Undercooked or overworked? Who's primed for Champions Cup success - Andy Goode
Will Saracens be overworked? Will Leinster be undercooked? The contrasting approaches of clubs in the all too short period between the Six Nations and Champions Cup quarter-finals have been intriguing and we’ll find out who got it right this weekend.
Mako Vunipola was the only available member of England’s starting XV against Ireland who didn’t start for his club at the weekend. Owen Farrell, George Kruis, Dylan Hartley and Anthony Watson were all injured.
In contrast, Jacob Stockdale and Iain Henderson were the only Ireland starters to be in the starting XV for their club and that’s because Ulster don’t have a game this coming weekend.
The argument around how much rugby the England players, in particular, have been playing has been well documented but it’ll be interesting to see whether the freshness of a week off or the cohesion of a week playing together will bear fruit.
| Number of minutes played at the weekend by starters in Six Nations Round 5 |
Leinster | 0 |
Munster | 0 |
Clermont | 0 |
La Rochelle | 46 |
Scarlets | 66 |
Toulon | 80 |
Racing 92 | 80 |
Saracens | 328 |
In my view, EPCR should delay the quarter-finals by a week in future seasons but for now coaches have a difficult decision to make.
Some coaches want their first-choice side to have played together so they’re ready for a big game and others want to make sure their internationals are well rested so will give them a week off. We’ll see after this weekend which approach is best but a three-week gap between the end of the Six Nations and the European quarter-finals would take that dilemma out of the equation.
Leinster sent a weakened side to Ospreys and could afford to do so because they’re in a very healthy position in their league. Saracens didn’t have that luxury because they had a big game at London Stadium and the battle for a top two place in the Premiership is so fierce.
Sarries won and will take that confidence and momentum into the weekend’s game at the Aviva Stadium. Leinster lost and, although they’ll have their stars back and fresh, they’re relying on them clicking straight back into the systems used at club level.
Number of starters in Six Nations Round 5 that started for their clubs at the weekend | |
Ireland | 2 |
Scotland | 3 |
Italy | 3 |
Wales | 9 |
France | 9 |
England | 10 |
The last time Leinster’s first choice side all played together was in January and two months is a long time in rugby.
I saw a photo of Rob Kearney, Conor Murray, Peter O’Mahony and Keith Earls keeping out of the sun in a nice fish restaurant I know well at the Westin Hotel in Dubai. Ultimately, the results will dictate whether that break was the right idea from the clubs’ point of view or not. If Leinster beat Saracens and Munster see off Toulon, then it’s a good move but they might get a bit of criticism if they don’t.
As a player, I would’ve liked to have a game under my belt the week before a big game in order to be battle-hardened but the game has changed in terms of the impact on the body and it’s all about the individual management of players nowadays.
There’s no perfect answer. If you win, you’re right. If you lose, you’re wrong.
Whether Farrell, Kruis and Billy Vunipola are fit will have a huge bearing on Saracens’ chances on Sunday. You only know whether they really are touch and go or if they’re being held back and are ready to be unleashed if you’re in camp with them but people will be waiting to see their names on the team sheet before picking the winner of that one.
Sarries fans and neutrals will be desperate to see Farrell, in particular, back and he’ll be itching to have another crack at Johnny Sexton in their personal duel after defeat at Twickenham a couple of weeks ago.
Leinster won every game in what many people said was the toughest pool on paper ahead of the start of the tournament and looked head and shoulders above the rest but that is irrelevant now. Knockout rugby is a different beast.
In 21 seasons of European Cup quarter-finals there have only been 19 away victories, which shows just how hard it is to win on the road in a big European tie, but Saracens have produced the last two of those at Racing and Ulster and I just feel they can do it again.
Not many people will be picking Toulon to win at Thomond Park but they’ve been building nicely, are in form and have a lot of power, the x-factor of Semi Radradra and Chris Ashton scoring tries for fun, so I can see them pulling off an upset.
Clermont lost 49-0 to Toulon at the weekend and confidence at that club must be incredibly low. They might be prioritising the Champions Cup given that they’re ninth in the Top 14 but Racing will fancy their chances at the Stade Marcel Michelin.
Scarlets v La Rochelle is the most exciting game and the hardest to pick for me. I might have gone for La Rochelle a couple of months ago but their form has dipped since January and they don’t have the experience at this level, so I expect the Scarlets to make it through.
It’s as tough to call as I can remember any set of quarter-finals being but I’m going for Saracens and Toulon to win away in Ireland with Scarlets and Clermont coming out on top at home.
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A wallaby front-row of Bell, Blake and Tupou…now that would be hefty
1 Go to comments“But with an exceptional pass accuracy rating “ Which apart from Roigard is not a feature of any of the other 9s in NZ. Kind of basic for a Black 9 dont.you. think? Yet we keep seeing FC and TJ being rated ahead of him? Weird if it’s seen as vital to get our backline beating in your face defences.
1 Go to commentsThanks BeeMc! Looks like many teams need extra time to settle from the quadrennial northern migration. I think generally the quality of the Rugby has held up. Fiji has been fantastic and fun to watch
13 Go to commentsLets compare apples with apples. Lyon sent weak team the week before, but nobody raised an eyebrow. Give the South African teams a few years to build their depth, then you will be moaning that the teams are too strong.
41 Go to commentsDid footballs agents also perform the scout role at some time? I’m surprised more high profile players haven’t taken up the occupation, great way to remain in the game and use all that experience without really requiring a lot of specific expertise?
1 Go to commentsSuper rugby is struggling but that has little to do with sabbaticals. 1. Too many teams from Aust and NZ - should be 3 and 4 respectively, add in 2 from Japan, 1 possibly 2 from Argentina. 2. Inconsistent and poor refereeing, admittedly not restricted to Super rugby. Only one team was reffed at the breakdown in Reds v H’Landers match. Scrum penalty awarded in Canes v Drua when No 8 had the ball in the open with little defence nearby - ideal opportunity to play advantage. Coming back to Reds match - same scrum situation but ref played advantage - Landers made 10 yards and were penalised at the breakdown when the ref should have returned to scrum penalty. 3. Marketing is weak and losing ground to AFL and NRL. Playing 2 days compared with 4. 4. Scheduling is unattractive to family attendance. Have any franchises heard of Sundays 2pm?
11 Go to commentsAbsolutely..all they need is a chance in yhe playoffs and I bet all the other teams will be nervous…THEY KNOW HOW TO WIN IM THE PLAYOFFS..
2 Go to commentsI really hope he comes back and helps out with some coaching.
1 Go to commentsI think we are all just hoping that the Olympic 7s doesn’t suffer the same sad fate as the last RWC with the officials ruining the spectacle.
1 Go to commentsPersonally, I’ve lost the will to even be bothered about the RFU, the structure, the participants. It’s all a sham. I now simply enjoy getting a group of friends together to go and watch a few games a year in different locations (including Europe, the championship, etc). I feel extremely sorry for the real fans of these clubs who are constantly ignored by the RFU and other administrators. I feel especially sorry for the fans of clubs in the Championship who have had considerable central funding stripped away and are then expected to just take whatever the RFU put to them. Its all a sham, especially if the failed clubs are allowed to return.
10 Go to commentsI’m guessing Carl Hayman would have preferred to have stayed in NZ with benefit of hindsight. Up north there is the expectation to play twice as many games with far less ‘player management’ protocols that Paul is now criticising. Less playing through concussions means longer, healthier, careers. Carter used as the eg here by Paul, his sabbatical allowed him to play until age 37. OK its not an exact science but there is far more expectations on players who sign for Top 14 or Engl Prem clubs to get value for the huge salaries. NZR get alot wrong but keeping their best players in NZ rugby is not one of them. SA clubs are virtually devoid of their top players now, no thanks. They cant threaten the big teams in the Champions Cup, the squads have little depth. Cant see Canes/Chiefs struggling. Super has been great this year, fantastic high skill matches. Drua a fantastic addition and Jaguares will add another quality team eventually. Aus teams performing strongly and no doubt will benefit with the incentive of a Lions tour and a home RWC. Let Jordie enjoy his time with Leinster, it will allow the opportunity for another player to emerge at Canes in his absence.
11 Go to commentsLove that man, his way to despise angry little men is so funny ! 😂
4 Go to comments“South African franchises would be powerhouses if we had all our overseas based players back in situ. We would have the same unbeatable aura the Toulouses, Leinsters or Saracens of this world have had over the last decade or so.” Proof that Jake white does not understand the economics of the game in SA. Players earning abroad are not going to simply come back and represent the bulls. But they might if they have a springbok contract.
24 Go to commentsA lot of fans just joined in for the fun of it! We all admire O'Gara and what he has done for La Rochelle
4 Go to commentsThe RFU will find a way to mess this up as usual. My bet is there will be no promotion into the the Premiership, only relegation into National League One. Hopefully they won’t parachute failed clubs into the league at the expense of clubs who have battled for promotion.
10 Go to commentsWell that’s the contracts for RG and Jordie bought and paid for. Now, what are the chances we can persuade Antoine to hop over with all the extra dosh we’ll have from living at the Aviva & Croke next season…??? 🤑🤑🤑
35 Go to commentsWow, that’s incredible. Great for rugby.
35 Go to commentsYou probably read that parling is going to coach the wallaby lineout but if not before now you have.
17 Go to commentsIf someone like Leo Cullen was in O’Gara’s place I don’t hear Boo-ing. It’s not just that La Rochelle has hurt Leinster and O’Gara is their Irish boss. It’s the needle that he brings and the pantomime activity before the game around pretending that Munster were supporting LaRochelle just because O’Gara is from Cork. That’s dividing Irish provinces just to get an advantage for his French Team. He can F*ck right off with that. BOOOOO! (but not while someone is lying injured)
4 Go to commentsDid the highlanders party too hard before the game? They were the pits.
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