Is professionalism the next step forward for the Premier 15s?
As the talent groomed in the English club game shines through on the international stage this autumn, the Premier 15s league and specifically the investment from the RFU, has been praised with bolstering English grown talent, and drip feeding the currently unstoppable Red Roses side.
In women’s sport we’re never happy to stand still, or we shouldn’t be. So, we ask the question: where does the already successful league go next?
The word ‘professionalism’ has been on the lips of players, fans, coaches and journalists for a few years now, but as the league continues into its fifth season and gets more well known, competitive and team’s strength in depth grows, it becomes more and more pertinent- is professionalism around the corner?
You can’t mention professionalism without mentioning the salary cap which at present sits as a soft cap at £120,000 per Premier 15s club, doubled from the initial £60,000 cap put in place by the RFU in 2020 to ensure the process of paying the players was done gradually and the league remained competitive. The cap limit for next season is currently under discussion.
Two women who know the English club game inside out, Giselle Mather, Wasps Women Head Coach and Worcester Warriors Women Head Coach Jo Yapp, believe professionalism is the way forward.
“The big issue is that the game at the moment is going professional in terms of training, but isn’t financially professional yet,” said Mather. “We can’t look at the men’s game and think it’s all perfect up there because it isn’t, everyone has their issues but we’ve got to find ways of operating at a professional level with the finances that we’ve got.”
In past seasons Mather has argued that the Premier 15s needs to be careful when it comes to professionalising the league and warned if things happening too quickly, it won’t be sustainable. The worst-case scenario would be for players to leave their day jobs and take up a playing career only to have the league revert back to amateurism, which is why Mather advocates for a softly, softly approach.
“What I would love to see is all my athletes go semi-professional where they have two or three days of work and two or three days of rugby- I think that’s where the game is at at the moment. However, they need to be well rewarded in both avenues that they’re not scrimping because they’re only working three days. That’s where I’d love to see the women’s game go, semi-pro.”
Yapp also believes professionalism is needed in the future.
“Hopefully we will get to the point where club players can start to be professional otherwise the gulf is going to get bigger between club and country,” said the former England captain.
“What we have to try and do as a club is close that gap as it’s very clear and evident that the contracted Red Roses have been full time for a while, you can tell that by how they play and their conditioning, so for us as clubs we’re working really hard to bridge that gap. We have to keep driving to be in a position where all Premier 15s players will have the opportunity to be professional in the future.”
Mather concurs that the spreading of international talent throughout the league, especially the full time England players is of paramount importance if we are to see an even playing field.
“As it stands the 28 England contracted athletes are shared across the clubs, some clubs have none, I have three at the moment and some clubs have up to nine, and you might say that’s not fair to start with as the RFU are paying those players and that’s being discussed as to how we can keep a level playing field across the competition.
“If the league wants a broadcast deal, it can’t have predetermined outcomes- you don’t want to know in the first three years it’s always going to be Sarries vs Quins in the final because the majority of Red Roses are in those squads.
“Wasps RFC fund my squad, the RFU finance is just to meet the minimum operating standards and we have to add to that to meet that, and that’s a good thing as it means the competition has that professional air. But currently at the club I’m the only full-time member of staff and I need my staff to be full time with me. I need some of my players to have more time where they’re not battling with work. I understand the game isn’t yet at that stage but it’s moving to it.”
Yapp agrees that allowances have to be made with where the league is currently at.
“We have England players Lydia Thompson and Alex Matthews who are full time, and we have a couple of players that we have more access to such as our Japanese fly-half Mino Yamamoto but we have the extreme of players that work full time long hours and players who are full time with rugby and we need to create a programme which supports all of them. There is only so much I can expect from players that are working full time hours.”
Dr Ali Bowes, senior lecturer in Sociology of Sport at Nottingham Trent University, who has recently written a book on the professionalism of women’s sport, is all too versed in the challenges facing female athletes and professionalism.
“Discussions around professionalisation are a real chicken and egg issue. We have seen the success of England’s squad in recent weeks as evidence of what can be achieved if women in rugby are invested in. A common critique of women’s sport at the elite level is the standard of play, and if the quality and pace of play increases, you’re going to draw in more support from fans, which results in increased revenue. But past experiences in professional women’s sport, notably domestic soccer in the USA, demonstrates that proceeding carefully is essential.
“Fundamentally, we need commercial partners who value women’s sport to invest, in order for the game to continue to grow, and to begin to see some form of return on investment that the business model of sport requires.”
So what needs to be firmly in place before a sport heads into professionalism- a broadcast deal, sponsorship, increased funding from clubs or the unions? Does it all come down to money?
“It would be naïve to think that money is not the biggest driver here, because everything that is required for the sport to grow is rooted in investment: better quality facilities, better quality coaching and sport science support, players having increased ability to commit time to performance, rest and recovery days and increased media presence (if this is not via broadcast deals).
“Support and funding from the National Governing Body is essential in the growth of the sport – again, rugby gives us some very obvious examples of the impact of this. If those in charge of the sport can demonstrate that they see it as worthy of investment, that ideology will run all the way through.”
It appears England are in an enviable position when it comes to the RFU, the Premier 15s and the Red Roses, and despite knowing changes aren’t going to happen overnight in rugby, Mather is optimistic about the future.
“The platform of women’s sport across the globe now is huge. People are watching women’s sport, it’s accessible and it’s cool to be a woman in sport. Girls are no longer looked at like they shouldn’t be playing.
“These days people celebrate athletic women and embrace women’s teams, that’s what the RFU and the Premier 15s is massively about.”
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Thanks for the write up. Great to see the Rebs winning, I am a little interested in how they will go against the remaining kiwi teams, I think they’ve only played Hurricanes and Highlanders but how great to see these players performing!! I also see Parling has a job beyond June 30! A good move by RA? Also how do you fix the Rebels previously scratchy defence?
81 Go to commentsbe smart - go black
13 Go to commentsNext week the Crusaders hopefully have Scott Barrett back. Will be great to have the captain back. Hopefully he will be the All Black captain as well.
12 Go to commentsExciting place to be for the young fella. I expected he was French Polynesian when I saw him included in the France 6N squad (after seeing him in NZs), and therefor be strong grounds we might loose him to rugby down here. Good, in that he is good enough to warrant such a profile, and from a journalism’s fan interaction aspect, to finally get a back ground story on the fella. Hope he has settled into NZ OK and that at least one rugby country will fit with him to help his development, which, if so, he should surely continue for a few years, and then that he can experience France to it’s fullest with a bit more maturity and less reliance on family than you would have at his current age. A good 3 or 4 years before he would be ready for International duty if he wanted to wait. Of course he already sounds good enough to accept a call up, and to cap himself, in the more immediate future (he’d have to be very very good in the case of the ABs), and he’ll get a great taste of that being with the Canes who have a bunch who are just a few years further into their career and looking likely Internationals themselves.
13 Go to commentsI remember towards the end of the original broadcasting deal for Super rugby with Newscorp that there was talk about the competition expanding to improve negotiations for more money - more content, more cash. Professional rugby was still in its infancy then and I held an opposing view that if Super rugby was a truly valuable competition then it should attract more broadcasters to bid for the rights, thereby increasing the value without needing to add more teams and games. Unfortunately since the game turned professional, the tension between club, talent and country has only grown further. I would argue we’re already at a point in time where the present is the future. The only international competitions that matter are 6N, RC and RWC. The inter-hemisphere tours are only developmental for those competitions. The games that increasingly matter more to fans, sponsors and broadcasters are between the clubs. Particularly for European fans, there are multiple competitions to follow your teams fortunes every week. SA is not Europe but competes in a single continental competition, so the travel component will always be an impediment. It was worse in the bloated days of Super rugby when teams traversed between four continents - Africa, America, Asia and Australia. The percentage of players who represent their country is less than 5% of the professional player base, so the sense of sacrifice isn’t as strong a motivation for the rest who are more focused on playing professional rugby and earning as much from their body as they can. Rugby like cricket created the conundrum it’s constantly fighting a losing battle with.
3 Go to commentsOh wow… “But as La Rochelle proved in winning in Cape Town this season, a cross-continental away assignment need not spell the end of days.” La Rochelle actually proved quite the opposite. After traveling to Cape town and back they (back-to-back and current champs) got mercilessly thumped the next week. If travel is not the reason, why else would a full-strength powerhouse like La Rochelle get dumped on their @r$e$ one week later?
26 Go to commentsYou know he can land a winning conversion after the full time siren is up. (Even if it takes two attempts.)
5 Go to commentsA very insightful article from Jake. I would love to know how South African’s feel about their move to Europe. Do you prefer playing in Europe or want to go back to Super Rugby?
3 Go to commentspure fire
1 Go to commentsA very well thought out summary of all the relevant complications…agree with your ”refer the Cricket Test versus 20/20 comparison”. More also definitely doesn't necessarily mean better!
3 Go to commentsMust be something when you are only 19 y.o and both NZ and France want you. Btw he wasn’t the only new caledonian in french U20 as Robin Couly also lived in Noumea until 17. Hope he’s successful wherever he chooses to play.
13 Go to comments“Several key players in the Stade Rochelais squad are in their thirties” South Africans are going to hate the implications of that comment!
5 Go to commentsI know Leinster did a job on La Roche but shortly after HT Leinster were 30-13 ahead of them and at a similar time Toulouse were trailing Exeter. At 60 mins Leinster were 27 ahead but after 67 mins Toulouse were only 19 ahead before Exeter collapsed. That’s heavier scoring by Leinster against the Champions. I think people are looking at Toulouses total a little too much. I also think Northhampton are in with a real chance, albeit I’d put Leinster as favourites. If Leinster make the final I expect them to win by more than ten and with control.
5 Go to commentsHey Nick, your match analysis is decent but the top and tail not so much, a bit more random. For a start there’s a seismic difference in regenerating any club side over a test team. EJ pretty much had to urinate with the appendage he’d been given at test level whereas club success is impacted hugely by the budget. Look no further than Boudjellal’s Toulon project for a perfect example. The set ups at La Rochelle and Leinster are like chalk and cheese and you are correct that Leinster are ahead. Leinster are not just slightly ahead though, they are light years ahead on their plans, with the next gen champions cup team already blooded, seasoned and developing at speed from their time manning the fort in the URC while the cream play CC and tests. They have engineered a strong talent conveyor belt into their system, supported by private money funnelled into a couple of Leinster private schools. The really smart move from Leinster and the IRFU however is maximising the Irish Revenue tax breaks (tax relief on the best 10 years earnings refunded at retirement) to help keep all of their stars in Ireland and happy, while simultaneously funding marquee players consistently. And of course Barrett is the latest example. But in no way is he a “replacement for Henshaw”, he’s only there for one season!!! As for Rob Baxter, the best advice you can give him is to start lobbying Parliament and HMRC for a similar state subsidy, but don’t hold your breath… One thing Cullen has been very smart with is his coaching team. Very quickly he realised his need to supplement his skills, there was talk of him exiting after his first couple of years but he was extremely shrewd bringing in Lancaster and now Nienaber. That has worked superbly and added a layer that really has made a tangible difference. Apart from that you were bang on the money… 😉😂
5 Go to commentsNot sure exactly what went wrong for him at Glasgow but it’s pretty clear he ain’t Franco’s cup of tea. Suspect he would have been better served heading out of Scotland around the same time as Finn, Hoggy and Jonny!
1 Go to commentsBulls disrespected the Northampton supporters and the competition. Decide quickly, fully in or out.
26 Go to commentsI wonder if Parling was ever on England’s radar as a coach? Obviously Borthwick is a great lineout coach, but I do worry he might be taking on too much as both head coach and forwards coach.
1 Go to commentsJason Jenkins has one cap. When Etzebeth was his age he had over 80 caps. Experience matters. He will never amount to what Etzebeth has because he hasn’t been developed as an international player.
2 Go to commentsSays much about the player picking this gig over the easier and bigger rewards offered to him in Japan. Also says a lot about the state sanctioned tax benefits the Irish Revenue offers pro rugby players, with their ten highest earning years subject to an additional 40% tax relief and paid as a lump sum, in cash, at retirement. Certainly helps Leinster line up the financial ducks in a row to fund marquee signings like this!!! No other union anywhere in world rugby benefits from this kind of lucrative financial sponsorship from their government…
5 Go to commentsTrue Jordie could earn a lot more in Japan. But by choosing Leinster he’ll be playing with 1 of the best clubs in the world and can win a champions cup and URC…..
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