One warm-up too many for England - Andy Goode
England’s final game before the World Cup is great for the North East but it’s one warm-up too many and shows World Rugby need to expand the squad size.
Eddie Jones’ selection of three players outside of his 31-man squad to face Italy shows that three would have probably been the optimum number of games to have in preparation for getting on the plane to Japan.
It’s great for Joe Marchant, Charlie Ewels and Matt Kvesic who get another cap and possibly know that they’re next in line for a call-up should anyone get injured in their position but it’s clear he doesn’t want to risk certain players who have played enough already.
The game has changed drastically over the past three or four years in terms of the size of players and the impact of Test matches on the body and four warm-up games seems to be a bit much given what we’ve seen.
I also think World Rugby need to look at expanding the size of the squads to 33 or 34 at World Cups because of just how attritional international rugby is. The intensity that England train at, let alone play at, is phenomenal nowadays.
I wouldn’t advocate a big increase because that would dilute what it means to go to a World Cup and mean more players would be going and not playing but coaches want to work 15 on 15 in training and that just isn’t possible with a 31-man squad.
You normally expect up to about a 25 per cent attrition rate in club rugby with that proportion of your squad missing at any one time because they’re banged up so I think adding a few more spots is reasonable and necessary in the modern game.
I would make it a 34-man squad and I think that would allow coaches to get some more quality training done, which is more important than warm-up games in many respects, as well as allowing them to cover more positions properly.
The conversation around Billy Vunipola, in particular, starting all four of these games is a storm in a tea cup for me though. You can get injured in training and certain players get better with more games. Billy has missed some time over the past year or so and I don’t see an issue with him starting again if the coaches think it’s the right thing to do.
It does highlight the fact that he is the only genuine number eight in the squad but that is the balance that Eddie has chosen so he will have a big workload.
It might seem strange to some people that this is the game he’s starting at fly half but Owen Farrell hasn’t started at 10 yet in these warm-up games, so I think he had to start there in this one.
Ben Youngs will be looking for a big performance alongside him as well after a few people have raised questions about his displays in August and with only two scrum halves in the squad.
It’ll be great to see Ruaridh McConnochie finally make his debut after having to pull out of the first couple of warm-up games through injury and he’ll be eager to prove why he’s been selected.
And, before his Achilles injury Anthony Watson was England’s first choice full back and he is a world class operator when fit and firing so it’s great to see him back starting in the 15 jersey.
There have been some question marks over Elliot Daly defensively and under the high ball but I still think he gets in the starting XV at full back or on the wing for the big games at this World Cup.
Newcastle won’t care about how many warm-up games there are and it’s great to see an international being taken up there. We saw what it was like up there for the Champions Cup final back in May and it’s a great atmosphere at St James’ Park.
It’s not just great for the fans either. I had the privilege of playing for England at Old Trafford back in the day and the players will be excited too, especially Mark Wilson.
They’re only warm-up games but the way England have played in theirs over the course of the past month compared to some of the other leading nations you could argue they’re the form team in the world all of a sudden.
Things are looking good but it’s no good peaking too early. November 2 is the time to reach an absolute peak. Only time will tell whether England can do that but they’ll settle for getting through this one without any injuries.
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18 Go to commentsThis team probably does not beat the ABs sadly Not sure if BPA will be available given his signing for Force but has to enter consideration. Very strong possibility of getting schooled by the AB props. Advantage AB. Rodda/Skelton would be a tasty locking combination - would love to see how they get on. Advantage Wallabies. Backrow a risk of getting out hustled and outmuscled by ABs. Will be interesting to see if the Blues feast on the Reds this weekend the way they did the Brumbies we are in big trouble at the breakdown. Great energy, running and defence but goalkicking/general kicking/passing quality in the halves bothers me enormously. SA may have won the World Cup for a lot of the tournament without a recognised goalkicker but Pollard in the final made a difference IMO. Injuries and retirements leave AB stocks a bit lighter but still stronger. 12 and 13 ABs shade it (Barret > Paisami, Ione = Ikitau, arguably) Interesting clash of styles on the wings - Corey Toole running around Caleb Clark and Caleb running over the top of Toole. Reece vs Koro probably the reverse. Pretty even IMO. 15s Kelleway = Love See advantage to ABs man for man, but we are not obviously getting slaughtered anywhere which makes a nice change. Think talent wise we are pretty even and if our cohesion and teamwork is better than the ABs then its just about doable.
11 Go to commentsCompletely agree. More friday night games would be a hit. RFU to make sure every club has a floodlit pitch. Club opens again Saturday to welcome touch / tag. Minis and youths on Sunday
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55 Go to commentsThe value he brought to the crusaders as an assistant was equal to what he got out of being there. He reflected not only on the team culture but also the credit he attributed to the rugby community. Such experience shouldn’t be overlooked.
5 Go to commentsGood luck Aussie
11 Go to commentssmith at 9 / mounga 10 / laumape 12 / fainganuku 14
54 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
2 Go to commentsDon’t disagree with much of this but it appears you forgot Rodda and Beale, who started at the Force on the weekend.
11 Go to commentsExcept for the injured Zach Gallagher this would be Saders best forward pack for the season. Blackadder needs to stay at 7, for all of Christies tackling he is not dominant and offers very little else. McNicholfullback is maybe a good option, Fihaki not really upto it, there was a reason Burke played there last year. Maybe Havilli to 2nd five McLeod to wing. Need a strong winger on 1 side to compliment Reece
1 Go to commentsTo me TJ is clearly the best 9 in the competition right now but he's also a proven player off the bench, there's few playmaking players who can come off the bench as calm and settled as he is, Beauden can, TJ can and I doubt any of the scrumhalves in contention can, if they want to experiment with new 9s I want him on the bench ready to step in if they crumble under the pressure. The Boks put their best front row on the bench, I'd like to see us take a similar approach, the Hurricanes have been doing similar things with players like Kirifi.
54 Go to commentsROG has better chance to win a WC if he starts training and make himself eligible as a player. He won’t make the Ireland squad but I reckon he may get close with Namibia (needs to improve his Afrikaans) or Portugal. Both sides had 1000:1 odds to win the RWC in 2023 which is an improvement on ROG’s odds of winning a RWC as a coach. Unlike Top 14 teams, national teams can’t go shopping and buy the best players - you work with the available talent pool and turn them into world beaters.
5 Go to commentsthat backline nope that backline is terrible why would you have sevu Reece when he’s not even top 5 wingers in the comp why have Blackadder when there’s better players no Scott barret isn’t an automatic the guy is more of a liability than anything why have him there when you have samipeni who’s far far better
54 Go to commentsAh, good to find you Nick. Agree with everything about Cale. So much to like about his game
55 Go to commentsNot too bad. Questions at 6, lock and HB for me. The ABs will be a lot stronger once Jordan and Roigard return. Also, work needs to be made to secure Frizzell back for next season and maybe also Mo’unga; they’re just wasting time playing in japan
54 Go to commentsOn the title, i wonder for many of those people it is a case something like a belief in working smarter, not harder?
1 Go to commentsForget Sotutu. One of those whose top level is Super Rugby. Id take a punt on Wallace Sititi Finau ahead of Glass body Blackadder.
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18 Go to commentsI'm not listening to a guy moralise over others when this is the guy who walked out mid season on Canterbury RLFC when he had a contract with them, what a hypocrite. All the Kiwis sticking up for this unprincipled individual because they can't accept justified criticism, he has zero credibility or integrity. Those praising him are a joke.
18 Go to commentsI’d put Finau at 6 instead of Blackadder but that’s the only change I’d make. Can’t wait to see who Razor picks.
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