'If I had my time again, I would've changed a lot': How falling out of favour with Robbie Deans changed Matt Giteau's career
You don’t play over 300 games of professional rugby without having a few personality clashes along the way.
That was certainly the case for Wallabies centurion Matt Giteau, who has spent time in Canberra, Perth, Toulon and now Tokyo, accumulating trophies and scoring points for teams throughout the world.
New Brumbies signing Noah Lolesio says the off-the-field challenges have been the toughest part of Super Rugby this season:
For a man so integral to Australia’s World Cup plans in 2015 that the nation had to literally change its national-side selection rules, it’s almost hard to believe that there was a point in time when the talented playmaker wasn’t wanted at the Wallabies.
But that became the case not too long after Robbie Deans took over the head coaching role in 2008.
While Deans, fresh from a third successive victory as head coach of the Crusaders, nominated Giteau as his first-choice No. 10 when he first joined Australia’s cause, the experienced playmaker slowly fell out of favour with the Kiwi coach.
Giteau’s downfall coincided with his return to Canberra after a three-year playing stint with the Western Force.
“When I came back to the Brumbies after the Force was a pretty tough period, just because the club had changed a fair bit,” Giteau told RugbyPass from the confines of his isolation.
“A lot of senior players had left. That was also the time that I started to go on the outer with the Wallabies as well, with Robbie Deans.”
“That was probably the toughest period for me.”
Giteau had earned his first caps on tour with the Wallabies in 2002 under now-England coach Eddie Jones.
For the next few years, Giteau played alongside a number of already-established Wallabies legends – men like Sterling Mortlock, George Gregan and Stephen Larkham.
It was these experienced, elder states-men that set the standards in the squad while the newbies took a backseat and earned their stripes.
John Connolly took over from Jones in 2006 but lasted just two years in the job before he was replaced by Deans.
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Connolly’s departure at the end of the 2007 World Cup – after the Wallabies were bundled out by England in the quarter-finals – also coincided with a number of the squad’s senior members calling time on their international careers, including Gregan and Larkham.
Their departures meant that Giteau, who had now accumulated over 40 caps for Australia, was now one of the nation’s more experienced operators.
That’s when the troubles first started.
“My view was the older brother always teaches the younger brother how to do things,” said Giteau. “Through experience, I always thought it was that way.
“It was hard for me because we’d often been told how to do things by the senior players – they led the culture.
“When Robbie came in, we had a lot of young guys and he wanted everyone on the same level, everyone to drive the standards, I suppose. But a lot of guys had come in and not really learnt anything yet.”
Deans named eight new players in his first squad, with a further four players capped throughout the year. Five further players had also played their first Test matches the year prior.
“A lot of young guys were coming in at the time and I don’t think I did enough to try and make those guys feel welcome,” Giteau said.
In 2008, Deans’ first year in charge, Giteau was handed the reins in the 10 jersey.
It was a significant change, given that he had spent the better part of his international career at inside centre, wedged between Larkham and Mortlock.
Still, it wasn’t exactly a massive ask – Giteau had already spent plenty of time in the pivot role at all levels of the game.
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In fact, it was ironically when he was eventually moved back out to inside centre, two years later, that things started to go downhill for the recently reconverted Brumby.
While Giteau had once been an easy pick in the team, a run of underwhelming results coupled with a drop in form for Giteau himself saw his Test position come into question
From starting in the key playmaker role to being shifted out to 12 to suddenly finding himself outside the match-day squad completely, it wasn’t a good time for the Canberra-man.
Giteau is the first to acknowledge he didn’t cope well with the change.
“I think I handled it poorly,” he said. “I’d never been dropped – even if I was out of form, I was always picked in the Wallabies team.”
“When I was dropped, I didn’t handle it well at all – very immaturely.
“I still went out and trained and did my stuff but when around the group, thinking back, I reckon I was probably pretty toxic – not that I said anything, just in the way I moved and acted.”
Then came the coup de grâce, Giteau was dropped from the Wallabies squad at the worst possible time – immediately before the 2011 World Cup.
“That was probably the toughest period in my rugby career,” said Giteau.
Quade Cooper, who had already usurped Giteau in the 10 jersey, started every one of Australia’s games at the World Cup in the flyhalf role. Squad members Kurtley Beale, James O’Connor and Berrick Barnes were all also capable of covering No. 10 if necessary.
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Meanwhile, Deans opted for Pat McCabe, Anthony Fainga’a, Adam Ashley-Cooper and Barnes as the midfield options – leaving no space for Giteau, who had already signed a contract with Toulon, thus (at that point in time), shutting down any chances of a future recall to the national side.
While most players who missed out on selection would have to twiddle their thumbs until the new year, Giteau was able to resume playing with a new goal fairly quickly – but even that came with its own trials.
“When I first got to France, I’d been dropped and not picked in the World Cup squad so I felt like I had to prove myself and show that I was still good enough to play at that level with those guys,” Giteau said.
“That was tough as well.”
While Giteau struggled with Deans’ decision-making at the time, it’s something that he’s come to terms with in the almost-decade since.
“Certainly, there was no ambiguity at the time about our points of view,” Giteau said. “I think we both kind of knew where each other stood.
“But since then, I’ve seen him in Japan, shook hands after games and had a little chat. It’s all fine, I think. So much has happened since then. As a person, as a player, I’ve developed and moved on.
“That was a moment of growth, I suppose, because you learn from your mistakes. In that aspect, I don’t regret it. But I certainly do regret what happened.
“If I had my time again, I would’ve changed a lot of the things that I did.”
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Hats off to Fabian for a very impressive journey to date. Is it as ‘uniquely unlikely’ as Rugby Pass suggests, given Anton Segner’s journey at the Blues?
1 Go to commentsSad that this was not confirmed. When administrators talk about expanding the game they evidently don’t include pathways to the top tier of rugby for teams outside of the old boys club. Rugby deserves better, and certainly Georgia does.
1 Go to commentsLions might take him on if they move on Van Rooyen but I doubt he will want to go back, might consider it a step backwards for himself. Sharks would take him on but if Plumtree goes on to win the challenge cup they will keep him on. Also sharks showing some promising signs recently. Stormers and Bulls are stable and Springboks are already filled up. Quality coach though, interesting to see where he ends up
1 Go to commentsAnd the person responsible for creating a culture of accountability is?
2 Go to commentsMore useless words from Ben Smith -Please get another team to write about. SA really dont need your input, it suck anyway.
264 Go to commentsThis disgraceful episode must result in management and coach team sackings. A new manager with worse results than previous and the coaching staff need to coached. Awful massacre led by donkeys.
1 Go to commentsInteresting article with one glaring mistake. This sentence: “And between the top four nations right now, Ireland, France, South Africa, and New Zealand…” should read: And between the top four nations right now, South Africa, Ireland, New Zealand and France…”. Get it right wistful thinkers, its not that hard.
23 Go to commentsHow did Penny get the gig anyway?
2 Go to commentsNice write up Nick and I would have agreed a week ago. However as you would know Cale & co got absolutely monstered by the Blues back row of Sotutu, Ioane and Papaliti and not all of these 3 are guaranteed a start in the Black jumper. He may need to put some kgs before stepping up, Spring tour? After the week end Joe will be a bit more restless. Will need to pick a mobile tough pack for Wales and hope England does the right thing and bashes the ABs. I like your last paragraph but I would bring Swinton, Hannigan into the 6 role and Bobby V to 8
21 Go to commentsThe Crusaders can still get in to the Play Off’s. The imminent return of outstanding captain Scott Barrett and his All Black team mate Codie Taylor will be a big boost.There are others like Tamaiti Williams too. Two home games coming up. Fellow Crusader fans get there and support these guys. I will be.
1 Go to commentsCant get more Wellington than Proctor.
2 Go to commentsWhy not let the media decide. Like how they choose the head coach. Like most of us we entrust the rugby system to choose. A rugby team includes the coaches. It's collective.
13 Go to commentsHi NIck, I have been very impressed with him and he seems a smart player who can see opportunities which Bobby V _(who must be an international 6_) doesn’t see or have the speed to take advantage of. If he continues to improve and puts on 5kgs then he could be a great 8. He is a bit taller than Keiran Reid at 1.93m and 111 kgs, so his skill set fits his body size and who knows where it will lead. I hope the spate of Achilles tendon issues have been dealt with by the S&C people. It’s been a very long time since Mark Loane and Kefu stood out at 8. The question is will we be able to hold onto him, if he does make it he will be pretty hot property. I disagree with the idea of letting them go to the Northern Hemisphere and then bring them back.
21 Go to commentsBilly Fulton 🤣🤣🤣🤣 garrrmon not even close
13 Go to commentsDoes the AI take into account refs? hahaha Seriously why not have two on field refs to avoid bias?
23 Go to commentsVern challenging this Blues side might be the edge they need to fulfill their potential. Convincing results from strong D and strong carries are hard to argue against.
1 Go to commentsLove seems to add a strong back field defense with speed to close the gap and tackle to his ability to attack, kick and pass (an accurate long pass). This sets him an edge over some of the other names - JRK in particular. Has to be said that Jordan and Stevenson have also been exposed defensively while Love has yet to face test match intensity. Spoilt for choice.
1 Go to commentsHe’s strung together a few strong seasons, I’d like to see him in the ABs and build some depth along with Reiko and ALB. Levi Aumua hasn’t taken the step we hoped to see but time yet.
2 Go to commentsWhere has our good friend Pecos gone!? Similar place to the Crusaders D, the abyss.
4 Go to commentsNice piece Nick. I haven’t seen much of the brumbies this year so will keep my powder dry on charlie, but clearly has the speed and footwork to be damaging in space. Similar to Samu, I’d worry about the size of our pack if the likes of Mcreight and Cale were in the b/row together. Maybe Cale could play a similar finisher role like Samu did for Rennie’s wallabies. Has Cale leapfrogged wilson in your eyes? He obviously has the lineout, but harry probably better (although not great) in the physical stuff and also has great hands in the loose. You’d have to say mcreight and valetini are shoe-ins at 7/8, so the question becomes who matches best with them at 6 and on the bench. I don’t know if he has a high enough ceiling, but id love to see wright given a shot based on how much bad luck he has had with injuries. He may also fit that no-nonsense graft/work rate irish approach…? If schmidt wants size and a 4/6 tweener then I’d probably pick Uru. On the bench I’d have no idea, Wilson if you want to give valetini a rest, and maybe hanigan/wright/uru as 6 replacements.
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