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Nigel Owens weighs in on match-defining moment as South Africa beat England

South Africa's openside flanker Pieter-Steph du Toit (R) celebrates as New Zealand referee Ben O'Keeffe (L) blows the final whistle as South Africa wins the France 2023 Rugby World Cup semi-final match between England and South Africa at the Stade de France in Saint-Denis, on the outskirts of Paris, on October 21, 2023. (Photo by EMMANUEL DUNAND / AFP) (Photo by EMMANUEL DUNAND/AFP via Getty Images)

Former referee Nigel Owens has labelled the decision to penalise England at the scrum in the final minutes of their World Cup semi-final against South Africa as “very, very, debatable,” saying it goes down to the referee’s interpretation on the day.

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Referee Ben O’Keeffe penalised replacement loosehead Ellis Genge for driving across against South Africa late in the semi-final, whereby Handre Pollard stepped up and converted the resulting penalty kick to give the world champions a 16-15 victory.

On Whistle Watch this week, the Welshman discussed that decision and explained why O’Keeffe came to it, all while highlighting the infringement Genge’s opposite man Vincent Koch was perceived to have committed.

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“Now, big talking point in that wonderful, exciting and intense game was the last penalty in the scrum,” Owens said.

“There are a lot of things to look at here. So do we have Ellis Genge going to his knee? Yes, we do. Now what tends to happen, if a player goes to his knee, the referee will deal with that there and then. The referee here decides that Ellis Genge gets back up on his feet, so he continues the scrum. What happens next is we have Ellis Genge going across, but also some of you have quite rightly highlighted that you have the tighthead of South Africa [Vincent Koch] also going across.

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“So what the referee has to deal with here, he has to deal with what he believes is the first offence. So for him, the first offence is the knee on the ground. The South Africa tighthead going across then, for him, is the second offence. So it’s one of those very, very debatable ones. The only thing I would say, if you are going to penalise a knee on the ground, then you need to penalise it when it happens. Not afterwards when something else has happened. It’s a little bit like the contact area. There’s no point you coming in and penalising the second or the third offence, and not penalising the first one. It will then be too late to go back to it.

“So, in this instance here, the referee penalised Ellis Genge for going across, because he feels the action on the knee has contributed to that. It’s a very, very tough call and to be honest it’s one that comes down to your interpretation as a referee on the day.”

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The scrum came off the back of 20 minutes of dominance at the set piece from South Africa, as their vaunted ‘Bomb Squad’ helped book their place in the World Cup final against the All Blacks on Saturday.

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Everyone knows Robertson is not supposed to be doing the coaching

Yeah it’s not actually that I’m against the idea this is not good enough, I just don’t know whos responsible for the appalling selections, whether the game plan will work, whether it hasn’t worked because Razor has had too much input or too little input, and whether were better or worse for the coachs not making it work against themselves.

I think that’s the more common outlook rather than people panicking mate, I think they just want something to happen and that needs an outlet. For instance, yes, we were still far too good for most in even weaker areas like the scrum, but it’s the delay in the coaches seemingly admitting that it’s been dissapoint. How can they not see DURING THE GAME it didn’t go right and say it? What are they scared of? Do they think the estimation of the All Blacks will go down in peoples minds? And of course thats not a problem if it weren’t for the fact they don’t do any better the next game! And then they finally seem to see and things get better. I’ve had endless discussions with Chicken about what’s happening at half time, and the lack of any real change. That problem is momentum is consistent with their being NO progress through the year. The team does not improve. The lineout is improved and is good. The scrum is weak and stays weak. The misfires and stays misfiring. When is the new structure following Lancasters Leinster going to click?



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