A British and Irish Lions' Coulda-Shoulda By-The-Phones Matchday 23
The time has come to second-guess Warren Gatland’s Lions’ picks and suggest who else could or should be on the plane to New Zealand. But we’re not going to do that. Here, in case of injury or ill-discipline only, James Harrington names a matchday 23 of players who should probably keep themselves match fit. Just in case (sorry, Jim Hamilton)
It’s hard to argue with Warren Gatland’s 41-man Lions’ squad for the rapidly approaching tour of New Zealand – unless you’re Scottish. Or Joe Launchbury.
But, because there’s plenty of time between now and the end of the northern hemisphere club seasons for selected to players get injured or banned (looking your way, Dylan Hartley) that’s just what we’re going to do.
Let’s not forget Alex Corbisiero, who had a great tour of Australia four years ago, was one of nine replacements called up after the original squad was named. And future Lions’ legend Martin Johnson first donned the red jersey as a replacement for Wade Dooley in 1993.
So, here it is: a By-Their-Phones Lions’ matchday 23 of players who should probably keep up the disciplined training regime and not leave their mobiles switched off while they take in a post-season leisurely browse the supermarket booze aisle.
Props
Cian Healy
Missed the 2013 tour with injury (Corbisiero replaced him, and remember how well that worked out for the England man), so will have been disappointed not to get the nod this time. Until Mako Vunipola’s return, and Joe Marler’s ferocious (and ultimately successful) bid to steal Rob Evans’s seat on the plane, the Leinsterman looked a plane-bound certainty. Surely top of the front row replacement list, with Evans or England’s Ellis Genge not far behind.
Samson Lee
The Welsh Furlong-Coles Mini-Me missed out on the first cut because he’s not young Quin Kyle Sinckler – who is going to the Land of the Long White Cloud thanks to his in-the-loose oomph off the bench. But, if either Coles or Furlong do come a cropper, Lee must be the one to get an early-morning call.
Hooker
Sean Cronin
Still no Dylan Hartley, despite All Blacks‘ coach Steve Hansen’s claim that he would have picked the England captain if he had been in charge of the Lions (fact check: he probably wouldn’t). Cronin missed the Six Nations with injury – and ran out of time to prove his fitness. As he doesn’t have the Kruis factor, that counted against him. Don’t be surprised if the Leinster man gets a call from the Big G if one of his trio come a cropper. Besides, he did this to Dan Biggar:
https://youtu.be/jim2WaIaWsw
Locks
Joe Launchbury
Yeah. It’s true. You didn’t dream it. He really wasn’t picked for the Lions. But, if he’s not on speed dial on Gatland’s Lions’ batphone, there is no hope for humanity.
Devin Toner
Gets the nod over either one of the Gray boys due entirely to what he did to the All Blacks’ lineout in Chicago last October. Yes, that’s one epic performance among many in one match – and, yes, he was dropped in the Six Nations – but on such small things are Lions’ cover hopefuls’ chances measured.
Back Row
Chris Robshaw
Robshaw may be forgiven for thinking Gatland has something against him, after he missed out on the Kiwi’s two Lions tours. This time at least, it’s more likely because he missed the Six Nations with injury. But if O’Mahony or Stander get a knock, the former England skipper will run and tackle and ruck and jackal all day long, and most of the night, too.
Ryan Wilson
A Scot! A veritable Scot! Albeit one born in Aldershot, but he plays for Scotland so it counts. Wilson’s just not as visible as yer Billy Vunipolas, Faletaus, or Heaslips (another who hasn’t made it – and who was edged out in favour of Wilson, here, to curry favour with Scottish fans) but he’ll do all the hard work really well. All the time.
Hamish Watson
A second Scot (from Manchester – but he was so proud of his Scottish heritage he had a Saltire in his bedroom as a boy. True story). Watson would have been on many an armchair pundits’ Lions’ shortlist following a fine Six Nations. And not just Scottish armchair pundits, either. Besides, he’s a 100% guaranteed proper openside, and they’re rocking horse-shit rare in rugby in the top half of the world. As the openside stock on the current squad shows.
Halfbacks
Danny Care
Being a replacement finisher for England during the Six Nations will not have helped Care’s Lions cause but there are few better snipers available to the Lions than the gobby Harlequins’ nine with the short-back-and-sides from hell.
Finn Russell
The England debacle apart, Russell was at times utterly mesmerising during the Six Nations, and must be cursing his ill-luck at being a genuine and bone fide Scot in a coin-toss between him and Welshman Dan Biggar for the fourth and final fly-half berth. Got to be a favourite for the call, especially as he can do a job in midfield, too.
Centres
Henry Slade
The Exeter man is one of those players who can be jaw-droppingly brilliant or frustratingly ordinary. Picked here, at inside centre, on the assumption that pulling on a hypothetical Lions shirt will bring out the amazing in him – but he can also fill a hole at 10 and 15. Handy, that.
Garry Ringrose
Another victim of a gut call from Gatland, who decided at the very end that he had to have the twinkle toes of Jonathan Joseph. The best advice for Ringrose is to keep his phone charged and close by. A future Lion for definite.
Back Three
Tim Visser
The Scot from the Netherlands is big enough to pack down in the back row and quick enough to give defenders the vapours. Think George North.
Jonny May
You want pace? He’s got pace. And then he’s got some more in reserve. And he’s difficult to tackle because he’s made entirely of knees. If voice of rugby Bill McLaren had seen Jonny May play, he’d be the ‘mad octopus’ of commentary legend, rather than Simon Geoghegan.
Joe Carbery
A real bolter this pick, given that Carbery is nominally a fly-half, but anyone who saw his performance out of position at 15 for Leinster in the Champions Cup quarter-final against Wasps will understand. And he allows extra options on the bench.
Replacements Finishers
Ellis Genge: Opted for Genge, as opposed to Evans, just so everyone can howl GENGE! if the Leicester man gets his hands on the ball. Also, he’s a pretty decent prop. Which is useful. Discipline, however, can be a failing, which in New Zealand is not so useful.
Zander Fagerson: The young Scot really took his chance during the Six Nations with WP Nel sidelined. While this Lions tour has come a year or so too soon for the young Glasgow Warrior, expect to see his name in lights in four years’ time. And, if major problems do develop at tighthead, he must be on Gatland’s list of cover suspects.
Dylan Hartley: Go on, then, just because Hansen said he should be there. Besides, a 94% win rate as England captain suggests he’s done okay at international level recently.
Jonny Gray: Gets the nod ahead of big brother Richie due to his tireless tackle-and-carry rate. Plenty of decent lineout jumpers from four to eight in the first Lions’ tranche, so there’s no need for Gray the Elder’s extra height straightaway.
Donnacha Ryan: Late, late Six Nations heroics give the no-nonsense Munster man a longshot. Usually plays lock, but has been known to pack down in the back row.
Greig Laidlaw: Was playing some fantastic rugby before injury scuppered his Six Nations – and one last Lions shot. Just returning to the Gloucester first team, and while he would probably not trouble the test side even as a replacement, he’d be a great late addition to the squad. And he can kick it.
Keith Earls: A wing who’s almost equally effective at outside centre. Priceless.
Rob Kearney: Barrett and Cruden love to test the back three with high bombs. Kearney eats high bombs for breakfast.
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Results probably skewed by the fact that a few clubs have foreign fly halves in their 30s, but most teams have young English scrum halves. Results also likely to be skewed by the fact that many teams rely on centres and fullbacks to provide depth at 10, whereas they will need to stock a large number of specialist backup 9s.
1 Go to commentsI really get the sense that when all is said and done, the path of least resistance will end up being a merger of Wasps & Worcester that essentially kills the Worcester Warriors brand and sees Wasps permanently playing at Sixways. I’m not saying that’s what should happen or what I want to happen. I just think it’s the easiest rout to take and therefore, will be what happens. Wasps will definitely return to play first, and I suppose it all depends on if they can find support at Sixways. If people turn up and support Wasps in that community, at that ground, I bet they drop the Sevenoaks plan and just remain at Sixways. Under the radar but not totally unrelated, it looks as though London Irish are going to be brought back from the dead by a German consortium and look set to return, likely to the remade Championship. It’s set to have 12 clubs next season with 14 in 2025/26, what do you want to bet those extra 2 are Wasps and London Irish?
1 Go to commentsThe shoulder is a “joint” with multiple bones. You don’t “fracture” a shoulder, you fracture any one or more of the bones that make up a shoulder.
2 Go to commentsOh dear, bones too suspect to continue?
2 Go to commentsBold headline considering the Canes and Blues are 1 and 2 and the Brumbies were soundly beaten by the Chiefs and Blues. Biggest surprise is Rebels 4 Crusaders 12 - no one saw that coming. If Aus are improving that’s great 👍
1 Go to commentsAnna, You are right, we need to have patience whilst the others catch up to England and France. Also it is the PWR that has been the game changer for England. the RFU put money into that initially at the expense of the Red Roses. I was sceptical at first but it has paid off in spades.
1 Go to commentsI think Matt Proctor became a 1 test AB in the same fixture. Cameron is quality and has been great this season, can’t believe’s he only 27. Realistically how would he not be selected for ABs squad this year. Only Dmac is ahead of him as a specialist 10. With Jordan out, it will come down to where and when Beauden Barrett slots back in, and where they want to play Ruben Love. Cameron seems an absolute lock in for the wider squad though. Added benefit of TJ-Cameron-Jordie combination at 9, 10, 11 too.
1 Go to commentsFarcical, to what end would someone want to pay to keep this thing going.
1 Go to commentsHavili, our best 12 by a mile, will be in the squad, if he stays fit. JB is the most overrated AB in the last 50 years.
61 Go to commentsWe had during the week twilight footy, twilight cricket, tw golf plus there was the athletics club. Then the weekend was rugby 15s plus the net ball, really busy club scene back then but so much has changed and rugby has suffered. And it was all about changing lifestyles.
6 Go to commentsIn the 70s and 80s my club ran 5 Senior sides plus a Vets. Now it is 2 sides with an occasional 3rd team. Players have difficulty getting to training now, not sure why and the commitment is not there. It seems to me more a problem of people applying themselves and not expecting to turn up and play whenever they want to.
6 Go to commentsROG’s contract is until 2027. The conversation about a successor to Galthie after RWC 2027 may be starting now. We can infer that Galthie’s reign stops then. He is throwing the Irish Coaching Job angle in because he is Irish. The next Irish coach MUST be Leo Cullen. As well as being the best coach available, coaching the vast majority of Irish Internationals week in week out, he has shown incredible skill at recruiting the best coaching staff for the job in hand. That was a failing in France. Cullen is a shrewd guy and if there is a need for foreign coaches underneath him he won’t hesitate. Rightly so. Ireland does need to start to bring Irish coaches through. Not just at the professional level but we need to train coaches to man new pathways for developing kids from schools/clubs up through the divisions.
8 Go to commentsNo Islam says it must rule where it stands Thus it is to be deleted from this planet Earth
18 Go to commentsThis team probably does not beat the ABs sadly Not sure if BPA will be available given his signing for Force but has to enter consideration. Very strong possibility of getting schooled by the AB props. Advantage AB. Rodda/Skelton would be a tasty locking combination - would love to see how they get on. Advantage Wallabies. Backrow a risk of getting out hustled and outmuscled by ABs. Will be interesting to see if the Blues feast on the Reds this weekend the way they did the Brumbies we are in big trouble at the breakdown. Great energy, running and defence but goalkicking/general kicking/passing quality in the halves bothers me enormously. SA may have won the World Cup for a lot of the tournament without a recognised goalkicker but Pollard in the final made a difference IMO. Injuries and retirements leave AB stocks a bit lighter but still stronger. 12 and 13 ABs shade it (Barret > Paisami, Ione = Ikitau, arguably) Interesting clash of styles on the wings - Corey Toole running around Caleb Clark and Caleb running over the top of Toole. Reece vs Koro probably the reverse. Pretty even IMO. 15s Kelleway = Love See advantage to ABs man for man, but we are not obviously getting slaughtered anywhere which makes a nice change. Think talent wise we are pretty even and if our cohesion and teamwork is better than the ABs then its just about doable.
11 Go to commentsCompletely agree. More friday night games would be a hit. RFU to make sure every club has a floodlit pitch. Club opens again Saturday to welcome touch / tag. Minis and youths on Sunday
6 Go to comments1.97m and 105Kg? Proportionately, probably skinnier than me at 1.82 and 82kilos. He won’t survive against the big guys at that weight.
56 Go to commentsThe value he brought to the crusaders as an assistant was equal to what he got out of being there. He reflected not only on the team culture but also the credit he attributed to the rugby community. Such experience shouldn’t be overlooked.
8 Go to commentsGood luck Aussie
11 Go to commentssmith at 9 / mounga 10 / laumape 12 / fainganuku 14
61 Go to commentsBar the injuries, it’s pretty much their top team …
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