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Renowned UK rugby scribe rips into Stormers 'excuse' making

By Ian Cameron
Stormers defenders getting skittled - PA

Sunday Times rugby union correspondent Stephen Jones has lambasted the excuses being made by South African fans after the Stormers were thrashed by Exeter Chiefs in the Heineken Champions Cup.

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The loss for the Capetonians meant that South African involvement in Europe’s premier club competition had come to an end, while the Lions would follow suit in the Challenge Cup a few hours later on Saturday night.

Many fans have claimed that Stormers, who flew in from South Africa, were reportedly impacted by travel requirements that left them “flat” for the knock-out game.

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In his tweet, Jones ridiculed the excuses that have been made for the Stormers’ poor performance, specifically ones around the impact of disrupted flights.

The URC side had a 24-hour journey to face Irish giants Leinster two weeks previously, flew back to South Africa for a game and then had disrupted travel back to Europe this week. Many South African fans say that the travel requirements were too much to bare for the South African heavyweights.

Jones wasn’t having any of it, tweeting that: “So if it is not referees then the excuse is flights? If Stormers had flown in individual suites on a luxurious space shuttle and landed at Exeter airport they would still have been no match for the Chiefs.”

When challenged by South African journalist Brendan Nel, Jones pointed out that: “Exeter played in six day turnaround after [an] extra time win.”

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Jones also retweeted a post from well-known rugby thinker and administrator Mark Evans, who pointed out that: “Given time zones, as opposed to hours, which SA teams used to have to deal with in Super Rugby the level of ‘concern’ on rugby twitter from certain quarters is strange. When we travel to Perth we have a 14-hour journey and 5 hour time change. It’s part of the competition – deal with it.”

Flights and distances aside, it is clear that South African teams certainly have a lot on their plate as they attempt to compete in the three major competitions in the URC, one of the two European cup competitions and the Currie Cup back in South Africa. How sustainable that is at the business end of the season is questionable.

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Rory 543 days ago

Renowned Is a strong term.

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Sean 544 days ago

Stephen Jones suffers from selective amnesia...I watched the Dobbo interview and he EXPRESSLY denied this and was quite profuse in his praise of how well Exeter plaid and I quote" we where simply blown away; Exeter started exceptionally well..
It's called cowboys don't cry and making them out to be cry babies is low; even for Jones.
Stephen..."Jou onder-rok hang uit"...as we say in Afrikaans.
👺 😄 😄

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Haunui 544 days ago

To be fair we heard the same excuses when the SA teams were in the Super rugby competition, 24 years and not one one win between them the Sharks, Stormers and the Lions. The Lions in 2017 didn't even have to play in NZ and got a home semifinal and final yet couldn't nail it. The biggest issue for SA teams was winning on the road and it appears to be the same playing in the NH

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Flankly 545 days ago

Anyone that takes the trouble to read Stephen Jones's opinions would be well advised to filter for his known biases. It is not whining to wonder how a team that so easily dealt with Harlequins the previous week was so ineffective against the Chiefs. The first half possession stats were remarkable. And the flat-footed defense was a surprise. The fast Exeter rucks and low ruck turnover rate were related to the loss of Deon Fourie, but is that the whole story? Personally I am not a subscriber to the travel explanations.

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Peter 545 days ago

South African rugby just whines everytime we lose. The best on Saturday was Nic Mallet blaming the back room producer of the live feed for the Sharks woes. 🙄🙄🙄. Really.

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isaac 546 days ago

Well well well...didnt south Africa know that playing in Europe would have it's own issues.....6 nations too willhave you in the same boat ...will sa complain there as well ??

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Anthony 546 days ago

Jones is still smarting from England losing twice to the Boks in a RWC final. To compound his woes England are now a sack of sh1t!

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JW 44 minutes ago
It's time to stop hating on Damian McKenzie, the best 10 in the Championship

NZ pulled a couple of very good kick chase games off last year. The second half in Auckland against the boks I remember. Most were around halfway (just on their side) I think, were I agree, this year for the boks for instance that is mostly on their own 40m line (or more towards their own line). Even between those two success', I'd say a 10 meter difference in the area they want to land them. They seemed to stop using the tactic last year after Jordan got carded.


I think they have always preferred to give their opponents a chance to run the ball back at them, yes. What is being see is that it's not successful these days (mostly because other teams are much more confident playing like NZ these days), and the kick chase is being critised as inaccurate. I'm not buying that, at least not yet. Beauden certainly didn't achieve anything better did he?


Yeah, interesting. I'm not really sure what number best reflects what I like, but on review I do see the number increasing for runs. The games they were in control, England series and the first SA test, they were 1:6 or under. The game at Eden Park in the pouring rain they showed the ability to control the game by foot at 1:4 (1:8, like you say, the previous week).


Really interesting. I'm not going to even begin to give a cause for that, they weren't behind in the Eden Park loss, but only had 4 22 entries. They may have lost structure towards the end but it could also have just been the change at 9 to Ratima that changed the kicking dynamic game to game.


I've heard a few grand but obviously that could be in anything. Yeah I think they'd give a quote based on what you use it for?

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