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Renowned UK rugby scribe rips into Stormers 'excuse' making
Sunday Times rugby union correspondent Stephen Jones has lambasted the excuses being made by South African fans after the Stormers were thrashed by Exeter Chiefs in the Heineken Champions Cup.
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The loss for the Capetonians meant that South African involvement in Europe’s premier club competition had come to an end, while the Lions would follow suit in the Challenge Cup a few hours later on Saturday night.
Many fans have claimed that Stormers, who flew in from South Africa, were reportedly impacted by travel requirements that left them “flat” for the knock-out game.
In his tweet, Jones ridiculed the excuses that have been made for the Stormers’ poor performance, specifically ones around the impact of disrupted flights.
The URC side had a 24-hour journey to face Irish giants Leinster two weeks previously, flew back to South Africa for a game and then had disrupted travel back to Europe this week. Many South African fans say that the travel requirements were too much to bare for the South African heavyweights.
Jones wasn’t having any of it, tweeting that: “So if it is not referees then the excuse is flights? If Stormers had flown in individual suites on a luxurious space shuttle and landed at Exeter airport they would still have been no match for the Chiefs.”
So if it is not referees then the excuse is flights? If Stormers had flown in individual suites on a luxurious space shuttle and landed at Exeter airport they would still have been no match for the Chiefs
— Stephen Jones (@stephenjones9) April 8, 2023
When challenged by South African journalist Brendan Nel, Jones pointed out that: “Exeter played in six day turnaround after [an] extra time win.”
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Exeter played in six day turnaround after extra time win
— Stephen Jones (@stephenjones9) April 8, 2023
Jones also retweeted a post from well-known rugby thinker and administrator Mark Evans, who pointed out that: “Given time zones, as opposed to hours, which SA teams used to have to deal with in Super Rugby the level of ‘concern’ on rugby twitter from certain quarters is strange. When we travel to Perth we have a 14-hour journey and 5 hour time change. It’s part of the competition – deal with it.”
Given time zones,as opposed to hours,which SA teams used to have to deal with in Super Rugby the level of ‘concern’ on rugby twitter from certain quarters is strange.When we travel to Perth we have a 14 hour journey & 5 hour time change. It’s part of the competition-deal with it.
— Mark Evans (@evans_marke) April 9, 2023
Flights and distances aside, it is clear that South African teams certainly have a lot on their plate as they attempt to compete in the three major competitions in the URC, one of the two European cup competitions and the Currie Cup back in South Africa. How sustainable that is at the business end of the season is questionable.
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Nz should have won. I didn't watch the game, but the ref was at fault and the bounce of the ball and the Bokke used the Bomb squad and the Bokke slow the game down and the Bokke scrum. They should remove the scrum. The Bokke are to strong. Not fair. Nz should have won
2 Go to commentsThanks for a much more balanced piece Ned and not that BS that Bin Smuth just posted a short while ago. read this article and then Bin Smuth’s and tell me there isn’t a huge difference🙄
2 Go to commentsWere the Baby Boks part of this game or did the Baby Blacks play themselves?🤔 That man Bin Smuth once again does a little write-up on the game and it is like 95% about the Baby Blacks🤣 Glad he ends off with the Baby Blacks were actually in cruise control for most of the game and weren’t actually playing for the win WTF🤣🤣 Maybe he was expecting the Baby Blacks to run rampant….
1 Go to commentsOne does not expect anything more from Ben Smith who epitomises the worst of New Zealand media arrogance and an inability to balance what he has to say about any team that beats the All Blacks. His reference to context is pathetically thin. He does not comment that Frizell deserved a red card given his blatant manipulation of his body to ensure that he could drop his body weight onto Mbonambi’s lower leg. No mention of the ball lost forward before the All Black’s try (lost in-field of the 5 metre line and gathered beyond). The All Black commitment and effort was superb and there was little in it. Given the Springbok passage to the final and the loss of their hooker in the first three minutes, their resolve and capacity to win their fourth final out of eight attempts (not three out of ten) deserves the praise that has been forthcoming from media around the world, worth reading and listening to. Ben should join his “pundit” friends on TV - he would fit in well. This sort of article reduces any credibility Rugby Pass has ever had. Why persist with this sort of nonsense? The man does his country and a rugby blog a disservice.
187 Go to commentsEtzebeth went on to say: “I would never dream of saying that systems stay in place following a change in captain. To say that would be deeply, deeply, disrespectful of Siya. A while back an Irish person told me they would be fine without Sexton, so I’m just responding to that.”
3 Go to commentsClose games are what we want to see…. What a match it was…. I am sure that everyone was drained by the end of it. The reality of it all there has to be a winner and a loser. The fact that we still talking about it is almost 6 months to the day Rugby is the winner.. Asante sana… Here is to 2027 and what it will bring out.
187 Go to commentsIt’s going to be a good game. COYQ
1 Go to comments“Shock”, the guy was casually saying he was just slightly surprised. Nowadays if you say anything it gets taken completely out of context. Calm down everyone.
156 Go to commentsAll I can say after reading this bitter, sour, sad piece is… Thank you very much! This will be read in the change room just before kick off on 31 August…
187 Go to commentsLook, we know contradicting opinions and wacky comments bring readers and clicks, so well done to RP for allowing always-wrong-Ben to say something here. However RP needs to put a disclaimer next to his comments for their own credibility. NZ was and is incapable of acknowledging their opp beating them. They refused so with Ire and with Arg in 2022 and also the Boks in 2023 x 2. Nothing Ben says here holds water, NZ attacked backwards, except when Kolisi and Kolbe was off And cyncialy took out Bongi, we played without lineouts for 75mins. Kolisi and Kurt-Lee almost scored twice. Thats 3 vs 2 for Boks, but the Boks opportunities was legal. Boks should have been 16-3 up by half time. Tacticaly the Boks attacked better defended better scrummed better (without a hooker) kicked better and crossed the whitewash more times. Boks beat Fr Eng Nz to win in 23, comeon give some credit at least. Even Federer Verstappen NY Mets, Mamoa, was able to see a great human sport achievement by the Boks and their DNA Boks #RWC27 !🏉
187 Go to commentsForget the 85kg bit, that can become something else. However I do like the one off test on ANZAC day idea. SR plays Fri/ Sat, test players travel Sunday and the squads have the full week together before playing Saturday. Rest of SR has a week off. Either involve women's teams in same location or in the other country and rotate annually. Herbert is right in that change is needed.
3 Go to commentsI’ve read loads of nonsense before but this article takes the cake. Or perhaps someone changed the date for April Fool's Day.
3 Go to commentsReally Rugbypass? Ben Smith I think you forgot what the Springboks did to the All Blacks at Twickenham 8 weeks earlier? Springboks 35 All Blacks 7. There is alot of ifs and buts in your article. The All Blacks threw the sink at the Springboks and unfortunately they were not good enough regardless if they played with 14 men or not. It was the Springboks who forced the All Blacks to make mistakes! Sorry but not Sorry the Springboks is the best ever Rugby World Cup Nation in the world. 4 Cups baby!
187 Go to commentsYou just backed the Boks with that fantastic review! Well done! Have some cake!
187 Go to commentsBen Smith please write up something better than this. The Springboks would have won the world cup if you were 15 men on the field. They would have found a way, they always find a way to beat the All Blacks.
187 Go to commentsWow, there is a lot of “could have” and “ should have” in this waist of time dribble. I love the desperation in this story to search for a glimpse at a silver lining. Here are the facts, NZ was a badly coached and undisciplined shadow of their former glory. They never took the lead in a game they were never going to win.
187 Go to commentsGOTTA MAKE ‘THE GEORGE’ HAPPEN!!!! That’s a great idea! A trans Tasman midget battle on ANZAC Day. I don’t think the ABs Wallabies game should be a one off winner takes all though, just the first match with the other two later in the year with the RC. Reason being, no one will ever shut up about how aussies couldn’t win it when it was a 3 match series.
3 Go to comments@Ben smith. Thats knock out rugby. So honeslty who cares?
187 Go to commentsIt will interesting to know which Irish players said that…
2 Go to commentsNaaaww boys will be boys! Now run along ya wee scamp! Don’t let us catch you at again😏
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