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Justin Marshall reacts to Tana Umaga's possible All Blacks role

Moana Pasifika Head Coach Fa’alogo Tana Umaga during the round 15 Super Rugby Pacific match between Chiefs and Moana Pasifika at FMG Stadium, on May 24, 2025, in Hamilton, New Zealand. (Photo by Dave Rowland/Getty Images)

Former All Black halfback Justin Marshall has weighed in on the possible role with the All Blacks for his former teammate, and current Moana Pasifika head coach, Tana Umaga.

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Umaga responded to reports on Sunday evening at Eden Park, after rumours circulated about a possible role as one of Dave Rennie’s assistant coaches.

The 52-year-old Moana Pasifika head coach told The Breakdown on Sunday evening that he has indeed been approached by New Zealand Rugby and Rennie, but those conversations are still ongoing.

“I’ve been approached,” he said on The Breakdown.

“I’ve had a couple of chats to Dave Rennie in the last couple of days. We’re just going through that process at the moment and we’ll see where that goes.

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“I’ve got a job to do here at the moment. That’s great, to have that opportunity. Whether it comes to anything, that’s work that’s got to be done.”

Reacting to Umaga’s quotes, former All Black teammate Marshall said that the most important part of these conversations is where he exactly fits in the puzzle.

“Like he said, there’s quite a few things to work through, and there’s things that you need to work through to make sure that the fits right. Conversations are conversations, but there’s got to be an agreement about where do I sit in the picture here?

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“What do I take control of? I am actually a head coach here, so you’ve got to work all those things out, and they’ve got to do their due diligence, man, because it’s been off recently within the coaching structure and we’ve seen assistants leaving, so they’ve got to get this right.

“Fantastic, you have a guy like that walking into the changing shed who’ been in there and been All Black captain before. When he finds his role, that’s going to bring something special to it because having a guy like that walking in there and inspiring the players.”

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The 81-Test former All Black halfback wants New Zealand Rugby to make sure that the assistant coaches will work in the environment, especially with what played out under the last regime.

“What we’re trying to say is you can’t just put somebody in there because they’ve got the respect and they’ve done some coaching like Tana. You’ve got to make sure that the fit works and that when he is in that environment, that one of the things that people have said a lot about is too many people, too many voices.

“Too many chiefs and not enough Indians. So you put too much personnel in there, you’re going straight back to having all those voices that the players are getting frustrated with.”

Former All Black centurion Mils Muliaina agrees with Marshall, saying that there’s no doubt he will have the respect of the players; it’s just about what role he will play in the coaching staff.

“And I think it’s working out what his actual role is. No question about whether he walks into the change room, the respect he’s going to have. He was very instrumental when he became captain, in terms of, you hear what they’ve really said, the culture, that’s the one thing he wants to really dig deep into.

“We know he’s been a defensive coach, he’s also been a head coach. He’s also come back from having a break and then going back to the Blues, just with consultancy, right? And so they’ll be trying to establish what’s his actual role is and what will he do? Because there’s other guys as well that will come in behind Dave Rennie as well.”

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Sport Nation’s Alex Chapman and 1News’ Scotty Stevenson first reported that Umaga was in talks with the new All Blacks head coach, but nothing was confirmed by either party about what role, or if these talks had taken place.

Last week, Umaga called the rumours “speculation”.

“I don’t really deal in speculation. I’m really honoured and privileged to be involved in the conversation. But it’s just that. I suppose it was my turn this week. I saw there’s a lot of names involved in who Rens is looking for,” Umaga told reporters in Auckland.

“My family are the ones that are letting me know what’s happening, and I’m getting a lot of these texts, so I had to turn my phone off.”

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Selig 26 days ago

I wouldn’t pick him. He has a poor record with Moana Pacific. Last season, Ardie was the sole reason for MP having a better time of it. So far this season, he’s not up to it. PS: Tana is a lovely guy, best wishes to him.

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SC 27 days ago

Umaga will most likely be appointed defence coach.


The problem is the teams he has coached have always been better at attack than defence.


MP, Blues, Counties, and Toloun all had mediocre to poor defences under him.


Being a feared defender at test level does not make one a good defensive strategist.

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Nickers 28 days ago

Anyone who would have been good for an assistant job either turned down Razor or counted themselves out of the running during the search for the head coach role.


I really hope some of the undisclosed conversations are with genuine experienced world class coaches but it’s feeling less likely.


The options available now are 1) moneyball, 2) vibes, or 3) strongest on paper who is also available.


Moneyball option would be someone somewhere who is under the radar due to coaching a Tier 2 team, club, or coaching a different sport. I would put someone like Kendrick Lynn in this bucket (before he went to Argentina), and Jason Ryan pre ABs appointment. Could be Jonno Gibbes or Clark Laidlaw from the NZ scene at the moment.


Vibes would be someone with “aura” but little to no evidence of being a great tactician, which is what these roles are traditionally. This would be Martin Johnson being appointed England coach for the 2015 World Cup, or McCullum with England cricket.


Strongest available on paper and also available - this is the B Team of international coaching. This is the Mooar/Plumtree appointment. Guys who have been tried and tested and not achieved great things. Ironically would have included Leon MacDonald and Jason Holland in this group pre ABs appointment, and still would. This would likely be guys Rennie has worked with before in Japan or whatever, who have not gone onto coach a top club anywhere or been picked up by an international team.


Tana, as much as I love him, feels like somewhere between 2 and 3. MP have sporadically done some good stuff, and their player turnover is second to none which does not make that job easy. In some ways it feels like coaching them is philanthropy.

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Blackmania 28 days ago

Umaga has an undeniable aura, but I remain skeptical about this choice if it were to be confirmed. You can’t really say he’s had major results as a coach in recent years.

We’ll have to wait and see what his role would be.

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jclaytonf 28 days ago

While he was a great player, Umaga has been, at best, mediocre as a coach. I do not think this is a good path to follow.

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SB 28 days ago

He doesn’t deal in speculation.

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John Breslin 28 days ago

All you had to do was say sorry, chief


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