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Steve Hansen: All Blacks have found 'something that's been missing the last couple years'


Ardie Savea with ex-New Zealand head coach Sir Graham Henry during the Nations Championship match between the All Blacks and France at One New Zealand Stadium. (Photo by Joe Allison - Nations Championship/Nations Championship via Getty Images)
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Sir Steve Hansen says it’s an “exciting time” to be an All Blacks fan after a clean sweep of the July Tests under new head coach Dave Rennie.

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The former Test coach, known as one of the greats after leading New Zealand to 2015 Rugby World Cup glory, was full of praise for the newcomer Rennie, whom he’d squared off with plenty of times as coach of Toyota Verblitz against Rennie’s Kobe Steelers in Japan Rugby League One over recent seasons.

Hansen was positive on Rennie’s appointment from the outset, saying “he’s no dummy” when reflecting on the wealth of experience under Rennie’s belt that he will have learned from in his stints in Europe and with the Wallabies.

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Hansen went on to commend Rennie’s communication skills, saying “when he talks, it makes sense.”

After New Zealand’s latest win, a 40-21 victory over Ireland at Eden Park, Hansen was singing a similar tune.

“I thought they really had clarity in their game; everyone understood what was required,” Hansen told the Rugby Unity podcast. “Their start was strong; they went out with a real purpose and physicality, and the skill level — they’re starting to get their timing and an understanding of how they can keep the ball alive.

“It was pretty good to watch, to be fair. It was back to our strengths of how we’ve played in the past. If they keep doing that, if they keep growing, and they look tight and united as a group — which is something I think that’s been missing in the last couple of years.

“I think it’s a pretty exciting time if you’re an All Blacks fan.”

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Exciting New Zealand fans the most will be their team’s attack, which produced 18 tries with the most carries and metres carried of any team in the inaugural Nations Championship through three games. Hansen said the team is thriving by using the multiple strings to the players’ bows.

“I think their running game is allowing them to kick smarter,” he explained. “If you look at the types of kicks they’re putting in, you’ve got Jordie Barrett putting the ball in behind, you’ve got Ruben Love finding 50/22s, they’re finding space with their kicking and forcing the opposition to readjust.

“Going back to the old days, we used to call it the triple threat game, where you could run it, kick it, or pass it. They’re starting to really hurt teams, build momentum in their own game around those three areas – and there’s still a long way to go – but each one of those three areas feeds the other. If you get them right, and your running lines are good, then all of a sudden you’re forcing teams to change how they defend, and they’re giving you space in behind, so your kicking game comes into it. Then you become a handful.”

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Ex-Wallabies head coach Ewen McKenzie was also full of praise for the All Blacks’ new game plan, and highlighted how a different attacking philosophy can make the upcoming Rugby’s Greatest Rivalry Tour all the more ‘great’.

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“I think the first high ball contest was at the nine-minute mark. We’ve been watching Test matches for the last 18 months, and it’s just been box kick, box kick, box kick. It’s just been about the aerial contest,” said McKenzie, one of the podcasters.

“If you switch to the South African game, those sorts of things are still in the exam, but there are other games now where there are other ways of playing. That type of kicking has dropped off, and it’s become the 13 putting the grubber through, or those sorts of attacking kicks.

“So, it is evolving. The All Blacks are showing a bit of a different direction for teams, because at the moment I think everyone’s been looking at the Springboks and going, how do we play like them? Or how do we match them? So you end up playing like them, looking for driving mauls and all of that.

“New Zealand has suddenly given us a different look at something else, showing reward for skill, and doing the fundamentals of rugby really well. It’s giving alternatives, which I think is great. It allows us to see the game played in different ways, successfully.

“Now, the South Africa-New Zealand series, tactically, is going to take on a whole new perspective because you’ve got contrasting styles. It’s going to be really interesting.”

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Jmann 21 days ago

So long as the refs put an end to time-wasting (endless props needing attention), keep teams onside and rule the rucks correctly then the ABs have every chance of being highly competitive in this series. It is the TMOs and French refs that must be avoided. Best ref selections would be: Nic Berry, Luke Pearce, Angus Gardner, and Karl Dickson. No French refs please!

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JW 21 days ago

It’s a big ‘if’ Jmann and not even sure it’s likely/plausible concept anymore.

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B 22 days ago

After only a month in charge, Dave Rennie, Neil Barnes, Mike Blair, Jason Ryan and Tana Umanga are ringing the changes to what it takes to be an All Black…TBC

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Lou Cifer 22 days ago

Aaaaah the good old “reward for skill” line. “The Boks are just brutes & show no skill in their game” kinda narrative. NZ still thinks the game should only be played the way they want to play it. All razzle dazzle ey


That kinda arrogance still coming through…..🙄

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JW 21 days ago

Downvoted based on your history and FC being a legend.


FYI everyting here more than a paragraph at this late stage is TLDR terrirtory! 🤣😜

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GodOfFriedChicken 22 days ago

I don’t think he was referring to the Boks at all. If anything, it’s praise for Rennie and (possibly) a dig at the way they played under Razor, where a lot of players looked hamstrung and unable to play like themselves under what regularly appeared to be overly constricting game plans, meaning that highly skilled players didn’t get the chance to properly show off those skills. We had Barrett and McKenzie, 10s known for a bit of improvisation, being made to kick the ball far more than they normally do (halfbacks too, box kicking way more than usual) and the ball rarely ever getting past the midfield to the wingers, some of whom regularly played out of their preferred wings. They were more concerned with trying to get to set-pieces (which has been more the Sprinboks bread and butter than it’s been the All Blacks) than playing to their skillsets. Thus far under Rennie, they’ve played under a system that actually allows them to use their skills and it’s looking like it’ll only improve with more time.

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Tim 22 days ago

Thats your quote mate. Don't think the Bokke got a mention from Hansen. It's not all about you all the time. Your guys have been smashing it for years now and you've not been too proud to let the rest of us know. Enjoy your time in the sun, it doesn't last forever.

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johnz 22 days ago

Cheeky Steve.


Now Hansen was a great coach, but he was also at the helm of the ABs at peak entitlement and complacency, which led to things becoming a bit stale. In fairness, it’s difficult not to fall into the trap of believing the sun shines out of places it shouldn’t after such a long period of success, but believe it they did. Foster’s appointment was a symptom of that malaise.


Now Steve is determined to ruin his legacy by constantly backing up his mate Foz by underming others. Clearly he has a chip on his shoulder and there are camps forming of us against them in NZ rugby which there is no place for in such a small community.


Razor was out of his depth, but so was Foz. Some of the most shameful performances in my memory were carried out under Foz - there was already something seriously wrong.


But Razor and Foz shared one thing - both appointments were made through flawed processes without correct due dilligence. That blame squarly sits with NZR, not either coach - who only did their best.


Luckily, NZR has done quite a remarkable job of re structuring itself, and the last appointment process was done properly. The results are clear to see.


So time to move on Steve. The last 6 years of Razor and Foz were a shambles, but you were in the thick of it in terms of the arrogance and chronyism that infected NZR from the top and led to both appointments.

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JW 21 days ago

In terms of “trajectory” it was that Hansen phase (as you suggest) then lead to Fozies appointment and the need for Razor to be on call at a moments notice when he otherwise should have been allowed to develop in the role from 2020 or asked to get more experience by moving clubs (no development in high performance of coaches, they simply did what they had to get the gig and all Razor had to do was wait with such an inept process and coach before him).


This is to say that Razors appointment was not flawed (he was actually an improvement after all), merely the process there didn’t see him elevated in 2022 or 2020 when it would have been more beneficial. For example this recent process is no less flawed, with the same ‘mates’ philosophy applied and the same lack of international experience as the previous appointments.

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Over the sideline 21 days ago

Geez you managed to make up a lot of rubbish in your post.

YEs Hansen was a great coach. Is still very highly regarded around the world for his innovation and his aplicating of those innovations. He coached a team to world cup success and is heavily sort after as a coaches mentor or a coaching consultant. Is that all on NZR too!

FOz was 1 point from a WC win, won 4 RCs on 4 years.

Perhaps get the big chip off ya shoulder and check reality.

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Zac 22 days ago

Yep..

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NucK 22 days ago

Totally agree. Personally I think Hansen road on Henry's coattails and that era of great players. When he had to adjust with retirements he didn't do a particularly great job IMO. I could be being harsh though..?

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WJ 22 days ago

Very balanced comments - thanks Johnz.

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GodOfFriedChicken 22 days ago

He doesn’t really mention Foz here though so this feels like a projection. And I am aware that he mentions the last couple of years but despite Foz being out of his depth, the style of rugby he tried to play (at least on attack) aligned a bit more with the identity that the All Blacks have been historically known for than the overly conservative style that Razor tried to force in the last couple of years, so I get his point. Unfortunately, much like Fozzie’s Chiefs and Waikato teams though, this was an exciting attack that was coupled with regular inconsistency and regular lapses in defense and concentration and that just gets magnified at the highest level. Razor on the other hand got away with the style of rugby he tried to instill in the All Blacks by having a greater share of NZ’s top forwards than his opposition, an advantage he didn’t quite have in test rugby.


I don’t think Fozzie should’ve been elevated in the first place given that he had never won at any level but I feel the problem was more with NZR than with Hansen. Of course he’d recommend his assistants, but NZR still had to make that decision.

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WJ 22 days ago

I take Steve Hansen’s point but saying “the last couple of years” is demeaning to Scott Robertson. It’s more like the last five or six years. There were some very clueless and clarity-lacking performances during the Isn Foster years also - the third test against Ireland in Wellington as bad as anything in living memory imo.

Let’s enjoy what’s happening now and drop the comparisons to the recent past.

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JW 21 days ago

Let’s enjoy what’s happening now and drop the comparisons to the recent past.

That’s like asking him to accept blame for the current situation and slide since 2017!

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Zac 22 days ago

Nothing compares with giving up 2nd Bok test in Wellington. Robertsons cards were marked then…RWC final.. 14 men

.Captain sent off..7 forwards ..

lost by one point.. never gave up…all Credit to Foster whatever his deficiencies..the players fronted for him because like Rennie he had established good relationships with them..not so with Robertson unfortunately.

And I wanted Robertson appointed…anti Cronyism and Foster's appointment .


Rennie has been doing a grt job in the rebuild .


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Blackmania 22 days ago

Hansen is protecting his former teammate and friend Foster, who also showed plenty of inconsistency on the field. Fortunately for him, he was later backed up by Ryan and Schmidt.

Unlike Robertson, though, Foster was a slightly better communicator (even if he was far from outstanding) and, above all, he was much more popular with his players. He was “Papa Foster,” after all.

Razor is certainly taking plenty of criticism, but at the same time, what Hansen is saying is fair.

Objectively speaking, Robertson has been the worst All Blacks coach of the professional era. It’s not even about his win percentage—that statistic means very little without proper context. There have been plenty of victories that failed to convince, sometimes achieved with a fair amount of luck, alongside some truly humiliating defeats.

He wasn’t good on the training field either and he was just as poor off the field, with his utterly baffling communication. It’s hard to do much worse.

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PB 22 days ago

You won't see Hansen dissing his mate Fozzie ever mate

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Spew_81 22 days ago

More like since RWC 2015.


Historically weak Australian and South African Super Rugby teams, and Wallabies Springboks in 2016 and 2017, papered over the cracks.


When the All Blacks faced top quality opposition: Ireland 2016 and Lions 2017, the warning signs were clear - and ignored.

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Locke 22 days ago

That’s right and it’s closer to eight years, and Hansen also contributed to the All Blacks’ decline.

His late tenure was shaky, and he was instrumental in pushing the very average Foster into the top job. Without Schmidt stepping in, the whole thing would’ve been a complete disaster.

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ColinK 22 days ago

yet a kick 1m to the right and they would have been world champions. But yes it does go deeper that just razor.

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