18 and out: All the talking points from the final weekend of the Six Nations
What went on in Paris, how the English loss might work in their favour, Vern’s send-off, and what Warren Gatland said.
The French
Whatever Les Bleus covered themselves in during their heated final match of the 2017 Six Nations against Wales in Paris, it wasn’t glory. It smells like something else entirely.
Tournament organisers examining the match have three things to consider: Uini Atonio’s apparently convenient head injury, the bite on George North’s arm and post-match comments from France lock Yoann Maestri.
Proving the French medical team did not suspect a head injury will be almost impossible: the player’s word (he told referee Wayne Barnes he had a sore back) is almost irrelevant. Regardless, the French will find themselves in hot water if it can be proved a coach left the technical area – which they are not allowed to do – to consult with the doctor while Slimani was warming up.
North showed Barnes a bite mark on his arm and claimed that Brice Dulin had bitten him, but no conclusive video evidence was available to the TMO. The citing commissioner, however, will have more time to check the tapes, and if the review finds conclusive evidence over where the bite came from, whoever did it can expect a long ban.
And in an incendiary post-match interview, Yoann Maestri said: “Anglo-Saxon referees always talk about fair play but the reality is that they think we’re cheats. There’s a complicity between Anglo-Saxons and it is in these moments that you realise it. It was unbelievable.”
The authorities are going to take a dim view of such blatant questioning of a referee’s integrity. A fine, even a ban, is very possible.
I, Referee
Opinions about Wayne Barnes would keep many a bar-room rugby conversation going from opening time to long after the staff have knocked off and the lights have been turned off. But his latest outing could take up an entire evening on its own – even if you decided to limit the boundaries of the debate to the never-ending finale.
But let’s be honest: he handled the game and the rising pressure in a febrile atmosphere better than just about anyone else could have done. Barring an apparent inconsistency between dealing with Welsh and French deliberate knock-ons, he was pretty much spot-on in with the vast majority of his decisions. There were a couple that could have gone the other way, but there are those in every match.
In drawing definitive statements from key individuals over Uini Atonio’s head injury that allowed scrum-wrecker Rabah Slimani to return at a crucial time – both player and team doctor were questioned repeatedly – he ensured they would be stuck with that defence in any future investigation. He was clearly suspicious, but equally, could not defy a doctor’s word over a player’s medical condition at the time. He merely ensured that the review tapes clearly revealed what was being said.
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18 and out…
England’s winning streak ended in Dublin, leaving them tied with New Zealand on 18 for the most consecutive wins for a Tier one nation. The 13-9 defeat prompted much mirth from other parts of the rugby world – notably New Zealand – and a warning from Eddie Jones. “That was like a World Cup final today and we weren’t good enough,” he warned. “But we’re better off having that experience today than in Yokohama stadium at 8 pm on the second of November, 2019.”
The message is simple. England has not suddenly become a bad side, but they have been carrying some issues that may have been ignored by their continuing run – not least the long-term future of a number of players, including captain Dylan Hartley.
England’s own history bears out Jones’ words. In 2001, they lost a match against Ireland that they really should have won. Two years later, minds concentrated and ruthless edges sharpened, they won the World Cup.
No one is saying that what happened in 2017 will lead to a repeat in 2019 of what happened in 2003 (follow that?), but if there’s a time to lose in a World Cup cycle, more than two years out from the tournament is probably the best time.
So long, Vern
Scotland gave Vern Cotter the send-off he deserved. Three wins in the Six Nations for the first time since 2006, new try and points standards, and a new verve and marauding spirit. It is widely known that SRU bosses forced his departure earlier than he wanted to go. Cotter has kept a dignified counsel about the abrupt end of his tenure and, wisely, let his coaching and his players do the talking on the pitch. Recently, Murrayfield held no fear for the likes of Wales, Ireland, England and France. Suddenly it’s a scary place again – as Wales and Ireland will testify. That’s Cotter’s legacy, and it has left his replacement Gregor Townsend with great expectations to fill.
The Lions
Lions’ coach Warren Gatland was heard wondering about the lack of away wins outside Rome in this Six Nations tournament. Anyone would think he had a 10-match tour in New Zealand to worry about…
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I bet he inspired those supporters just as much.
1 Go to commentsBen Smith Springboks living rent free in his head 😊😂
67 Go to commentsGood to hear he would like to play the game at the highest level, I hadn’t been to sure how much of a motivator that was before now. Sadly he’s probably chosen the rugby club to go to. Try not to worry about all the input about how you should play rugby Joey and just try to emulate what you do on the league field and have fun. You’ll limit your game too much (well not really because he’s a standard athlete like SBW and he’ll still have enough) if you’re trying to make sure you can recycle the ball back etc. On the other hard, you can totally just try and recycle by looking to offload any and everywhere if you’re going to ground 😋
1 Go to commentsThis just proves that theres always a stat and a metric to use to justify your abilities and your success. Ben did it last week by creating an imaginary competition and now you did the same to counter his argument and espouse a new yardstick for success. Why not just use the current one and lets say the Boks have won 4 world cups making them the most successful world cup team. Outside of the world cup the All Blacks are the most successful team winning countless rugby championships and dominating the rankings with high win percentages. Over the last 4 years statistically the Irish are the best having the highest win rate and also having positive records against every tier 1 side. The most successful Northern team in the game has been England with a world cup title and the most six nations titles in history. The AB’s are the most dominant team in history with the highest win rate and 3 world cups. Lets not try to reinvent the wheel. Just be honest about the actual stats and what each team has been good at doing and that will be enough to define their level of success.
19 Go to commentsHow is 7’s played there? I’m surprised 10 or 11 man rugby hasn’t taken off. 7 just doesn’t fit the 15s dynamics (rules n field etc) but these other versions do.
7 Go to commentsPick Swinton at your peril A liability just like JWH from the Roosters Skelton ??? went missing at RWC
14 Go to commentsLike tennis, who have a ranking system, and I believe rugby too, just measure over each period preceding a world cup event who was the longest number one and that would be it. In tennis the number one player frequently is not the grand slam winner. I love and adore the All Blacks since the days of Ian Kirkpatrick when I was a kid in SA. And still do because they are the masters of running rugby and are gentleman on and off the field - in general. And in my opinion they have been the majority of the time the best rugby team in the world.
19 Go to commentsHaving overseas possessions in 2024 is absurd. These Frenchies should have to give the New Caledonians their freedom.
21 Go to commentsBell injured his foot didn’t he? Bring Tupou in he’ll deliver when it counts. Agree mostly but I would switch in the Reds number 8 Harry Wilson for Swinton and move Rob Valentini to 6 instead. Wilson is a clever player who reads the play, you can’t outmuscle the AB’s and Springboks, if you have any chance it’s by playing clever. Same goes for Paisami, he’s a little guy who doesn’t really trouble the likes of De Allende and Jordie Barrett. I’d rather play Carter Gordon at 12 and put Michael Lynagh’s boy at 10. That way you get a BMT type goalkicker at 10 and a playmaker at 12. Anyways, just my two cents as a Bok supporter.
14 Go to commentsThanks Brett, love your articles which are alway pertinent. It’s a difficult topic trying to have a panel adjudicating consistently penalties for red card issues. Many of the mitigating reasons raised are judged subjectively, hence the different outcomes. How to take away subjective opinions?
9 Go to commentsYes Sir! Surprising, just like Fraser would also have escaped sanction if he was a few inches lower, even if it was by accident that he missed! Has there really been talk about those sanctions or is this just sensational journalism? I stopped reading, so might have missed any notations.
9 Go to commentsAI is only as good as the information put in, the nuances of the sport, what you see out the corner of the eye, how you sum up in a split second the situation, yes the AI is a tool but will not help win games, more likely contribute to a loss, Rugby Players are not robots, all AI can do if offer a solution not the solution. AI will effect many sports, help train better golfers etc.
45 Go to commentsIt couldn’t have been Ryan Crotty. He wasn’t selected in either World Cup side - they chose Money Bill instead. And Money Bill only cared about himself, and that manager he had, not the team.
28 Go to commentsYawn 🥱 nobody would give a hoot about this new trophy. End of the day we just have to beat Ireland and NZ this year then they can finally shut up 🤐
19 Go to commentsTalking bout Ryan Crotty? Heard Crotty say in a interview once that SBW doesen't care about the team . He went on to say that whenever they lost a big game, SBW would be happy as if nothing happened, according to him someone who cares would look down.. Personally I think Crotty is in the wrong, not for feeling gutted but for expecting others 2 be like him… I have been a bad loser forever as it matters so much to me but good on you SBW for being able to see the bigger picture….
28 Go to commentsThis sounds like a WWE idea so Americans can also get excited about rugby, RUGBY NEEDS A INTERNATIONAL CALENDER .. The rugby Championship and Six Nations can be held at same time, top 3 of six nations and top 3 of Rugby championship (6 nations should include Georgia AND another qualifying country while Fiji, Japan and Samoa/Tonga qualifier should make out 6 Southern teams).. Scrap June internationals and year end tours. Have a Elite top six Cup and the Bottom 6 in a secondary comp….
19 Go to commentsThe rugby championship would be even stronger with Fiji in it… I know it doesen’t fit the long term plans of NZ or Aus but you are robbing a whole nation of being able to see their best players play for Fiji…. Every second player in NZ and AUS teams has Fijian surnames… shame on you!!! World rugby won’t step in either as France and England has now also joined in…. I guess where money is involved it will always be the poor countries missing out….
90 Go to commentsNo surprise there. How hard can it be to pick a ball off the ground and chuck it to a mate? 😂
4 Go to commentsSometimes people just like a moan mate!
9 Go to commentsexcellent idea ! rugby needs this 💪
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