'Kyle's unlucky... Billy, we look at No8s being explosive': Why England duo Sinckler and Vunipola didn't make the Lions cut
Lions coach Warren Gatland has briefly explained why he left 2017 Test series replacement Kyle Sinckler out of the 2021 squad to tour South Africa in July. The England tighthead’s relationship with the ex-Wales coach hasn’t been the warmest, Gatland describing the forward as an emotional timebomb in the build-up to a 2019 Guinness Six Nations match in Cardiff.
“Emotionally he can be a bit of a timebomb,” said Gatland at the time. “We will not be going out to antagonise him but the big challenge for him is to keep his emotions under control.”
Gatland apologised later that year for those remarks but keeping emotions under control was something Sinckler was unable to do as recently as January when he was cited following Bristol’s Gallagher Premiership win at Exeter for swearing at a referee, a reprimand that resulted in the suspension that caused him to miss England’s opening round Six Nations defeat to Scotland.
There was no mention of the Sinckler temperament when Gatland outlined the thinking why the Lions have instead chosen Ireland duo Tadhg Furlong and Andrew Porter along with Scotland’s Zander Fagerson who missed one Six Nations game following a red card in the February loss to Wales.
“There is a number of players that have missed out,” said Gatland after unveiling a 37-man pick, one more than the 36 that had been anticipated. “I don’t really want to focus on too many players who have missed out. If you pick one player in the squad over another then you are often having the same conversation.
Gatland had his homework done in coming up with this explanation #LionsRugby #Lions2021 #Lionshttps://t.co/ugI0GhPDJG
— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) May 6, 2021
“It was a tough call. Tadhg Furlong has had an outstanding Six Nations, Zander Fagerson has really come on from a Scottish perspective. From a penalty perspective, Scotland probably came out on top of all the nations in the Six Nations at scrum time and he scrummaged pretty well. And someone like Andrew Porter gives us that flexibility in terms of being able to cover both sides. We feel like that we have got that covered. Kyle is unlucky but the other guys we feel can do a good job for us.”
The selected Fagerson was sent off after he connected with Wyn Jones – another Lions front row pick – at a Murrayfield ruck and the alleged post-collision behaviour of the Welsh loosehead was savagely criticised by Fagerson’s brother Matt, the Scottish No8, in a Rugby World magazine interview some weeks later.
Those words should make for an interesting dynamic when the rival props assemble pre-tour in Jersey. “If Wyn Jones doesn’t roll around on the floor… that was pathetic. He appeals to the ref, got nothing and then stayed on the floor,” said back-rower Fagerson about an incident that could have damaged his brother’s Lions selection prospects.
Elsewhere in the pack, Billy Vunipola was the other headline England casualty as Gatland opted to include Sam Simmonds, the Exeter No8 who hasn’t been capped at Test level by Eddie Jones since March 2018. Vunipola was the only one of Saracens’ half-dozen England players not to make the Lions cut.
Credit in the bank worked in favour of Mako Vunipola, Jamie George, Maro Itoje, Owen Farrell and Elliot Daly but that same allowance was not given for Billy Vunipola. “Some of those players haven’t had what they would consider their best Six Nations,” admitted Gatland about players from a club who have been playing in the Championship in recent weeks following Premiership relegation.
“It doesn’t mean that they have become bad players overnight because of what they achieved in the last couple of years with England or in the past with Saracens. I have got to be conscious of that, conscious that we can bring some of those players in and create an environment where they are going thrive and be successful.
“With the loose forwards, with Sam, Toby (Faletau), we look at No8s being explosive in terms of the way they carry with footwork and with Billy at the moment, he is probably not quite there. I didn’t see from him in the Six Nations the same sort of impact that he has had in the past in terms of how important he has been for England when they have been successful, getting across the gain line, busting tackles. Unfortunately, that is the reason why we haven’t picked him in that position.”
"If you tuck your ball under your arm and run straight they [South Africa] love that sort of thing, so I was conscious of having balance in our back row"#LionsRugby #Lions2021 #Lions
https://t.co/oJCdioSOHe— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) May 6, 2021
Comments on RugbyPass
Think it was a great defensive performance by Northampton. They didn't have stage fright in the first half, the Nienaber defense smothered them. They limited Leinster to 15-3 in the first half. It could have been over by then. A great try from Leinster in the start of the second half looked to have sealed it. But Byrne missed another conversion. Northampton started trying little kicks behind the Leinster wingers. Leinster messed one and Smith brilliantly made the conversion. Leinster decided to tighten the game after Byrne missed a straight forward penalty. A few errors got NH into the 22 and they scored and converted with a few minutes left. Another brilliant steal from Lawes saw NH have a final attack which was turned over by Conan. A classic semi final. World record attendance of 82,300. Leinsters 3 week preparation warranted for this one.
1 Go to commentsJust came back from the game and the atmosphere was amazing. Players stayed afterwards for more than a hour to sign stuff and take photos with fans. Great day out.
5 Go to commentsA great game. The Sharks without Etsebeth are a shadow of the team compared to when he plays. The limitations of Some of the expensive Sharks players are being exposed. Credit to Clermont for some exhilaration play at times.
5 Go to comments100% Mr Owens. But who would want to be a referee.? It must be the most difficult job on earth.
1 Go to commentsStarts to be overdone and oversold this systematic SA narrative…which nevertheless has the merit in this case to recognise blatant refereeing mistakes in their favor
5 Go to commentsNice article. Shades of Steinbeck. They can win the final if they take the game seriously; but only if they take it seriously.
5 Go to commentsWhat a sad way to end a glittering career. Somebody should tell him to delete his social media accounts and face the consequences of what he's done. Then he should slip away quietly into obscurity. This isn't likely to happen, something tells me he'll be back in The Sun / Daily Mail sooner rather than later.
3 Go to commentsguys its fine! he understands why he did what he did and has taken accountability for it; why should he have to be accountable to a court? after all he did was abuse people in person - its not as if he was engaging in _online_ abuse!
3 Go to commentsChiefs flanker Kaylum Boshier yellow-carded for collapsing the scrum as it rolled towards the line. It was a maul….
1 Go to commentsyou know, i’m a leinster fan so I want Northampton to lose and it is gonna be tuff with Cortney lawes, Alex michell and the other guys🏉 lets go leinster🏉
1 Go to commentsWelcome to the Pro ranks. Those hard teams of old do hit the sole better though. its a dog fight at the top.
6 Go to commentsCan someone fill me in please, I've read a number of Ben Smith articles now and it seems he's got something again South Africa? Surely, this game was over and done with 7 months ago. Can't we have something a bit more interesting and relevant, or is this the calibre of journalist on this site?
235 Go to commentsNot sure what the Welsh are moaning about. They’ve had far more players off England, than England have had off Wales. Guys like Josh Hathaway and Kane James will play for Wales in the end. And they’ll be fsr better players for having played in the Gallagher Premiership, than they ever would have been had they stayed mired in the shambles that is Welsh rugby.
4 Go to commentsThis is all being blown totally out of proportion. First of all, since half the Irish team isn’t Irish - it’s very likely that none of the Irish players said that at all and, thus, we’re not being arrogant. Second, since half the Irish team is Kiwi - it’s very likely the Kiwi players were predicting a NZ SA World Cup final. Which they got spot on. Good on them!
163 Go to commentsAha. An Irishman with logic! Follow the flow: - Ireland peaks with a >80% win record between 2020 and 2023. And then… - crashes out of another QF at the WC; - Beat a poor French Team; - Beat 6N wooden spoonists Italy; - Play shite against eventual wooden spoonists Wales; - Lose against the most boring, “the worst English team ever” , a team widely regarded as unable to attack; - scrape through against Scotland. This article, No - Trimble, is on the money! Except for one glaring statement: _The Springboks have a few aces in the hole in this debate being the reigning world champions and official world number ones_ There is no debate, boys and girls. There it is. In black and white. “Reigning World Champions and OFFICIAL world number ones”. Come July, the overrated Andy Farrell and this overhyped team are going to enter into a world of hurt.
90 Go to commentsI’d like to know what homoerotic events Daniel enjoyed at 8th man. I clearly missed out!
20 Go to commentsThis article is missing some detail, like some actual context or info about what led to him abusing the ref.
2 Go to comments*They used to say that football is a gentleman sport watched by hooligans and rugby is a hooligan sport watched by gentlemen. How times have changed.*
3 Go to commentsexcept ot wasnt late wasnt late at all so dont know why you all saying its late he commits early and its your fault fir not paying attention
30 Go to commentsNot sure the Bulls need another average utility back in their ranks. Chamberlain has been ok for the Sharks but is by no means an X-Factor player. Bulls bought several utility backs which they barely use. A typical example would be Henry Immelman who plays mostly Fullback. The Bulls however have rarely played him this year and he has played wing or centre. Bulls want to build depth but seems like they have too many surplus players
1 Go to comments