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The Short Ball - Season 3 - Episode 13 - Folau is creating a divide within the sport


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This week join Scotty, Mils, and special guest James McOnie as they get real about the impact of Israel Folau’s statements, talk about the losing streak Australian teams are on against our kiwi sides, and give a special shout out to the Highlanders’ forwards.

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CK 15 minutes ago
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I noted the same euphemism. Cynical, dangerous, illegal might have been adjectives worth considering.

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JW 19 minutes ago
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First, the only thing that needs to change is perspective. The only reason people (that’s potential viewers) think that is before of the poor standard the All Blacks have displayed since they won the 2015 RWC.

Super Rugby needs to move to a proper Trans-Tasman franchise model like the NRL. With New Zealanders allowed to play for non-New Zealand teams while still being eligible for the All Blacks.



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CK 19 minutes ago
'The Wallabies moved several steps closer to cracking the Springboks' DNA code'

Sarcasm is not yours. See my reply to NB below from 4 days ago.

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Ryan Lonergan on potential matchup with All Blacks star Cam Roigard

Lonergan seems unaware of Roigard’s most dangerous talent; the feigned collapse into unconsciousness. Ok, it hasn’t milked us any penalties yet, but sooner or later it must work.

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JD Kiwi 30 minutes ago
Dave Rennie is getting the band back together - but will the All Blacks veterans strike the right notes?

That goes against all the sports science. You need a proper off season and they aren't getting that.

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d 30 minutes ago
Dave Rennie is getting the band back together - but will the All Blacks veterans strike the right notes?

It would be nice to believe that our coaches are cleverly controlling the motivation of the ABs by not overloading them with the knowledge of not only Plan A, but also B and C.

However seeing them struggle to impart the basics of the set piece does cause me to doubt the existence of the cunning plan. In fact I question the approach of any coaching team who don’t aim to achieve the “ridiculously high bar” of previous performances.



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JD Kiwi 32 minutes ago
Dave Rennie is getting the band back together - but will the All Blacks veterans strike the right notes?

That's been the case for decades now and the floodgates have still only opened once - after the 07 RWC. No reason to think that’ll change.

Definitely they mucked up not giving love to RM and SF and they need to not repeat that mistake.



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JW 35 minutes ago
'The Wallabies moved several steps closer to cracking the Springboks' DNA code'

Yeah I don’t think Paisami was bad but I certainly wouldn’t call him firing, also more importantly, you don’t see him firing like you might do JAS on his debut again.

As Nick points out that probably has a lot to do with his confidence why it hasn’t been repeated more often. His new coach seems to have solved that by using specific plans, something Kiwi coaches are very against (isolated one player for special treatment).



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NoLongerARuck 47 minutes ago
‘Australia are hitting a sweet spot of Test experience; it’s exciting to think where they could get to over the next 12 months’

Yes and many of them hadnt played any competititve rugby in the last 2 months. They had just been training, some had even been injured

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NoLongerARuck 48 minutes ago
‘Australia are hitting a sweet spot of Test experience; it’s exciting to think where they could get to over the next 12 months’

What about Willemse, Kolbe, Libbok, Kriel, De Allende, SFM, Arendse all missing from the backs

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Two Cents 50 minutes ago
The biggest handbrake on the Wallabies’ momentum ahead of their Bledisloe Cup bid

I would've agreed with you once upon a time about everything you said. But I don't think so anymore. Lolo isn't demonstrably better than Donno or Meredith and HMP is yet to start.

Skelton creates a different sort of game plan to that which they're running quite successfully at the moment so I wouldn't change that right now even if we could.



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NoLongerARuck 50 minutes ago
‘Australia are hitting a sweet spot of Test experience; it’s exciting to think where they could get to over the next 12 months’

Yep, the question now is if they can rewrite the script

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NoLongerARuck 51 minutes ago
‘Australia are hitting a sweet spot of Test experience; it’s exciting to think where they could get to over the next 12 months’

When I looked at the Aus team to play SA I had the same thought, suddenly alot of “new” players werent very new at all. It is a side building nicely and if they can maintain consistency they will be in the sweet spot in terms of experience and age, this is a good youthful team. So physically and experience wise they should be prepared. This is a nice thought but what the team needs now is belief, consistency and cohesion. That can only be built with important wins, coaches willing to invest in players and the team environment. Kiss has selected well so far and has got some wins but you almost feel as though they have to win at least one of these Bledisloe tests just to build that belief. Wins against South Africa have never been a Wallabies problem. Wins against the All Blacks have recently become as impossible to acquire as yesterdays time. When the Boks went on to win the world cup in 2019 they cited the win in Wellington as the one that built the belief they needed to know they could beat the best in the world. The same could be true for these Wallabies. If they go on to lose the group match against NZ next year they will be in the somewhat easier side of the draw which would give them a more feasible route to the final. The stars do seem to be aligning but now is the time when they need to turn promise into wins.

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NH 1 hour ago
‘Australia are hitting a sweet spot of Test experience; it’s exciting to think where they could get to over the next 12 months’

Bingo MG. It is not smooth sailing for the rest of the year.

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NH 1 hour ago
‘Australia are hitting a sweet spot of Test experience; it’s exciting to think where they could get to over the next 12 months’

They’ll never lose again!

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NH 1 hour ago
The biggest handbrake on the Wallabies’ momentum ahead of their Bledisloe Cup bid

Realistically, the WBs have been good under the high ball for ONE game. They lost it against fra, ire, and arg x2 this year. It is also an area the ABs usually dominate historically. Not saying they can’t win it, just that i’m not locking it in as guys like ratima, mckenzie and w jordan are all class. Its also dependent on someone like suaalii being picked on the wing again who may have to shift back into centre given injuries.

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Two Cents 1 hour ago
The biggest handbrake on the Wallabies’ momentum ahead of their Bledisloe Cup bid

That’s why it's not the greatest rivalry in rugby despite being one of the longest running bilateral trophies that’s still competed for.

Any contest between Australia and New Zealand should have the same flavour as an England versus France, or Ireland/ Scotland/Wales versus England.



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JW 1 hour ago
'The Wallabies moved several steps closer to cracking the Springboks' DNA code'

Of course he does. Those had nothing to do with his position and all to do with the setup. Think it was also Aaron Cruden on the Breakdown that backed me up.

When you actually look at the play the are also all from midfield orientation, he is not receiving wipers kicks on the wing, like say Jorgensen does.



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JW 1 hour ago
Report: NZR summit document provides shock option to replace Super Rugby and NPC

typical

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Passit2me 1 hour ago
‘Australia are hitting a sweet spot of Test experience; it’s exciting to think where they could get to over the next 12 months’

Yes I agree with you, it was an under-strength Bok team; but on the whole, it was not a fatigued one which was the assertion I was replying to 🙂

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