problems without delivering some potential solutions.

When identifying the issues, Lam pointed to trends in the recent NPC season, saying he saw some “really good flashy skills” on display, but a lack of fundamentals.

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“I looked at the fundamentals of the game — not the flash stuff: Your scrummaging, lineout, lifting, mauling, catch, pass, carry, ball presentation, your breakdown work,” he told Martin Devlin of DSPN.

“Certainly, at the top level in New Zealand, it’s great, but when I was looking down, I was thinking, my goodness, what’s happening in club rugby? What’s happening in NPC rugby? Because I just saw too many players who are fundamentally poor.”

It’s the fundamentals where Lam says New Zealand has fallen off the pace, internationally.

“That’s where I believe England has closed the gap,” he added. “The amount of work that goes into the basics of the game is huge.”

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Taking a wider lens view of the game, the coach considered the financial aspect of an All Blacks eligibility law that restricts selection to players under contract in Super Rugby.

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“I was always a big believer in not opening the gateway and picking players from overseas, because you’ve got to protect our competition,” he said.

“But the competition needs money. I’m hearing stories of the money that the NRL is bringing in. Obviously, my good mate, Ali Williams, and Auckland football, that’s kicked off as well; all these competing leagues.

“And then I hear a lot of mates, and John Afoa’s filled me in about club rugby in Auckland and around the country, and a lot of friends have told me they need money, right? Where’s the money? This is what I believe should happen: 50-cap All Blacks; to get 50 caps in the All Black team, you have established yourself as a player, as a leader, and in the culture. If you think of all the All Blacks there that have 50 caps or more, then look at the wage bill. What do you think the wage bill of all of those guys is?

“As Rassie does, let the other countries take the 50-capped All Blacks and let them play. Some of them with 50 caps are probably getting on, and they’re not going to get picked anyway. But the established ones, so I think of Scott Barrett, he could easily be playing in Japan, the UK, or France, just like the Springboks do, and come back straight into the All Black environment, because he’s part of the established leadership group. He can come and go.

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“Anyone below that, you’re still into Super Rugby. You still can’t be picked. However, all that money that’s freed up from those players alone can go straight back into growing their game and the grassroots, back into NBC and all of that. I just believe the only thing that’s going to bring it through is the money to get that development going again, because without that, it’s unfortunately going to just continue to do what we’ve seen at the moment. And there is talent 100 per cent, but you’ve got to develop that talent, otherwise they’re heading off to other sports.”

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rs 44 days ago

Better solution is to make your domestic competition more commercially attractive. You’ll need the best players to do that. NRL won’t generate as much revenue that they do if their best players played oversees, would they? It’s short-term thinking. You gotta build your revenue by investing in a quality product, not plan your own shrinkage by letting top quality players go.

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JW 44 days ago

“really good flashy skills” on display, but a lack of fundamentals

What are fundamentals if not “flashy skills”! I’m going to predict this article has him talking out of his arse again, because I’d love to know what he thinks has been really good. I can’t believe it, he’s trying to make it come across as piecemeal for making evident the lack of technical skills on display.


I’m a big fan of the they rugby is played in the Prem, and it’s right in the differences he highlights, but sadly for the state of the game in England NPC is still at about the standard of the none knockout PREm teams. That’s just how much better and useful the “flashy skills” are, along with the athlete, to a game.

“But the competition needs money… a lot of friends have told me they need money, right?”

Yes broadcast revenue from booming markets in Japan and America are pivotal. But they don’t just need to get a more competitive Super (better non NZ sides), they need to make it marketable in general. Better laws and much better fan engagement to drive it’s external appeal are arguably more important in reaching these markets as what Lam has mentioned so far.

“As Rassie does, let the other countries take the 50-capped All Blacks and let them play.

Yeah I like these sorts of concepts. This is probably a bit too simplistic for this day and age, it would have been something used if they had of broached it a decade ago (no need to not move with the times because they didn’t do it a decade ago, think bigger and better as if you have been doing it for a decade already), 50 caps are a lot. Recent examples of Leicester (who along with Jordie don’t seem to have really developed them that well, we wait and see if Rieko adds to his game) going abroad at a good learning age would make more sense.


I suspect it also would really solve an problem. The players leaving would just fail to feature as All blacks there after, a new cycle of local players in better form would start their way to 50 caps. What benefit would we get out of selecting people like Scooter or Ardie from Japan? They simply wouldn’t be as good as local players. For World Cup years they might be able to get upto speed with a solid 4 or 5 months in black, coming back to play in Super, but I fair the disruption would be too high and keeping cohesion with locals would be better.


My idea is essentially to create system that allows the two best players in every position to remain eligible while overseas. So when that cycle happens and the top local player leaves and Scooter is no longer 2nd or 3rd best overseas lock, he knows he has to return home to balance that change. Essentially there are already one or two players abroad in every position now, so not a lot changes, apart from of course those players being added to the eligible list, and now having some formal, visible sign that they need to return home/raise their stocks etc when they drop down the ranking.


But you are not going to save a 30million wage bill that way, but 30 mil is not really going to do a lot anyway. We need to double our yearly revenue/broadcast dollar if local rugby in the pacific is going to remain relevant.


It might be enough for what I expect Lam to be driving towards, bringing back quality coaches and raising standards a bit. It would be good to hear from someone who knew what they were talking about regard the points he raises at grass roots level. I can imagine that funding is a long way off what it was a few years ago with Super booming and then Silverlake money being dished out.

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cw 45 days ago

The bonus would be that players who go to England / France would develop under the their systems and be more rounded / hardened players. So win win for AB and national game with more $ available etc. But better happen soon as on current arc of travel, the ABs may not be much in demand.

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JW 44 days ago

Not if they waiting to hit 50 caps cw. I suspect that would be well too late.

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MikeM 44 days ago

Absolutely. This makes so much sense, shame the NZRU top dogs don't have your ability to see this.

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SM 45 days ago

Yeah but SA has a big gap in development highschool superstars go to the big 4 (Bulls, Lions, Sharks and Stormers) and fight for game time instead of closing the academies and giving those structures to the Varsity simple more teams in the Varsity Cup play a minimum of two years and then let the 14 provincial teams draft pick them

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SB 45 days ago

What’s happening in NPC rugby? Because I just saw too many players who are fundamentally poor.

Spot on and this is a big concern as it looks like those fundamentals aren’t being concentrated on.

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JW 44 days ago

I wouldn’t say not being concentrated on, I’d say it’s talking about resources, like himself for instance.


I’d expect they are actually balanced quite evenly. But you also have to acknowledge the mindset. The All Blacks pod invention is a great example, no one needed that, it was the type of invention that’s not really done in NZ, and although it might have added slight improvement, it was taken internationally and turned into a weapon against them! It was just a formal way to shape and use skillful players, there was no real need for it, the props were already passing before pods were developed, no doubt it’s a NH impact. Ironic.


Ireland took organized formulas to a new level of course, should that be the way rugby in NZ changes? I think probably if it hasn’t died already that would officially be the end if they did.


Who knows of course, he might have been referring to the ones with jobs. Hard to know.

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Hammer Head 45 days ago

Pat Lam’s a genius.


Just do what SA did. Simple.

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JW 44 days ago

What did SA do? Slowly transition over a decade?

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