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'It wasn't a derogatory comment at all' - Defence coach clarifies Ian Foster remarks

By Ian Cameron
New Zealand's head coach Ian Foster (C) shakes hands with Ireland's fly-half Jonathan Sexton (L) after the France 2023 Rugby World Cup quarter-final match between Ireland and New Zealand at the Stade de France in Saint-Denis, on the outskirts of Paris, on October 14, 2023. (Photo by FRANCK FIFE / AFP) (Photo by FRANCK FIFE/AFP via Getty Images)

New Zealand defence coach Scott McLeod has defended Ian Foster’s comments about Ireland’s attack that he says were taken out of context.

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Foster raised eyebrows with a remark in the aftermath of the All Blacks‘ 28-24 Rugby World Cup quarter-final win over Ireland in which he referred to Ireland’s attack as ‘cut and paste’.

Foster said in relation to Ireland’s late 37-phase attack – as they sought to snatch victory from the men in black- that they “were doing a cut-and-paste attack … the same sort of things. We were really patient with how we defended it.”

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McLeod, who has been working to improve New Zealand defensive systems, clarified that the comment was not meant as a dig at Ireland.

“It wasn’t a derogatory comment at all. Cut-and-paste meant that they just kept running the same shape, the attack shape. They just kept trying to find a weakness in us, over and over and over again.

“They are one of the best attacking sides in the world. They make you make constant decisions and they test your execution. They just kept trying to run the same stuff against us and what I am saying is that I’m really proud that no one in our line really tried to win that on their own or win that moment on their own. They did it collectively, they stayed connected and they did what we trained and eventually we got the opportunity to turn the ball over.”

McLeod explained how the All Blacks in fact needed to go back to the drawing board on defence after realising that their defensive systems were falling behind that of European sides.

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“After the series loss at home last year [against Ireland] which really hurt, we had to have a really good look at some fundamentals in the defensive game for the All Blacks and a big part of that was in Super Rugby in New Zealand they tend to defend the man. So, they line up on a man and they defend the man. Whereas that doesn’t work against Ireland, it doesn’t work against Italy, it doesn’t work against France and we knew we had those teams more than likely in this World Cup.

“So, we had to develop our ability to be able to defend the ball. Wherever the ball is we had to put people in front of that.

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“That was the most pleasing aspect, that we’ve built the players’ skillset from last year. That loss against Ireland and then the end of year tour and we’ve learned some really harsh lessons. Last night the majority of the time we got that right and we had to get that right against Ireland and the way they attack.

“We had to make 276 tackles last night and 100 of those were in the last quarter, and particularly in that last 37 phases. You know, the most we’ve had to make in this tournament, or attempt to make was 137 against Italy.

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“So, there’s a huge amount of care and a huge amount of ticker I guess, Kiwi ticker in you like, that we wanted to get the job done. I am really proud of our execution in that zone but also our decision-making. The ball wasn’t there to take a number of times and we had to wait for the moment and then execute really well. You know, Sam Whitelock put himself in the position twice to do that and so did Ardie [Savea] and we finally got it.

“We finally got it after that 37th phase and the boys are really happy with that.”

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