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'A wise man, Richard Cockerill, once said to me an opinion without consequence is a terrible thing'
It’s just as well Geordan Murphy doesn’t do social media – some of the negativity about Leicester Tigers would only worsen the already largely sleepless nights he has been having trying to turn around the fortunes of an ailing club burdened by trophy-winning expectation.
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No-one expected that the July arrival of Steve Borthwick as head coach, an appointment that allowed Murphy to move upstairs and become director of rugby, would be the silver bullet that would instantly cure all ills. But the stark reality of the quicksand Leicester continue to drown in was laid bare again on Wednesday night, not only by the record defeat at Wasps but by events elsewhere.
If the original 35-point deduction given to Saracens last November had stood instead of it becoming the 105-point penalty which automatically relegated them in January, the Londoners’ losing bonus point at Sale would have sent Leicester bottom of the table and left them facing relegation with three games remaining.
Imagine what the online reaction would have been if that were the case. As it was, the despair was noticeable enough midweek. “FFS. I give up with you lot! #speechless,” read one tweet. Another asked: “How the hell is Geordan Murphy still DoR? Think he lost the changing room last season.”
There was more. “Am I glad I am not watching this garbage. No doubt coaches will say we are pleased with the effort! Humiliating.”
"That is not something to be proud of today"
– Cub skipper leaves it all out there ?https://t.co/ffU9vS6U8P
— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) September 10, 2020
And a final flavour of the negativity: “Leicester are f**ked. Steve Borthwick and Geordan Murphy aren’t turning this mob around. The crazy decision to fire Richard Cockerill continues to look as baffling now as it did then. They’re going absolutely nowhere.”
Curiously it was that very same Cockers whose name cropped up when Murphy was asked by RugbyPass if he had a message for Leicester fans given some of the caustic nature of the social media commentary surrounding them following their fifth defeat in six post-lockdown outings in the restarted 2019/20 Premiership.
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“Look, I have said it all the way through Covid, it very much feels like a start of a journey for us and we have got a coaching team together now we feel is going to take us in the right direction and we feel that we are certainly growing and learning.
“We have got a journey, we have got a long way to go. Wednesday night was definitely a step back. I don’t look at social media because obviously it’s a very interesting thing. A wise man, Richard Cockerill, once said to me an opinion without consequence is a terrible thing.
“Social media is what it is and in my experience where I have been in the last year, certainly we’ve been down bottom of the table and when fans were coming through the gates at Welford Road we have been hugely supported.
“When I go out and about in the community, what I would call true Leicester supporters have been hugely supportive and they appreciate where we are at, a learning experience with young players and giving them those opportunities to grow and develop.
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“It’s not going to happen overnight. It’s not a case of you have a silver bullet that you shoot and all of a sudden you’re winning Premierships and winning European Cups. We have a long, exciting journey but we’re pretty well supported.
“When we have fans back at Welford Road you’ll see 20,000 people there screaming and shouting and supporting the team. That is why it is one of the best stadiums around and that is what we find.
“I haven’t seen social media but like everything in life it’s probably about ten or 15 people. I’m having a guess, I haven’t been on it. If it’s more it’s more but it’s generally about 15 or 20 people, the naysayers and the doom-mongers and good luck to them.”
Thing is, as much as Murphy makes it policy not to dwell on anything the keyboard warriors have to say, what can’t be ignored are the difficult statistics casting Leicester in a bad light.
Borthwick’s six matches in charge have seen 201 points conceded, 30 tries conceded, 145 tackles missed – hardly the improvements longed for after Murphy welcomed in the ex-England assistant this summer following his own draining experience in the head coach hot-seat which featured just 11 wins in 34 league matches after he stepped up in September 2018 following the abrupt sacking of Matt O’Connor.
It hasn’t helped that Leicester haven’t won away in the league since beating Newcastle in an April 2019 encounter at Kingston Park which decided that campaign’s relegation battle. With the safety net of Saracens’ off-field relegation not applicable when the new 2020/21 season kicks off, the clock is ticking on Tigers rediscovering some growl to ensure that this time next season they won’t be at the start line in the Championship after tumbling out of the top flight.
“I have really been enjoying the dynamic to be honest with you,” said Murphy, reflecting on the change in the Leicester management dynamic in recent months. “Having a head coach on board to really worry about the rugby and really focus on the nuts and bolts and the ABCs of what is happening on the field has been great.
“The dimension in the coaches box has been good. We have got the attack coach, the defence coach feeding in those messages and it leaves me to have a feel on the overall view of the game. We have been working together well as a coaching group. Although the results haven’t been exactly what we would have liked I can see progress in every department.”
Time will tell the fruits, if any, of that labour. In the meantime, shut-eye will continue to be a premium. “I don’t sleep a lot on the back of games anyway. We didn’t get back across until reasonably late (from Wasps) and then you’re watching some bits and pieces.
“Sleep is challenging for a coach, we finish late and start early. I didn’t sleep much after Wasps but I suppose that is where we find ourselves. We’re not in normal times in a six- or seven-day turnaround. We’re back at the coalface pretty quickly at the moment, as is everybody.”
Tigers scraping the barrel at this dire rate https://t.co/jjtAueFP9z
— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) September 9, 2020
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Gregor I just can’t agree with you. You are trying to find something that just isn’t there. Jordie Barrett has signed until 2028. By the end of that he would have spent probably 11-12 years on Super Rugby and you say he can’t possibly have one season playing somewhere else. It is absurd. What about this scenario, the NZR play hard ball and he decides to leave and play overseas. How would that affect the competition. There seems to be an agenda by certain journalists to push certain agendas and don’t like it when it’s not to their liking. I fully support the NZR on this. Gregor needs to get a life.
2 Go to commentsHope he stays as believe he can do a great job.
1 Go to commentsMake what step up? Manie has a World Cup winner’s medal around his neck and changed the way the Springboks can play. He doesn’t have anything to prove to anyone. The win record of the Boks with him in the team is tremendous. Sacha can be wonderful and I hope he has a very succesful Bok career, but comparing him to Manie in terms of the next Bok flyhalf is very strange. Manie is the incumbent (not the next) and doing pretty incredibly.
1 Go to comments00 😍 U
1 Go to commentsSabbaticals have helped keep NZ’s very best talent in the country on long term deals - this fact has been left out of this article. Much like the articles calling to allow overseas players to be selected, yet can only name one player currently not signed to NZR who would be selected for the ABs. And in the entire history of NZ players leaving to play overseas, literally only 4 or 5 have left in their prime as current ABs. (Piatau, Evans, Hayman, Mo’unga,?) Yes Carter got an injury while playing in France 16 years ago, but he also got a tournament ending injury at the 2011 World Cup while taking mid-week practice kicks at goal. Maybe Jordie gets a season-ending injury while playing in Ireland, maybe he gets one next week against the Brumbies. NZR have many shortcomings, but keeping the very best players in the country and/or available for ABs selection is not one of them. Likewise for workload management - players missing 2 games out of 14 is hardly a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Again let’s use some facts - did it stop the Crusaders winning SR so many times consecutively when during any given week they would be missing 2 of their best players? The whole idea of the sabbatical is to reward your best players who are willing to sign very long term deals with some time to do whatever they want. They are not handed out willy-nilly, and at nowhere near the levels that would somehow devalue Super Rugby. In this particular example JB is locked in with NZR for what will probably (hopefully) be the best years of his career, hard to imagine him not sticking around for a couple more after for a Lions tour and one more world cup. He has the potential to become the most capped AB of all time. A much better outcome than him leaving NZ for a minimum of 3 years at the age of 27, unlikely to ever play for the ABs again, which would be the likely alternative.
2 Go to commentsJake White talks more sense than anything I've read in the last 5 years. Hope someone's listening.
9 Go to commentsThe Springboks tried going down the road of only picking home-based players and it was an unmitigated disaster in 2016 and 2017. Picking overseas-based players has been one of the main reason the Boks have done so well since 2018, not only because of the quality Rassie could call on, but because of the knowledge and experience those players brought into camp from England, France and Japan. With some of the big names playing abroad it also gave younger players in SA the chance to break through at franchise level. Would we have seen the emergence of a Ruan Nortje if RG and Lood were still at the Bulls? Not so sure. I understand why Jake would want to block players leaving since his job depends on good results but it’s an approach that would take Bok rugby back to the bad old days and no South African wants to see that.
9 Go to commentsExeter were thumped by 38 points. And they only had to hop on a train.
39 Go to commentsI am De Groot.
1 Go to commentsHad hoped you might write an article on this game, Nick. It’s a good one. Things have not gone as smoothly for ROG since beating Leinster last year at the Aviva in the CC final. LAR had the Top 14 Final won till Raymond Rhule missed a simple tackle on the excellent Ntamack, and Toulouse reaped the rewards of just staying in the fight till the death. Then the disruption of the RWC this season. LAR have not handled that well, but they were not alone, and we saw Pau heading the Top 14 table at one stage early season. I would think one of the reasons for the poor showing would have to be that the younger players coming through, and the more mature amongst the group outside the top 25/30, are not as strong as would be hoped for. I note that Romain Sazy retired at the end of last season. He had been with LAR since 2010, and was thus one of their foundation players when they were promoted to Top 14. Records show he ended up with 336 games played with LAR. That is some experience, some rock in the team. He has been replaced for the most part by Ultan Dillane. At 30, Dillane is not young, but given the chances, he may be a fair enough replacement for Sazy. But that won’be for more than a few years. I honestly know little of the pathways into the LAR setup from within France. I did read somewhere a couple of years ago that on the way up to Top 14, the club very successfully picked up players from the academies of other French teams who were not offered places by those teams. These guys were often great signings…can’t find the article right now, so can’t name any….but the Tadgh Beirne type players. So all in all, it will be interesting to see where the replacements for all the older players come from. Only Lleyd’s and Rhule from SA currently, both backs. So maybe a few SA forwards ?? By contrast, Leinster have a pretty clear line of good players coming through in the majority of positions. Props maybe a weak spot ? And they are very fleet footed and shrewd in appointing very good coaches. Or maybe it is also true that very good coaches do very well in the Leinster setup. So, Nick, I would fully concurr that “On the evidence of Saturday’s semi-final between the two clubs, the rebuild in the Bay of Biscay is going to take longer than it is on the east coast of Ireland”
11 Go to commentsWhat was the excuse for the other knockout blowouts then? Does the result not prove the Saints were just so much better? Wise call to put your eggs in one basket when you’ve got 2 comps simultaneously finishing.
39 Go to commentsReally hope Kuruvoli and his partner rock the Canes.
1 Go to commentsI wonder what impact Samson has had on their attack, as the team seems less prone to trundle it up the middle, take the tackle and then trundle it up again. I lost faith in the coach last year as the Rebelss looked like a 2nd/3rd rate South African team. I also disliked Gordon standing back, often ignored as the forward battle went on and on. Maybe its our Aussie way of not getting off our A***’s until the enemy is at the gate.
86 Go to commentsThanks for the write up. Great to see the Rebs winning, I am a little interested in how they will go against the remaining kiwi teams, I think they’ve only played Hurricanes and Highlanders but how great to see these players performing!! I also see Parling has a job beyond June 30! A good move by RA? Also how do you fix the Rebels previously scratchy defence?
86 Go to commentsbe smart - go black
13 Go to commentsNext week the Crusaders hopefully have Scott Barrett back. Will be great to have the captain back. Hopefully he will be the All Black captain as well.
12 Go to commentsExciting place to be for the young fella. I expected he was French Polynesian when I saw him included in the France 6N squad (after seeing him in NZs), and therefor be strong grounds we might loose him to rugby down here. Good, in that he is good enough to warrant such a profile, and from a journalism’s fan interaction aspect, to finally get a back ground story on the fella. Hope he has settled into NZ OK and that at least one rugby country will fit with him to help his development, which, if so, he should surely continue for a few years, and then that he can experience France to it’s fullest with a bit more maturity and less reliance on family than you would have at his current age. A good 3 or 4 years before he would be ready for International duty if he wanted to wait. Of course he already sounds good enough to accept a call up, and to cap himself, in the more immediate future (he’d have to be very very good in the case of the ABs), and he’ll get a great taste of that being with the Canes who have a bunch who are just a few years further into their career and looking likely Internationals themselves.
13 Go to commentsI remember towards the end of the original broadcasting deal for Super rugby with Newscorp that there was talk about the competition expanding to improve negotiations for more money - more content, more cash. Professional rugby was still in its infancy then and I held an opposing view that if Super rugby was a truly valuable competition then it should attract more broadcasters to bid for the rights, thereby increasing the value without needing to add more teams and games. Unfortunately since the game turned professional, the tension between club, talent and country has only grown further. I would argue we’re already at a point in time where the present is the future. The only international competitions that matter are 6N, RC and RWC. The inter-hemisphere tours are only developmental for those competitions. The games that increasingly matter more to fans, sponsors and broadcasters are between the clubs. Particularly for European fans, there are multiple competitions to follow your teams fortunes every week. SA is not Europe but competes in a single continental competition, so the travel component will always be an impediment. It was worse in the bloated days of Super rugby when teams traversed between four continents - Africa, America, Asia and Australia. The percentage of players who represent their country is less than 5% of the professional player base, so the sense of sacrifice isn’t as strong a motivation for the rest who are more focused on playing professional rugby and earning as much from their body as they can. Rugby like cricket created the conundrum it’s constantly fighting a losing battle with.
9 Go to commentsOh wow… “But as La Rochelle proved in winning in Cape Town this season, a cross-continental away assignment need not spell the end of days.” La Rochelle actually proved quite the opposite. After traveling to Cape town and back they (back-to-back and current champs) got mercilessly thumped the next week. If travel is not the reason, why else would a full-strength powerhouse like La Rochelle get dumped on their @r$e$ one week later?
39 Go to commentsYou know he can land a winning conversion after the full time siren is up. (Even if it takes two attempts.)
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