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Addressing the 'obvious place to start' in Les Kiss' Wallabies evolution

Jeremy Williams of the Wallabies looks dejected during the Nations Championship match between Australia Wallabies and France at Suncorp Stadium on July 11, 2026 in Brisbane, Australia. (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)
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It was clear from day one that defence was to change under new Wallabies head coach Les Kiss, and he has immediately demanded a new mindset for his defensive game plan.

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“One thing is for certain, that we want to make sure that we make it a weapon for us, so we can attack with it,” said Kiss after revealing his first-ever Wallabies squad at Allianz Stadium in Sydney.

“We are gonna take small steps; we don’t want to go in and change everything, or make massive change, we want to make sure we make the right steps.”

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While nothing has actually been said about how the Wallabies will defend, you should take Kiss’s words here to mean one thing: physicality.

Scott McLeod is the Wallabies defence coach, and during his extensive time at the All Blacks he had the fortune to work with some really dominant tacklers.

Mix this desire from Kiss for an aggressive defence with the blueprint of a coach who has worked with dominant hitters, and you will get a hard-nosed defensive system.

However, for those hoping this will be a shift towards an all-out rush-defence like the Springboks, don’t hold your breath; that has neither been a significant part of McLeod’s resume nor Kiss’ MO at the Reds with his then defence coach Brad Davis.

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This aside, make no mistake, more speed will be brought into the defensive line; this will likely present on the edges and when the Wallabies choose to inject speed into their shape, but an all-out rush it is unlikely to be.

As with everything about this new Wallabies coaching team, it will be “evolution not revolution.”

“One thing that Kissy has been pretty clear with the group on is this evolution not revolution. I would like to think that you’ll see consistency with aspects of the game that you’ve seen previously,” new assistant coach Jonathan Fisher told reporters in Sydney.

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Nevertheless, Kiss has repeatedly said that he wants to let his “coaches coach” and to “empower them to bring who they are to the table,” and this will undoubtedly bring change. 

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This should be taken as the coaches being allowed to own and add their flavour to their designated sector of coaching, for Kiss, unlike his predecessor, is not a micromanager.

He will instead balance the technical with the emotional, and this could be the “evolution” that the team needs after showing peaks of excellent play mixed with troughs in direction and energy during Schmidt’s tenure.

So this leaves us with a mandate of abrasiveness, to turn pressure into turnover from big impact in the contact.

“It’s (defence) an obvious place to start… we do wanna make sure that we can find out where we are when we don’t have the ball, and we feel if we can ignite that part of the game even further and create that type of pressure and turnovers we can, we’ve got some handy players who can do something with it in those situations,” Kiss told reporters in Sydney on Friday.

This talk from Kiss should excite fans as it speaks of a type of ruck counterattack mindset akin to Dave Rennie, who is well known for having a lethal counterattack.

Kiss says defence is an “obvious” place to start and you’d have to agree, because it is no secret that the Wallabies leak way too many points, and in the age of attacking rugby that number will climb unless changes are made.

Numerically, the Wallabies have conceded an average of 27.5 points per game, whilst scoring an average of 25 points per game from their last 18 Test matches since the beginning of 2025.

Scoring 25 points is a totally acceptable Test standard; conceding that many is not.

As it has been for several years, should the Wallabies concede more than 23 points, their chance of winning decreases significantly.

Therefore, Wallabies fans should expect a defensive evolution with a result not too different in the raw optics of that of Lord Laurie Fisher’s connected line speed defence, as opposed to a shape resembling that of Ireland or the Springboks.

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But as mentioned prior, the biggest change will come from what happens in and around the tackle once it is made.

We have already seen throughout the Wallabies’ July Nations Championship campaign that there are plenty of ready-made hitters in the squad and now Kiss has gone and added some more.

They don’t come much tougher than Allan Alaalatoa, who regularly melted Irish opponents in Sydney.

Fraser McReight, alongside a much-improved Josh Canham, are definitely capable of whacking opposition when the moment takes their fancy, but that mood is expected to be more common under McLeod.

In the backline, Carter Gordon is one of the staunchest defenders in the No.10 jersey globally; the inside centres of Len Ikitau and Hunter Paisami are both big-time hitters, and at No.13 Joseph-Aukuso Suaalii is absolutely a defensive aggressor.

Further out, Dylan Pietsch and Filipo Daugunu are both great dominant tacklers; even Max Jorgensen can get amongst the tough stuff when he chooses his moments.

Kiss took out Nick Champion de Crespigney, Tom Hooper, and Ikitau; funnily enough, all three are big-time defensive powerhouses.

In their stead, he has brought in Lukhan Salakaia-Loto, Isaac Aedo Kailea, and Isaac Henry. 

LSL has some of the most impressive dominant tackle stats in Super Rugby Pacific, while Kailea has always been ready to sit attackers on their backsides.

The players who will benefit the most from McLeod’s tutelage are big-time stars like captain Harry Wilson, Suaalii, Jorgensen, and a few others, all of whom will be taking away different lessons.

Wilson is a workhorse as well as an extremely high-IQ and skilful player, but he has not generally been a dominant tackler.

In 2026, Wilson took big strides in this area but still missed far too many, and big hits are not a mainstay of his game at Test level yet.

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McLeod is sure to change that and ensure all his vigour and determination can be channelled into his hits.

Previously, Wilson has been seen as getting into arm tackles and perhaps not getting as much shoulder into contacts as he would like.

Being able to unlock his footwork to execute a well-timed hit will serve Wilson and the Wallabies well.

Suaalii has the aggressive part of defence down pat; few hit as hard as he does when he gets his timing right, but He will greatly benefit from learning to read an attack line and perfect his timing.

Throughout Suaalii’s short Test career, opposition have exposed his channel time and time again, and it’s not that he’s not athletic enough but rather that he has not positioned himself right or has jammed when he has needed to stay in a holding pattern.

Paisami is another player who will benefit from perfecting his timing of when to sit and when to go.

While McLeod will not employ a Springboks rush defence, there is no doubt he will see Suaalii’s aggression in defence as an augment to his defensive system rather than a thorn in its side.

Few are as exciting as Jorgensen with the ball in hand, but without it, Jorgensen has left much to be desired.

During the July Nations Championship, Jorgensen tackled at 70%, making 14 tackles of 20. Now, while this may not seem like an issue, when you’re part of a connected line speed defence as it was under prior head coach, Joe Schmidt, that number on the edge is far too high.

In comparison, Suaalii tackled at 91 percent, Ikitau tackled at 78 percent, and Pietsch, across his two games, tackled at 93 percent, making 14/15 tackles.

Physicality and strength are not the issue for young Jorgensen; rather, it’s a question of positioning and being able to find himself in dominant positions rather than compromised situations.

Once McLeod has been able to sharpen the skills of this squad, it will come down to bedding in and implementing the system.

As mentioned, there is nothing that indicates McLeod would diverge from his prior teachings at the All Blacks and Japanese side Kabuto Spears. 

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He has been a connected linespeed man but definitely different to Fisher.

McLeod appears to be more focused on the physicality in contact around the ball, whether that is in a tackle or at the resulting ruck, and that is something Wallabies fans should be watching for.

When Kiss spoke of making defence a weapon, and assistant coach Jonathan Fisher described his role as a coach that will help with ‘transition attack’, it strongly points to an aggressive counter-rucking defensive mindset alongside McLeod’s border blueprint.

“To be specific… my responsibility will be really to bring the very best out of the forwards from an attacking perspective, to make sure that when we get those very brief and limited opportunities that you do get and only get in Test rugby, that we take the space immediately.”

Dominant contacts, big hitters, and being able to attack off counterrucked ball all seem within the blueprint of McLeod and in line with what Kiss and Fisher served up with the Queensland Reds throughout 2026.

While this coaching cohort has committed to not uprooting the foundation which was laid by Schmidt and his cohort of coaches, there is no doubt that the system needs a tweak because during Schmidt’s tenure, the defence was rarely a sure thing.

Kiss and his men are an exciting bunch, but they are relatively inexperienced, and so the Wallabies and their fans are now heading into the unknown and can only wait in anticipation for that first Test in the new era against Japan in Osaka on August 8.

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Two Cents 43 days ago

The only difference between attack and defence in mindset is with one you have the ball and the other you don't. But you essentially have to approach both the same way.


The goal whether you have the ball or not is to manipulate the opposition into playing in a way that lets you play the way you want and prevents them from playing the way they want.


And part of how you achieve that is through exploiting vulnerabilities and weaknesses in how the opposition defends against you as well as how effectively you contain them when they're on attack.


The single biggest way in which opposing teams have been able to build pressure against the Wallabies has been through denying them the forward progress and momentum when they have the ball, particularly inside the 22.


This inability to crack through the opposition then results in frustration and loss of concentration which eventually flows into errors and infringements.


And it creeps into every aspect of the game making it impossible for the side to drag themselves back into the contest once they invariably fall behind.


Kind of what the Wallabies used to be best known for doing to other teams is now what they're all doing to the Wallabies. And so far no Australian brain's trust has figured out how to reverse it back to how it was, constantly falling victim to it instead.


The idea of attack through defence is far from a new idea generally and it's certainly not a new idea at all inside Australian rugby.


But far too much effort has been on turning Australian rugby into a gleaming shiny entertainment product with tries galore that can have appeal beyond those of us who grew up with the game and love the game already.


While it would seem obvious that if your key brand is associated with chronic defeat that runs entirely counter to its market appeal, that's the direction the administrators have been wanting to take the game and so the performances have declined as a result.


And it has affected the junior levels of course because the funding that would normally be spread as widely as possible to generate the most benefit has instead been concentrated into a handful of marquee programs and systems.


You cannot shrink to greatness, as the saying goes. Yet this is precisely what rugby administrators have been doing to Australian rugby for over 20 years.


And just as the game off the field has shrunk, so too has the game on it with the Wallabies' attack being increasingly narrow and their defence increasingly shallow.


This has led to them becoming predictable and easy to manipulate. It's why even against weakened Irish and French sides they never got themselves in control of the game despite arguably being closer to full strength and definitely starting both games with dominance up front.


Once the Irish and French worked out the Wallabies game plan it was easy for them to handle it, constantly recycling out of ruck after ruck and maintaining their defensive shape as they simply drifted with in concert with the Wallabies attack, containing them until they made a mistake.


The contrast to the final game of July against Italy is stark. They literally dominated in every conceivable metric aside from possession and territory and played in a manner that was akin to the teams of yore rather than the crap they've trundled out for most of the past 25 years.


Gone was the wastefulness in possession, gone was the baffling miscommunication, gone were the panicked brain explosions and gone too was the chronic lethargy that has characterised the Wallabies for so long.


In their place was decisive playmaking, incisive carrying, complete control at the breakdown, rumbling mauling, set piece dominance and above all an intensity that has been missing for most of the years since their last triumph being the TRC win in 2014.


Together with the record-breaking win at Ellis Park last year shows that the players currently in the Wallabies program have the skills and ability to beat anyone even when they make life hard for themselves.


But such performances are bought at great emotional cost that is hard if not impossible to replicate and are certainly not something you can perform reliably on the reg or sustain over time.


I reiterate that if the overtures made by Kiss and his assistants Fisher and McLeod are reliable and mean what we all think they mean then that should translate into exactly the sort of comprehensive solution the Wallabies have been needing and which addresses all of the failures I have mentioned here and previously.

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Olly 45 days ago

Most definitely D is where they can have an immediate impact. They clearly have the objective to make the D system into an attacking weapon. At a guess I think JS objective was to fix the attacking maul and set piece. Now Kiss can use these improvements and work more on attack and particularly D.

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lk 45 days ago

Informative article, cheers mate

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Tooly 45 days ago

The Reds defence was one of the poorest in Super Rugby . Les certainly needed help .

We will see how it goes .

Some BS about the defending ability of some of our players here particularly Gordon and Jorgenson .

Our tens seem to be left to do a lot of defence . Most in world rugby are not .

Their channel 20 metres x 20 metres must be covered by 7 , 8 and 12 . The 7 and 8 should own this square in defence and let the 10 use the ball .

Donaldson avoids contact of any kind most tens do .

Our tens have not had enough protection under the high ball either . I suggest that Wilson is not doing his job where he is needed .He should stick with his ten .

A lot of the problem is that our locks are not great defensive players and Wilson and Vallentini have to compensate .

Lastly stats mean very little.

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John 45 days ago

So you think Gordon is a poor defender and Jorgensen is a good defender.


Are you speakin specifically off a lineout? for in general defences don’t really look like a 10 at first defender?


I agree that more needs to be done on kick receipt.


I would argue our locks are great at defence, and which stats are meaning very little? But I would agree that again, they are not the be all or end all.

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AM 45 days ago

Poor article. You fail to mention that the wallabies have had a poor maul defence, which gives up a lot of points. That is a size issue. Schmidt routinely picks undersized teams. He needs to bring in Amatesero and LSL and ditch Wilson, who has poor physicality, for Bobby V at 8 and Hopper on open side. Also bring in Jordan Uelese who is more physical than the other hookers and has a very good scrummaging record at Montpelier who had the best scrum in the top 14.


Not clear that Kiss will learn those lessons as QLD have a small team as well and he is overly loyal to Wilson.

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Two Cents 44 days ago

Poor maul defence is only one part of the equation and was in no way contributory to their recent defeats to Ireland and France.


Where they were beaten most consistently was in the loose in and around the breakdown where they were never able to get either side to commit more numbers than they did because Wallabies players were always too slow to get back in sufficient strength to control it and force that commit.


They also couldn't sucker in the edge defenders which meant that when trying to use the ball beyond the inside channels they would always run into a solid wall where they were expecting gaps to appear.


Maul defence or your claimed lack thereof had nothing to do with how Ireland and France scored their points.


Their tries almost entirely came from Wallabies mistakes in general play or from conceding penalties which the much more intent and focused Irish and French sides exploited mercilessly thanks to a chronic inability of Wallabies players to get back on side and get behind the play of the ball.


The Wallabies in fact had dominance through the maul and particularly in the line out earlier on in both matches and had they taken full advantage of it in the way that both Ireland and France did in general play later on they probably would have won.


As much as I favour a larger pack full of hard hitting types, that alone is not the answer and only fixes some issues whilst creating or exacerbating others.


You need a balance and for the moment the Wallabies haven't had that balance right. Once they do get it right, I think we will see such things have far less negative impact.

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John 45 days ago

Big call to call it a poor article over the fact that I did not address one specific set-piece defence piece, when it’s clearly an article about the broader system. What I will say is that maul defence can be a size thing but it’s most definitely a technique thing, because our scrums are not getting demolished.


I think size will help but I don’t think that is the end all or be all.

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Ardy 45 days ago

Interesting, I would want to see the guys develop a counter rucking mindset, we rarely use it.

The change in D is obviously our greatest weakness. Laurie D is past it’s use by date, and we need to bring in another league D coach urgently. I guess Les would love to do this, but is it politically OK for rugby?

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Over the sideline 45 days ago

Well Kiss is a league coach so how can politicw come in to it?

i think that’s a big issue in Aus. Guys who never played Union are trying to tell the players what to do.

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John 45 days ago

Let’s see how McLeod and co go for the first little bit. Can’t count the chickens as they say.

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